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woody with a view
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i sent an email.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
Withholding treatment for MORE cash? I'm biting my tongue hard. |
What? Are you surprised? It's a private hospital and they work for profit. His broken jaw won't affect his life....or death.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Chrissie_Hoff
Shari gracias por el comentario, mi papa esta estable el esta riendo con Laura. Lo que creemos es mejor seria que saldemos la cuenta con el sanatorio
Del Carmen y lo operen en el hospital general, Cristina ya esta bien y recibio un bano y esta bien lucida she is fine.
Cada dia que pasa mi papa en el hospital es mas dinero y creo que ahora es la situacion catastrofica que mi papa hablaba cuando dijo que el tenia el
seguro popular. |
Speak English here. We're all involved.
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Neal Johns
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Carol (owner) of Discover Baja has just talked to Chrissie Hoff and is wiring $5,000 dollars down to get things started within the half hour. Nice
Lady.
My motto:
Never let a Dragon pass by without pulling its tail!
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
Withholding treatment for MORE cash? I'm biting my tongue hard. |
My Wife Leidys says that in Colombia, it is the same policy for expensive operations.
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KASHEYDOG
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaBlanca
I can't believe it - but I asked a friend and this is in fact customary - pay first is the rule here in Mexico....that being said, I have drafted a
note to the governor that all of you can send to his email...My Mexican friends say that this will put pressure on the governor to do the right
thing...
email address: gestoriasgobbc@gmail.com
ESTIMADO LIC. JOSE GUADALUPE OSUNA MILLAN
GOBERNADOR CONSTITUCIONAL DEL ESTADO DE BAJA CALIFORNIA
POR MEDIO DE LA PRESENTE, NOS PERMITIMOS HACER DE SU CONOCIMIENTO LO SUCEDIDO EL DIA SABADO 10 DEL MES DE SEPTIEMBRE, EN EL POBLADO DE SAN
QUINTIN, B.C. FUERON ATACADOS POR LADRONES ES SEÑOR AMERICANO RONALD HOFF Y SU ESPOSA CRISTINA MONTES. EL SR. HOFF SE ENCUENTRA ACTUALMENTE EN ESTADO
GRAVE EN EL SANATORIO DEL CARMEN EN LA CIUDAD DE ENSENADA, B.C., POR LO CUAL SOLICITO SU INTERVENCION PARA ESTAR SEGUROS QUE RECIBA UNA ATENCION
MEDICA DE PRIMER NIVEL.
EN ESPERA DE UNA FAVORABLE RESPUESTA ME DESPIDO DE USTED.
*****PUT YOUR NAME HERE*******
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Thanks Blanca.... ....DONE. Easy to do. Everybody needs to do it to get some
attention. Do it NOW, people
Don\'t mess with the old dog...... Age and skill will always overcome youth and treachery! Brilliance only comes with age and
experience.....  ....  ....
Are you getting the most out of life OR is life getting the most out of you ?? 
Twenty years from now you\'ll be more disappointed by the things you didn\'t do then the things you did.
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DENNIS
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OK....so now that Ron's all recuperrated and eating burgers, perhaps we can discuss getting him out of the money mill.
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Neal Johns
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Right on, Dennis.
Machine Translated:
Originally posted by Chrissie_Hoff
Shari thanks for the comment, my father is stable he is laughing with Laura. What we believe is best if the account balances sanatorium Del Carmen and
operating in the general hospital, Cristina is already well and received a bath and is well lucida she is fine.
Each day that passes my dad in the hospital is more money and I think now is the catastrophic situation that my father spoke when he said the people
had insurance.
My motto:
Never let a Dragon pass by without pulling its tail!
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shari
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gracias chrissie...si quieres comunicar conmigo talvez seria mejor por U2U...eres mas facil entender en espanol....voy intentar hablarte para aclarar
las cosas.mandame tu # tel por U2U porfa.
Dennis, things are stated more clearly by chrissie in spanish...at least I understand her better in spanish so bear with us...she's new at this but
there is no rule that one must speak english.
So she says her dad is stable and laughing with Laura and that it would be good to pay the bill at Del Carmen and get over to the General Hospital
where Cristina is fine and got bathed today and is lucid.
She is worried that each day that passes in there is more money and her dad prepared for a catastrofic event with the insurance he has of seguro
popular.
She wanted me to know that Laura has spoken to Ron and is good spirits...or maybe just leave it at spirited....we are all getting a better grip on
what is going on with wife cristina in the loop now albeit still very weak and overwhelmed...she is a very bright, capable, level headed woman and
desicions are being taken by the family as a whole now...hopefully after getting his jaw wired on right, Ron will make his wishes known.
The great great great news is that he is concious and coming back around to the world after a very traumatic ordeal...go ron go...but please try to
take time to heal and not get stressed out. thank goodness angel & her husband are there now to assist in what will happen next.The best case
scenario is for Cristina to be by his side which will be best for both of them.
So to recap... the money is getting to the hospital today...Ron is probably on the table right now so lets all send him a big cadillac margarita to
get through this ordeal...or a prayer!
