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halcyondays
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Trailer palapa building costs?
My wife and I are getting a little discouraged by the apparent costs of building an extremely humble living space while we save to build our real
house.
It seems even a small studio will run us about $40,000 and that seems very high considering we will never use it when we build the actual house.
Does anyone have experience having a trailer palapa with a small deck built in the Todos Santos area?
How much did it cost?
We are thinking it may be a lot cheaper to build a trailer palapa and buy a trailer down there.
Thanks!
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tiotomasbcs
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How much will do you think the Main house will cost?! You seem to be fishing from a distance, Come on down and plant a trailer on your property.
Then check out the real costs! Not prices from 10 years ago. Just being realistic. Sorry. :? Tio
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mcfez
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| Quote: | Originally posted by halcyondays
My wife and I are getting a little discouraged by the apparent costs of building an extremely humble living space while we save to build our real
house.
It seems even a small studio will run us about $40,000 and that seems very high considering we will never use it when we build the actual house.
Does anyone have experience having a trailer palapa with a small deck built in the Todos Santos area?
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40 freaking what? That's out of mind dude! I advise you to do your home work on your area's labor and cost. You can do the hiring on your own, easy to
follow Mex labor laws. Sounds like you have a so called contractor working this deal. Bla!
trailer palapa with a small deck...in San Felipe.....$8000 tops and thats being generous. I have properties in SF with improvements done. You really
need to shop around and ask a million questions with :::your neighbors::: to get things done at the right cost and the right labor.
[Edited on 12-8-2010 by mcfez]
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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halcyondays
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Hey McFez.
Exactly my point.........I think it is outrageous.
I am shopping from afar.
Yes I will come down there.
But I have to have a place to stay when I am 'shopping around' and getting to know the drill.
I am a commercial fisherman.
I bought a boat-----with no experience----and took it out on the water to fish.
I am brave.....but I did my homework....and it has paid off.
In Baja I also need to just 'put the boat in the water' so to speak.
BUt without a trailer or a studio on my property I have to resort to a lot of BS to be there and manage the situation.
SO......I am trying to figure out.......trailer or build a small studio??.....what is the best way to GET THERE and then start working with the people
there to figure out the rest?
I was told I could build a 40 sq meter garage/studio with a shower/bathroom for under 15.000 usd.....obviously wrong?
So now I am thinking a trailer and a palapa.
We will spend 3 months there in winter of 2011 and then 6 months a year there after we have a sufficient living space.............trailer or studio.
Basically we need a shower and bathroom with a sink outside.........kitchen can wait .
We are good with a barbeque for 6 months no worries.
Just need a sink outside to clean a couple of dishes and filet out the fish I catch.
Just looking for some advice.
Thanks man!
Hope that makes sense.
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halcyondays
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Or...........in everyone's opinion.........should I just take the 200,000 equity line I have on my US house and throw it all down on
red...........build the baja home?
We know we love it.
But is that throwing all eggs in one basket?
I sorta think so.
So I was thinking to get us there for a few months a year to get to know people and then go from there.
Slow and steady-------so it lasts our entire lives.
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[Edited on 12-8-2010 by halcyondays]
[Edited on 12-8-2010 by halcyondays]
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bajaguy
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Rent a place while you get things put together. Get to know people and the area, look around, stay flexible....remember, you are in Mexico now.
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monoloco
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| Quote: | Originally posted by tiotomasbcs
How much will do you think the Main house will cost?! You seem to be fishing from a distance, Come on down and plant a trailer on your property.
Then check out the real costs! Not prices from 10 years ago. Just being realistic. Sorry. :? Tio |
Good advice. Before you get all discouraged, come on down, draw some plans and put them out for bid with qualified people. 40k
sounds high to me, We just built an awesome house for around 100k including the land, septic, pila, solar system, fixtures, etc..
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mcfez
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Well.....dont rip all your $200,000! Take a little money out from your home. Retain your home in case The Baja Dream becomes The Toilet
Nightmare.....you'll have a place still to go back to and regroup. Rent the home out while chasing dreams. property management companies out there
will handle it all for you.
