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[*] posted on 3-22-2018 at 02:09 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Cancamo  
Was just quoted 3000 pesos per square meter, labor only, obra negra, (rough construction, no finishes or windows, doors, electrical, plumbing) two story block construction. I'd a bit more than double that to include materials and if you are able and willing do the rest yourself or sub it out.
People pay way too much to involve an "architect", whom generally doubles the overall cost. Open an account at building supply, have deliveries included, pay the social security and permit yourself. Using this method you can build, (using humble finishes), for $50/$60/ square foot.

What part of Baja were you quoted this price...just curious.
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[*] posted on 3-23-2018 at 07:10 AM


I got multiple bids on a 2 story addition that is approximately 10 feet by 12 ft, solid roof, no plumbing, no tile, and we will paint it....bids ran from $17,000 to $23,000...so $40,000 might be ballpark
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[*] posted on 3-23-2018 at 07:32 AM


These kind if costs make Udo's place a no brainer bargain...



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[*] posted on 3-23-2018 at 11:57 AM


No doubt. Wish I had the pesos. That place would make an awesome Campo Fishbuck Sur.




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[*] posted on 3-23-2018 at 01:03 PM


Sometimes ya gotta make tough choices....Super tricked out 1 ton Ford, Airplane, Sea Kayaks, Fat tired beach cruiser, all the SOTA electronics....100/month house...life is hard, man...



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[*] posted on 3-23-2018 at 01:15 PM


Does the phrase " all over the map" ring a bell ????
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[*] posted on 3-23-2018 at 02:39 PM


DING/DONG!



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[*] posted on 3-24-2018 at 01:18 PM


Quote: Originally posted by chuckie  
Sometimes ya gotta make tough choices....Super tricked out 1 ton Ford, Airplane, Sea Kayaks, Fat tired beach cruiser, all the SOTA electronics....100/month house...life is hard, man...

Soo true.




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[*] posted on 3-24-2018 at 01:21 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Paco Facullo  
Does the phrase " all over the map" ring a bell ????

Did you check with DavidK about this? He is the map expert here.

But yes that is my exact plan. To be " all over the map" of Baja.





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[*] posted on 3-24-2018 at 01:31 PM


This keeps getting weirder....WHY THEN, do you keep going on about buying/building a shack?



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[*] posted on 3-24-2018 at 01:45 PM


Quote: Originally posted by fishbuck  
Quote: Originally posted by Paco Facullo  
Does the phrase " all over the map" ring a bell ????

Did you check with DavidK about this? He is the map expert here.

But yes that is my exact plan. To be " all over the map" of Baja.



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[*] posted on 3-24-2018 at 01:56 PM


I thought you said you reread all my stuff in my other thread.

San Quintin is my home/basecamp. I bought lots their 15 years ago. My crazy Baja dream is now going into the reality phase as I retire from a 40 year career as an Aircraft Mechanic/Inspector for the Boeing company, McDonnel Douglas, Rockwell International, North American Aircraft, Northrup Grumman and the United States Air Force.
I have a private runway, a private boat ramp with Pacific Ocean access. I have a big a$$ truck. I had a cool boat but it got stolen. I'll get another, better one soon. I'm saving my pennies for a Piper 140 for flying around.
San Quintin is also the perfect place for driving south.
The fishing in San Quintin is as good and in some cases better than anyplace in Baja.
The weather in Summer is San Diego plus. Very temporate year round.
So, I will rent a small house in town for $100/month and start my Casita.
I should still have time and money to get "all over the map".
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[*] posted on 3-24-2018 at 01:58 PM


Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by fishbuck  
Quote: Originally posted by Paco Facullo  
Does the phrase " all over the map" ring a bell ????

Did you check with DavidK about this? He is the map expert here.

But yes that is my exact plan. To be " all over the map" of Baja.



I already told you what to do: don’t build a shack — buy An rv or trailer, stay mobile


I'm doing that too.




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[*] posted on 3-26-2018 at 01:42 PM



What part of Baja were you quoted this price...just curious.


BCS, these guys were Pacenos.
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[*] posted on 3-26-2018 at 02:00 PM


The obvious question is " do construction costs vary by Baja region?"
The obvious answer is yes.
My guess. Cheaper to north. More expensive to south.
Anybody know if this is true?
So standard estimate with current anecdotal information is US$50-60/sqft.
I believe that is with rough finish.
Fine finish is always more.
I'm planning to finish my casita in "fishcamp bachelor" style.
That's 1 notch above "jail cell".
I'll replace stainless bathroom fixtures with porceline. And a real bed instead of a "rack".
That's all I need to live large.

And maybe sprice it up over time.



[Edited on 3-26-2018 by fishbuck]




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[*] posted on 3-26-2018 at 02:34 PM


volcano]I got multiple bids on a 2 story addition that is approximately 10 feet by 12 ft, solid roof, no plumbing, no tile, and we will paint it....bids ran from $17,000 to $23,000...so $40,000 might be ballpark

Obra nega, mano de obra ,14 sq. mtrs. x 2 stories = 28 sq. mtrs. x 3000 pesos =84,000 pesos, divided by 18.5 =$4540. Double that for materials = $9081, plus 10%, $10,000 is more like it. Ouch.


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[*] posted on 3-26-2018 at 02:50 PM


Saldo semanal, weekly salary; Monday through Saturday 10 hour days, half day Saturday is normal;
Maestro/ Journeyman, lead albanil, reads plans, orders materials,
runs the job and works......3000 to 3500 pesos a week
Albanil/ Skilled mason, lays block, builds forms, ties steel...2500-3000 week.
Peon/ Laborer, mixes cement, hauls materials, runs a shovel, pick, ties steel....1800-2200 a week.
One maestro, 2/3 albaniles, 1/2 peons, crew of four to six on a normal 2,3 bdrm 1,2 bath house
Construction labor in this country is super reasonable and nowhere near the costs of NOB.
Materials are always rising in cost, wages aren't. Sound familiar?
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[*] posted on 3-26-2018 at 02:56 PM


Ok. You "tower of babeled" me here.
So my belief is that the current average rough finish cost is $(US)50-60/SQUARE FOOT.

If you speak in "Peso" and "metric" it is the standard problem.

Can we please establish 1 system of measurement for discussion purposes.

I understand feet and dollars.

But I can convert to metric and pesos if necessary.
I guess we can do both.

Current echange rate= 1 USD = 18.329401 MXN
Mar 26, 2018 21:46 UTC

1 Square Foot = 0.093 Square Meter

1 Square Meter = 10.764 Square Feet

Can somebody do the math for me.
I'm retired;)










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[*] posted on 3-27-2018 at 06:37 AM


It was explained to me ..that small size in a very remote location was bid higher per sq meter than a large build in same location because of the difficulty and extra costs of getting materails and equipment way out there. So yes, location and size do make a difference. For instance, a large build in an easy location would be bid at a lower price per sq m.
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[*] posted on 3-28-2018 at 11:40 AM


That makes sence. It costs as much to carry 1 block in your truck as it does a full load.
Fixed price.
Fuel=$20 x 1 block=$20 per block.
Fuel=$20 x 100 blocks=.20c per block




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