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midwifevicki
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FM3 renewal
Thanks for all the interesting discussion. As with so many legalities in Mexico, there never seem to be any clear answers but I ma appyting for
myself and also planning to get the renewal for my husband. I am going to the consulate today and to immigracion in Santa Rosalia on next Monday. I
hope the discussion keeps going because I am learning so much. thanks to all.
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whodat54321
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now I'm really confused.
I'm just going to rent in TJ, and still work in the states. FM2 or FM3?
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Dave
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| Quote: | Originally posted by whodat54321
now I'm really confused.
I'm just going to rent in TJ, and still work in the states. FM2 or FM3?
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You need an FM3 and either a sentri pass or a lot of patience.
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mcgyver
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FM-2
| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
A couple of points:
You now can get an FM2 without the 5 years of an FM3.
It is not necessary to have an FM2 to receive a work permit. FM3 will work just fine. Also, when you recieve the permit it is no longer necessary to
meet the financial requirements necessary for an FM3/2.
Aldo is correct. Once you are a naturalized citizen you can own land in the restricted zone and vote. There IS a tradeoff however. If you get into
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Dave, Please provide us with the # of the Mexican law that provides for an immeidate issue of an FM-2. We printed your post and took it to our local
Delgado to try to avoid the yearly expense of the FM-3 and he just laughed at us, said not only was all still the same but that fees where going up
again.
Thanks
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Bob and Susan
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Mcgyver
Welcome back from the "dark side"
I know you posted this before but...can you post the rules again and clear up the confusion?
Thanks
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Dave
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mcgyver
Dave, Please provide us with the # of the Mexican law that provides for an immeidate issue of an FM-2. We printed your post and took it to our local
Delgado to try to avoid the yearly expense of the FM-3 and he just laughed at us, said not only was all still the same but that fees where going up
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Local migra officials have always used broad flexibility in application of la ley. Some delgados even go beyond the law.
Some examples:
I have heard that in some areas you must check in and out of Mexico when holding an (non-immigrant) FM3. Total BS.
In my area, (Rosarito) migra has never enforced the monthly income requirement. A bank account containing a minimum one months income is all that is
required.
Here are the requirements for a inmigrante rentista or FM2:
http://www.inami.gob.mx/paginas/leyes/manualtramitesmigrator...
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bajalou
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Thanks Dave for the link - now if I canget it translated.
San Felipe has only required the money in the bank, no monthly requirement. Suppose all the Baja Cal offices under Mexicali are similar.
Ont thing I have learned - the person doing the work has the final say, wether it's regarding imigration or customs. No mater what you have read in
the laws or advice and paperwork given by a consulate, the guy at the border is God and does it his way.
No Bad Days
\"Never argue with an idiot. People watching may not be able to tell the difference\"
\"The trouble with doing nothing is - how do I know when I\'m done?\"
Nomad Baja Interactive map
And in the San Felipe area - check out Valle Chico area |
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LaRibereņa
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Mexican law
A good source for Mexican law is www.ajijiclaw.com. No mention is made, however, of ownership by naturalized citizens. Maybe you could email them.
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bajalou
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Elizabeth - wonderful informative website thank you, thank you, thank you
No Bad Days
\"Never argue with an idiot. People watching may not be able to tell the difference\"
\"The trouble with doing nothing is - how do I know when I\'m done?\"
Nomad Baja Interactive map
And in the San Felipe area - check out Valle Chico area |
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Dave
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajalou
Thanks Dave for the link - now if I canget it translated.
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Once you do you will find that an FM3 is not one of the requirements. Fact is, I searched the whole site and there was no linkage between an FM3/2. I
know of folks who have started with an FM2.
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the guy at the border is God and does it his way.
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Unless you can PROVE that his way is not the correct way.
A couple of years ago there was a $250 allowance by aduana for residents of the frontera. The folks at the border insisted that I was only allowed $50
until I provided a copy of the ruling.
Sometimes it PAYS to know the law.
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bajalou
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Thanks Dave
I'm over 1/2 way thru the FM2 process right now so this is information for everyone. I allways want to know what the law says. Might not always
follow it but I do want to know it.
I've had one Customs who told me that he didn't care what that paper said (their publication regarding how much you could bring in which I showed him)
HE would decide what I could bring.
I never really have any problems.
I'll always remember The perfect country & western song.
No Bad Days
\"Never argue with an idiot. People watching may not be able to tell the difference\"
\"The trouble with doing nothing is - how do I know when I\'m done?\"
Nomad Baja Interactive map
And in the San Felipe area - check out Valle Chico area |
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midwifevicki
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Just a quick update. I went to the consulate in San Diego, which by the way closes at 1:00 pm (yes, 1:00 pm)
You can apply for the FM3 "resident" visa at the consulate, but if you want to have an FM3 to work or conduct business in Mexico "FM3 lucrativa", it
must be applied for and renewed in the district where you are planning to work. renewals in Santa rosalia can only be done in the 30 days before it
expires. We were there to renew on July 1oth and could not do so because the visa expired 8/30 and it was more than 30 days. Because we are building
houses in Punta Chivato/Shell Beach, we must do all our paper work through Santa Rosalia. There is a website with the information for FM 3 resident
visas. The passport photos are to be Mexican size 4cm x 4cm or 1.5 inches x 1.5 inches. Thanks again for all the input.
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bajalou
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Make sure you have the FM3 stamped out "Salida" when you leave Mex. That gives you 15 days after returning to Mex to start the renewal if you are
late getting back. Has saved me a bundle of late charges. Mine expires in Sept - about the time I like to visit up north.
No Bad Days
\"Never argue with an idiot. People watching may not be able to tell the difference\"
\"The trouble with doing nothing is - how do I know when I\'m done?\"
Nomad Baja Interactive map
And in the San Felipe area - check out Valle Chico area |
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Germanicus
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I found a website which might bring some light into this dark.
baja-web.com
then go to
hope it helps to clear the confusion
Germanicus
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