I'm not sure what the decision is to stay or move him yet...stay tuned
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shari
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chrissie...please take the time to write a personal letter to the govenor in spanish explaining your dilema and ask him to appoyarte...help in some
way.
does anyone know if Ron likes onions on his burger?  maybe Jesse could fedex one
down to Del Carmen and throw in one for the duty nurse too please...actually I can hear Sirenita's stomach growling from here...all hell, send down a
dozen...oh I forgot there are only 3 people there.
yup back to our regular programming
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
back to our regular programming |
Son Paul in Buenos Aires, Argentina knows about the "Car Crash". I explained to him (in Spanish) details about his Father's recuperation. He also
read the on-line on-line news article pertaining to Ron and his wife's assault.
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bajafam
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Has anyone thought to contact the US Consulate? By my understanding, they are there to assist in occasions such as this - to aid in getting medical
assistance, to aid when one is a victim of a crime and unable to pay for things? I.e, legitimate and proven poverty? Is this an avenue that has been
looked into for helping pay the bills to get Ron the surgery? Or is that not an option for any reason? Just thinking out loud, but it occurred to me
while we are driving north that I didn't recall the US Consulate being mentioned in this thread at all.
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woody with a view
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i doubt Ron is destitute....
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jureal
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The consulate was mentioned way back where it was stated that they will not intervene when the person involved has dual citizenship and is in the
country where he has citizenship. Ron took Mexican citizenship a while ago according to the source. They will only intervene if Ron was in the US.
In Mexico, he is a Mexican citizen.
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BajaNomad
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Update... to the best of my knowledge...
- Del Carmen hospital is waiting on having cash-in-hand (at least half of it apparently) before performing surgery on broken jaw.
- Ron will not be going to the General Hospital.
- FDT is en route to Ensenada Western Union to pick up and deliver some donated funds to family.
- Carol Kramer of Discover Baja is sending some donated funds (an amount specifically requested) via Western Union directly to the doctor/hospital at
8pm this evening. The hospital/doctor has indicated with this payment they will operate on Ron at 7am tomorrow morning. Carol said to let you know
she's really overwhelmed by the generosity she's seen.
- Angels4 reports that Ron is off sedation and was getting agitated again early today - partially (or wholly?) because nobody was answering his
questions about Cristina and where she was. Angels4 had Cristina record a voice message to play to Ron that told him to listen to the doctors, and be
calm, etc... and that when they played that recording for Ron, he absolutely became calm, comforted and cooperative after hearing that recorded
message from her.
- There's been some discussion amongst us that it seems the hospital prices "might" be fluctuating somewhat due to a number of reasons, one of which
is the potential for what's posted in this thread. So I request there be NO further indications about what's been/being given/received. There's no
problem in discussing what the hospital's fees requested are though. If you're going to help with donations, let's keep the #'s private, or at-least
offline for now.
- Cristina's doing very well as has been posted previously.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajafam
Has anyone thought to contact the US Consulate? By my understanding, they are there to assist in occasions such as this - to aid in getting medical
assistance, to aid when one is a victim of a crime and unable to pay for things? I.e, legitimate and proven poverty? Is this an avenue that has been
looked into for helping pay the bills to get Ron the surgery? Or is that not an option for any reason? Just thinking out loud, but it occurred to me
while we are driving north that I didn't recall the US Consulate being mentioned in this thread at all. |
Hi Sweetie...... Forget it. They couldn't care less.
Oh ....yeah....it was mentioned around a million pages back.
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bajafam
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Okay, gotcha. Just thought to throw that out there, I wasn't sure about his citizenship status. Thank you for clearing that up. Just trying to think
of alternate ways to get him the help that he needs.
Prays still going out to him and Cristina.
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shari
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umm...change of location on some of those burgers to be delivered...and the other hospital warriors are now at Ensenada General which I hear is rather
uncomfortable...
Ron's will need to be blended and in the form of a smoothy but he will most likely want it tonight seeing as his jaw wont be getting adjusted any time
soon...manana is the prognosis. The surgeon who would have operated has other surgeries to perform over at Ensenada General...he could do the
operation over there but wouldnt be able to get to it for a couple days maybe...so a decision was reached to operate tomorrow there and the doc says
he'll be ready to go in a couple days...or perhaps he will move over to the competition's...
Since today's dilema seems to be money, maybe a fundraising pool is in order to determine when Ron's transfer/release/escape will be...who is up for
designing it, (I need a sunset walk on the beach) it could have bets on the date, time and method of gettin out of out....prolly have to do it via U2U
for legal purposes...hahahaha
Seriously folks...i personally want to thank from the very bottom of my heart all of you who have donated $ to help Ron & Cristina survive this
nightmare...and you who have donated time and effort, sent phone minutes to Sirena, went down to the hospital to visit and try to help, those of you
who sent prayers and energy their way, and all of you who are going to continue to help them out. Please think about fund raising ideas and continue
to donate even a little bit to the paypal account...write letters to the governor and mention you want to see these dirtbags rot in
hell...ooops...sorry...get their just punishment.
any and all suggestions are appreciated and for goodness sake, get those girls some food down there at the Ensenada General..sneak in a new mix for
sirena..she's gonna need it.
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We just finished with the hospital after a race crash. A word to every one....they needed cash up front. Fortunately we had friends in the area
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| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
continue to donate even a little bit to the paypal account... |
Unless I missed it, there's no paypal
account involved at this time.
95% has been via Western Union to Ensenada today. I guesstimate about 5% or less to a Banamex bank account. If anyone needs the bank account info,
send me an email or U2U for more info.
Western Union to Ensenada for Fernando Garcia Obeso (Nomad "FDT").
Thx.
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