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[*] posted on 1-5-2012 at 05:39 PM
Passport Card Info, Please?


Dear Nomads,

After 1.5 or more hours of research, I am giving up and asking you experts:

I have a US Passport and want to obtain a Passport Card, without giving up my passport and without paying expedition fees.

1) If I apply for the card at the Tijuana Consulate (and pay no expedition fee), will I receive it at the time of my appointment or will I need to return to pick it up later? (You might think the web site of the TJ Consulate or US State Dep't. would answer this question, but NO.)

2) If the answer to (1) is that I will have to pick it up later, can I get apply for it in the San Diego area and get the card at that time?

3) If the answer to (2) is "yes," could you tell me where I can do this around San Ysidro or Chula Vista? (I gather that the office closest to the border in San Ysidro is very slow, so another choice would be preferred.)

Thanks in advance.
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[*] posted on 1-5-2012 at 06:11 PM


good question. I too wanted the card without giving up my book. ended up costing me 70 bucks at the post office. gotta be a better way!
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[*] posted on 1-5-2012 at 06:45 PM


Hello, Nicole !!! Where have you been ?? Hope you had a nice holiday season. Check out this link to a previous Nomad thread about the Passport card and the ready lane. I just sent off for mine and got it all back in 11 days. The appilcation has to go to the National Passport center. So there's no instant card on the spot. You really need to get the Sentri pass. I now have both "just in case" ....:yes: Call me if you have any questions.

http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=56982#pid6798...

http://apps.cbp.gov/bwt/


[Edited on 1-6-12 by KASHEYDOG]




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[*] posted on 1-5-2012 at 06:48 PM


Did mine in Imperial Beach. 10 day turnaround. $50 is what I think I paid. Had to make appointment. Filled out same form that I filled out for my passport book. Love bureaucrats.

Imperial Beach Post Office/1 mile west on Palm Ave
946 Donax Avenue Imperial Beach, CA 91932
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[*] posted on 1-5-2012 at 06:57 PM


The fee is $30. I sent it in express mail for another $18... Cheap to not have to sit in that line for the next 5 years or however long your passport is good for.......I piinted it out on the computer and filled it out and mailed it in....EASY....No appointment necessary...

BTW the wait at this hour in the Ready Lane is shorter then Sentri. Seems to be working so far...
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[Edited on 1-6-12 by KASHEYDOG]




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[*] posted on 1-5-2012 at 07:09 PM


A couple of years ago I went to the consulate in TJ to get a passport card. I was prepared to surrender my passport as the turnaround was only three working days. As it turns out they simply copied the info and let me keep the passport. Cost was 25 dollars, I think. Don't know if this still works. I remember they did want to see proof that I lived in Mexico and notified me via email at my telnor acct when the card was ready. I also made the apt. online.

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[*] posted on 1-5-2012 at 07:12 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by willardguy
good question. I too wanted the card without giving up my book. ended up costing me 70 bucks at the post office. gotta be a better way!


I don't understand why so much $ 70 .....:?:...:?: .. Is there an extra charge for not sending your passport in with the app. ?? I sent it all in " as instructed " and got it all back in 11 days. During the holidays too...( Dec 21 to Dec 31 ).... Get it now......
http://travel.state.gov/passport/ppt_card/ppt_card_3926.html


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[*] posted on 1-5-2012 at 07:34 PM
Passport Card Appliction at Tijuna Consulate


Last April we applied for Passport Cards at the Tijuana consulate.

We did not have to surrender our U.S. passports.

I am fuzzy about how much it cost - I think $30 per application, but that info is on the U.S. .gov website.

The consulate notified us by email in about five days that our cards were ready to be picked up.




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[*] posted on 1-5-2012 at 09:51 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by willardguy
am I stuck in some kind of time warp here in rosarito?? am I a day behind?



You're offline which changes the time on the posts. Go online and it goes to the correct time. You can just stay online so you don't have to mess around with it anymore.
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[*] posted on 1-5-2012 at 11:46 PM


once again here's what you need....

http://travel.state.gov/passport/ppt_card/ppt_card_3926.html


The U.S. Passport Card can be used to enter the United States from Canada, Mexico, the Caribbean, and Bermuda at land border crossings or sea ports-of-entry and is more convenient and less expensive than a passport book. The passport card cannot be used for international travel by air.

VALIDITY AND COST


Adults (Age 16 and Older)


Validity: 10 years


First-Time Applicant Cost: $55

Previous Passport Holder Cost: $30


Minors (Under Age 16)


Validity: 5 years


Cost for All Minors: $40




HOW TO APPLY

All U.S. citizens may apply for a passport card.

If you have a U.S. passport book and are eligible to use Form DS-82, you may apply for the card by mail. You can use Form DS-82 to renew your passport book at the same time that your apply for your passport card.

If you have never had a U.S. passport book or are not eligible to use Form DS-82, you must apply in person using Form DS-11.

