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fishabductor
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settled and finished
That's right Fishabductor got turned into immigration, by a Nomad. Not to worry though I am fully (100%) legit, pay all taxes, IVA, have RFC's the
whole works. The immigration officer threw out the case in about 10 minutes.
What was interesting in the whole deal was that somehow the Nomad was able to get the immigration officer to trick my brother in law into signing a
document made out by said Nomad, that states that I hire no mexicans (I have 4 on the record), pay no mexican taxes(I have all the records proving
otherwise), that I do all the work myself(on my residence)..etc. The fact that my brother in law signed a document to that effect infuriated me, so on
my return to my home, where my brother-in-law works as the caretaker on the property where I reside/manage. I asked him flat out why the hell would he
make a statement to that effect against me. You should have seen the look on his face, upon finding out he had been dupped. The next morning
bro-in-law went to immigration, found the agent and chewed his ass, denied the document, where upon the agent told my bro-in-law the document was made
by said nomad.
I am a 38 year old with a mexican wife and a 1y/o mexican son who is the sole bread earner. When I returned home from a fishing trip, I found her
bawling in the house worried that I was going to get deported/thrown in jail.
I pay for all my wife's and sons expenses, and this greedy gringo up who owns a subdivision on the eastcape, is trying to get me deported, as well as
take away the means for which I support my family.
In the past 2 months, I have been turned into Profepa, Semanac, Immigration and the subdelgado. The military also showed up at my house and searched
for drugs for 1hr using a electric sniffer and 40 armed soldiers, is this just a coincidence or did I get turned into the military too...I now have to
ask myself.
If you want to understand why fishabductor is a little angry and frustrated in baja it stems from my experiences living next to these people, and the
fact that I got robbed last yr of virtually everything.
So how would you all handle this, I am not sure I really want to broadcast his name over the internet as this guy plays dirty as is obvious by the
route he has taken, while acting like he was "Playing Nice". He even gave my son an Xmas present after he reported me to immigration...which we
returned upon finding out he turned us in.
Who else has had similar experiences?
[Edited on 3-24-2011 by fishabductor]
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comitan
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Welcome to Gringolandia Mexico, it happens and it costs if you are not legal.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fishabductor
That's right Fishabductor got turned into immigration, by a Nomad. Not to worry though I am fully (100%) legit, pay all taxes, IVA, have RFC's the
whole works. The immigration officer threw out the case in about 10 minutes.
What was interesting in the whole deal was that somehow the Nomad was able to get the immigration officer to trick my brother in law into signing a
document made out by said Nomad, that states that I hire no mexicans (I have 4 on the record), pay no mexican taxes(I have all the records proving
otherwise), that I do all the work myself(on my residence)..etc. The fact that my brother in law signed a document to that effect infuriated me, so on
my return to my home, where my brother-in-law works as the caretaker on the property where I reside/manage. I asked him flat out why the hell would he
make a statement to that effect against me. You should have seen the look on his face, upon finding out he had been dupped. The next morning
bro-in-law went to immigration, found the agent and chewed his burro, denied the document, where upon the agent told my bro-in-law the document was
made by said nomad.
I am a 38 year old with a mexican wife and a 1y/o mexican son who is the sole bread earner. When I returned home from a fishing trip, I found her
bawling in the house worried that I was going to get deported/thrown in jail.
I pay for all my wife's and sons expenses, and this greedy gringo up who owns a subdivision on the eastcape, is trying to get me deported, as well as
take away the means for which I support my family.
In the past 2 months, I have been turned into Profepa, Semanac, Immigration and the subdelgado. The military also showed up at my house and searched
for drugs for 1hr using a electric sniffer and 40 armed soldiers, is this just a coincidence or did I get turned into the military too...I now have to
ask myself.
If you want to understand why fishabductor is a little angry and frustrated in baja it stems from my experiences living next to these people, and the
fact that I got robbed last yr of virtually everything.
So how would you all handle this, I am not sure I really want to broadcast his name over the internet as this guy plays dirty as is obvious by the
route he has taken, while acting like he was "Playing Nice". He even gave my son an Xmas present after he reported me to immigration...which we
returned upon finding out he turned us in.
Who else has had similar experiences? |
sounds like a certain nomad needs to be tarred and feathered. do not remain silent in the face of bullying. shout his/her name for all the world to
hear.
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fishabductor
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
| Quote: | Originally posted by fishabductor
That's right Fishabductor got turned into immigration, by a Nomad. Not to worry though I am fully (100%) legit, pay all taxes, IVA, have RFC's the
whole works. The immigration officer threw out the case in about 10 minutes.