Our first "house" was a tin box on wheels. I paid $800 bucks for this late 1950's oven on wheels :-) And it worked out just perfect. I secured it on
our chosen Baja home site, built a bamboo fence around it so that my neighbors wouldn't have to look at the "white trailer trash" home for several
years while I was having the house built. That trailer is still at our Campos....my Aussie buddy Burt BEGGED for it. You'll see it once in a while in
Puertocitos.
Enclose is a early picture of our house being built. I designed a large one room with an interior bathroom. Good shower too! Air conditioner wall
mounted, outdoor kitchen, good power, septic, and at the time a needed pila. Did it for LESS that $19000.00 plus cost of lease. Landscaping is intense
now...I did that. Value of that is $15,000 but you can do it yourself as I did for cost ($3000.00) House was built by Salvador Jr
Ask questions
Compare bid prices and look at their work
Use good material, not cheap crapola
YOU yourself pay the Mexican worker(s) required fees
Be there during construction (a freakin must)
"...........I am a commercial fisherman".
I'm just a dummy with things at times. Are you sure that you can do this? Check your Mexican laws...they are a little tight against outsiders taking
jobs away.
[Edited on 12-8-2010 by mcfez]
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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DENNIS
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Can you imagine how cool a 200 thousand dollar motor home would be? Or, just 100 K.
Think ahead while you still hold the reins. Baja isn't for everybody.
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mcfez
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And leases aint for everyone else too!
I'll take that motor home with the hot tub....
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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comitan
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I'm curious as to where you are going to launch a boat to fish in Todo Santos?
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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Skeet/Loreto
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Oh! all these People who make so many Mistatke.
Why is it that People go to Baja and think that they can Live and Act as they did in the States..??
What Dummies!!
First off Dummy learn some Spanish!
2nd Buy a Cheap Trailer, have a Palapa built and spend a Couple of years learning How to get along in Baja.
Then after careful consideration decide to build or not to build.
These "Blame Generation" youngsters are really Weak Minded. Think about the future, Plan and then Go for It if you have the Balls!!
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halcyondays
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Just to clarify---I have NO intention of commercially fishing in Mexico.
I do that up in Oregon 5 months of the year.
It's a 18 hour, 7 day a week job, for that 5 months.
And it affords us time off to spend time in Baja.
Thanks for all the advice.
I realize we need to be there.
Just trying to get everyone's advice as to not be a 'dummy' about it.
Its starting to seem as though it may be smartest to build a garage and house our truck in it.
Then we can use the garage as living space when we are there.
Building can be years away.....we just want to have a vehicle, a roof, and a shower, while we get acclimated.
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Skeet/Loreto
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Hey! Be Careful if yu are a commercial Fisherman! There are some real Nuts on this Board that will tell you that the "Sea of Cortez is Ruined" Don"t
belive a word they say. They are as full of Bull Puckey as a Xmas Turkey"!!
You can get a Palapa built by some local Mesicanos fairly reasonable, just ask around. Then after aa couple of times down there you can decide if you
want a Home.
Then check out the property and the Owner before buying./leasing.
Sure wish you were a Sturgeon Fisherman, I have to Pay $9.00 a Can for good Smoked Sturgeon from the Columbia River.
Good Luch
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monoloco
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| Quote: | Originally posted by comitan
I'm curious as to where you are going to launch a boat to fish in Todo Santos? |
Hey, we launch boats at Los
Cerritos, it's great fishing.
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comitan
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You have a lot more Macho than I, someone over there maybe you awhile ago dumped their boat in the surf.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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monoloco
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| Quote: | Originally posted by comitan
You have a lot more Macho than I, someone over there maybe you awhile ago dumped their boat in the surf. |
I
have seen at least 10 people dump boats there over the years, usually operator error or mechanical failure, but most of the guys who have been around
here for a while have it figured out.
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Russ
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Here's a drawing That may give you some ideas
Bahia Concepcion where life starts...given a chance!
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Ricardo
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I would suggest you rent for a couple months and maybe hire trades people from La Paz or local but compare prices. Be your own general contractor if
possible. Hire a translator if necessary. unless someone here can recommend a honest general contractor.
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Gaucho
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Russ
Here's a drawing That may give you some ideas |
Russ, what do you think it would cost you to build this where you are?
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