All passport cards will be returned using First Class Mail. Passport cards cannot be shipped to you using overnight delivery.




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[*] posted on 1-6-2012 at 03:46 PM


Dear All,

Thank you for your replies. Amazingly, the Consulate in TJ answered my emailed question w/in 24 hours. (One question I had was "how do I make an appt. online, when you have no option to make an appt. in order to obtain a passport card?") Here is what they said:

"Dear Ms.[Terieus]

"Thank you for your e-mail.

"You should make an appointment using the option “apply for a second passport.” The passport card is a passport just like your passport book, but it may only be used to make entry by land in to the US. Therefore, you should bring your photos, current passport, and any other documentation you think you will need to prove your citizenship and identity. Additionally, you may want to fill out form DS-82 in advance of your arrival to save time.

"Unfortunately, because the passport card is a passport that has security features, the passport cards are not made here at the consulate, and you would need to return in approximately 2 weeks to pick it up from the Consulate.

"Generally, the cost for an applicant who has a current passport book is $30.

"Sincerely,
"American Citizen Services,
"US Consulate General - Tijuana"


So, my next option would have been to apply in the San Diego area, IF I could obtain the card at the same time. But per one of you who applied in Imperial Beach, it sounds like the card will NOT be issued at the time of the application?

I do NOT understand all the discrepancies in prices quoted for this little card, even on the State Department's web site. However, I LIKE the $30 quote from the Consulate. :yes:
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[*] posted on 1-6-2012 at 03:56 PM


No existing passport - $55 plus expedited handling? $18

Have Passport - $30 plus expedited handling? $18




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puzzled.gif posted on 1-6-2012 at 04:09 PM


Maybe I am just slow to comprehend, but:

Why do you want a passport card when you already have a passport? Is your passport expired or about to expire?

If this is the case, then I understand: it costs less than a renewal of the passport book. Be aware that the card is restrictive in that it cannot be used when traveling by air.




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[*] posted on 1-6-2012 at 04:12 PM


Got mine by mail, no hassle, surprisingly quick turnaround. Really good to have because it's always with me in my wallet, whereas I was always forgetting the book.

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[*] posted on 1-6-2012 at 04:28 PM


Toneart: I live in Ensenada and like to cross the border, periodically. With a passport card (or a newer passport than I have), I can cross using special lanes that are supposed to move faster due to the fact that there are computer-readable chips in the card (and in newer passports).
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[*] posted on 1-6-2012 at 04:32 PM
Nope


Can't use the Passport book in the Ready Lane, only the Passport Card.



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[*] posted on 1-6-2012 at 04:35 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by MsTerieus
Toneart: I live in Ensenada and like to cross the border, periodically. With a passport card (or a newer passport than I have), I can cross using special lanes that are supposed to move faster due to the fact that there are computer-readable chips in the card (and in newer passports).


Got it! Thank you for your reply. :yes:




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[*] posted on 1-6-2012 at 04:40 PM
Yep.


I don't think that is right, BajaGuy. If your passport book has a readable chip, I believe you CAN use it in the Ready Lane.

Not that this is the best authority (and God forbid that U.S. Customs or the State Department would post the rules), but see, e.g.,

http://www.sandiegored.com/noticias/17011/U-S-expands-to-five-Ready-Lanes-at-Otay-Mesa/

"Confusion about program

"The only requirement be able to use the Ready Lane is for motorists to have one of four U.S. documents enabled with radio frequency technology, such as a NEWER U.S. PASSPORT, a visa laser issued after 2008, a permanent resident card (also referred to as “green card) and the SENTRI pass." (Emphasis added.)



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[*] posted on 1-6-2012 at 04:50 PM
Nope, Part II


What documents can I use to enter the Ready Lane?

WHTI-compliant, RFID-enabled cards approved by the Department of Homeland Security include: the U.S. Passport Card; the Enhanced Driver's License (EDL); the Enhanced Tribal Card (ETC); Trusted Traveler Cards (NEXUS, SENTRI and FAST cards); the new Enhanced Permanent Resident Card (PRC) or new Border Crossing Card (BCC).

SENTRI and NEXUS lanes are reserved strictly for the use of SENTRI and NEXUS card holders.

All travelers in the vehicle over the age of 16 must have an RFID-enabled card to use the Ready Lane. Children 15 years old and younger may travel in the Ready Lane with adult travelers if all adults in the vehicle have an RFID-enabled travel card.

Reference:

https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/1211/~/ready-la...




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[*] posted on 1-6-2012 at 05:08 PM


No existing passport - $55 plus expedited handling? $18

Have Passport - $30 plus expedited handling? $18



kasheydog was wondering why my card 70 bucks. I needed mycard asap and it was my understanding that if you were not willing to surrender your book(I had immediate travel plans) that you had to go the "no existing passport route"(73 bucks).
in reality of course there was no reason I really needed the card, the ready lane at san ysidro wasnt open yet. sometimes I just get on a mission then everything turns to crap
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