What was interesting in the whole deal was that somehow the Nomad was able to get the immigration officer to trick my brother in law into signing a
document made out by said Nomad, that states that I hire no mexicans (I have 4 on the record), pay no mexican taxes(I have all the records proving
otherwise), that I do all the work myself(on my residence)..etc. The fact that my brother in law signed a document to that effect infuriated me, so on
my return to my home, where my brother-in-law works as the caretaker on the property where I reside/manage. I asked him flat out why the hell would he
make a statement to that effect against me. You should have seen the look on his face, upon finding out he had been dupped. The next morning
bro-in-law went to immigration, found the agent and chewed his burro, denied the document, where upon the agent told my bro-in-law the document was
made by said nomad.
I am a 38 year old with a mexican wife and a 1y/o mexican son who is the sole bread earner. When I returned home from a fishing trip, I found her
bawling in the house worried that I was going to get deported/thrown in jail.
I pay for all my wife's and sons expenses, and this greedy gringo up who owns a subdivision on the eastcape, is trying to get me deported, as well as
take away the means for which I support my family.
In the past 2 months, I have been turned into Profepa, Semanac, Immigration and the subdelgado. The military also showed up at my house and searched
for drugs for 1hr using a electric sniffer and 40 armed soldiers, is this just a coincidence or did I get turned into the military too...I now have to
ask myself.
If you want to understand why fishabductor is a little angry and frustrated in baja it stems from my experiences living next to these people, and the
fact that I got robbed last yr of virtually everything.
So how would you all handle this, I am not sure I really want to broadcast his name over the internet as this guy plays dirty as is obvious by the
route he has taken, while acting like he was "Playing Nice". He even gave my son an Xmas present after he reported me to immigration...which we
returned upon finding out he turned us in.
Who else has had similar experiences? |
sounds like a certain nomad needs to be tarred and feathered. do not remain silent in the face of bullying. shout his/her name for all the world to
hear. |
I want to see where this goes as far as what majority thinks I should do. It is a bully issue for sure, however the bully has more connections than me
and has Mexican status.
[Edited on 3-23-2011 by fishabductor]
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Eugenio
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Sounds like (another) reason to protect your anonymity - especially on this board.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fishabductor
| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
| Quote: | Originally posted by fishabductor
etc |
sounds like a certain nomad needs to be tarred and feathered. do not remain silent in the face of bullying. shout his/her name for all the world to
hear. |
You wouldn't be the first, to have those sort of thoughts, many out here on the eastcape have been screwed by this guy including my family who he
built a faulty house for and turned his back on.
I want to see where this goes as far as what majority thinks I should do. It is a bully issue for sure, however the bully has more connections than me
and has Mexican status. |
i think you can hire a hit pretty cheap in mexico. a tweaker would probably do it for $100.
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fishabductor
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
| Quote: | Originally posted by fishabductor
| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
| Quote: | Originally posted by fishabductor
etc |
sounds like a certain nomad needs to be tarred and feathered. do not remain silent in the face of bullying. shout his/her name for all the world to
hear. |
You wouldn't be the first, to have those sort of thoughts, many out here on the eastcape have been screwed by this guy including my family who he
built a faulty house for and turned his back on.
I want to see where this goes as far as what majority thinks I should do. It is a bully issue for sure, however the bully has more connections than me
and has Mexican status. |
i think you can hire a hit pretty cheap in mexico. a tweaker would probably do it for $100. |
Exactly the reason I am holding out on his name for now, I don't want to get "wacked". My family needs me.
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Eugenio
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(actually I was thinking of YOU when I mentioned the anonymity thing - I already had an "experience" from a nomad years ago - but not quite like yours
)
Sounds like your dealing with it well.
[Edited on 3-22-2011 by Eugenio]
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drarroyo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fishabductor
| Quote: | Originally posted by Eugenio
Sounds like (another) reason to protect your anonymity - especially on this board. |
He goes by his real name on this board! |
Do you know if this is his normal M.O. (?) wink wink
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fishabductor
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Eugenio
(actually I was thinking of YOU when I mentioned the anonymity thing - I already had an "experience" from a nomad years ago - but not quite like yours
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Sounds like your dealing with it well.
[Edited on 3-22-2011 by Eugenio] |
The issue doesn't have anything to do with this board.
I am dealing with it well, as it happened about a month and a half ago. I took off to the states and thought about it the whole time and how to
approach it. I finally decided to ask the nomads for advice on this, and to go public.
[Edited on 3-23-2011 by fishabductor]
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fishabductor
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| Quote: | Originally posted by drarroyo
| Quote: | Originally posted by fishabductor
| Quote: | Originally posted by Eugenio
Sounds like (another) reason to protect your anonymity - especially on this board. |
He goes by his real name on this board! |
Do you know if this is his normal M.O. (?) wink wink |
I haven't heard of him turning anyone else out here, but that doesn't it mean it hasn't happened.
[Edited on 3-23-2011 by fishabductor]
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Debra
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I say out the guy, that is horrible! The rest of us would like to know who to watch our back from. But you are right, you have to protect your
family. What a jerk!  Maybe a U2?
[Edited on 3-22-2011 by Debra]
Mean people suck!
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mcfez
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......"this greedy gringo up who owns a subdivision on the eastcape
So you owe him money or did something negative? He sure is going thru a lot of trouble getting at you....must be something there. What's the whole
story?
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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fishabductor
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mcfez
......"this greedy gringo up who owns a subdivision on the eastcape
So you owe him money or did something negative? He sure is going thru a lot of trouble getting at you....must be something there. What's the whole
story? |
Full story.... is long.
The recent development was that I manage/live on 70 acres that is in on the beach in front of his development. On this property, there is an arroyo
that has been used as access to the beach for many...
long story short we have had a lot of robberies/burgleries out here and as such the owner of the land decided to install rocks in the arroyo to block
car access, but allow atv's and foot traffic. Our legal representive told me it was all right to place rocks in the arroyo do to limit traffic, I did
and within 30min I heard from the guy, and he warned me that i would get in trouble for what I did. I immediately pulled the rocks are reopened
access.
a month later we had "squatters" come and take the land immediately to the north of us, which is none of our concern as it is not our land, the
problem was they decided to punch access across my clients property. They responded by fencing the property on the north side and they were supposed
to only go to the edge of the arroyo, and not across it. Long story short the hefe broke his thumb the day before and the following day they sent out
the fencing crew minus a hefe, and they fenced across the arroyo. The subdelgado was notified and he told the workers to take teh fence down they did
immediately, but it was after a buddy ran into it with a quad, not causing any injury, except to the fence.
I told my client that I wanted no part of the fencing as I was sure it was going to cause problems with the squatters, who are unknowns. So the legal
rep. hired a fencing crew to install the fence. I didn't even know the arroyo had been fenced until the following day, when I found out my buddy ran
into it.
The turning into immigration stemmed from this, something I took no part of. I have no issues on him turning me into immigration for the fencing if he
believed I did it. The issue I have is the document that the agent had my bro-in-law sign.
[Edited on 3-23-2011 by fishabductor]
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Russ
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Any advice you receive here probably wouldn't help a whole lot since he's a Nomad and will probably read this all with a huge smile knowing how
miserable he's made you. These type of people are never satisfied and you can expect more of the same from him. Be careful of the slander thing
because that is serious. I suggest that all serious ideas for helping fishabductor be sent by U2U.
Bahia Concepcion where life starts...given a chance!
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fishabductor
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I guess what I am looking for is some ideas of how to stop the harrassment. I also want everyone to understand why I have been so aggitated on nomads.
I also want my side of teh story publically known, i know everyone who lives on the eastcape dirtroad, have probably already heard of this and know
who both parties involved are.
I don't want to play dirty, but I do want to stop being harrassed so I can get back to loving and living baja with my family. As it is now I am
parenoid of who is going to come next. I am sure that I am the most legal guy on the eastcape, because of this. I claim 100% of what I make and make
sure all I are dotted, T's crossed.
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fishabductor
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Russ
Be careful of the slander thing because that is serious. |
This is the reason that I am withholding his name and will continue to.
I am just looking for some support and ideas as to how best stop the harrassment.
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Russ
Any advice you receive here probably wouldn't help a whole lot since he's a Nomad and will probably read this all with a huge smile knowing how
miserable he's made you. These type of people are never satisfied and you can expect more of the same from him. Be careful of the slander thing
because that is serious. I suggest that all serious ideas for helping fishabductor be sent by U2U. |
Def true. But FishAbductor knew that going into this thread. It seems most times people get this ticked off, it is over land issues. If the Mex
gov't would just get it's act together regarding beach rights- none of this would get this far. When people know the law won't be enforced- nothing
good happens and it bring out the worst of the worst in people.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fishabductor
that I do all the work myself(on my residence).. |
Nothing wrong with that.
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fishabductor
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by fishabductor
that I do all the work myself(on my residence).. |
Nothing wrong with that. |
The immigration agent had no issues with it either.
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