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[*] posted on 5-3-2012 at 02:54 PM
Planning a few weeks in Baja


Howdy nomads,

I'm planning to spend a few weeks in Baja sometime in May (as soon as I finish getting the truck together). Start and end dates aren't fixed.

I've been reading tons of information about how to get to various places but not a whole lot of info on how to choose which places to aim for.

I'm all about exploring but I'd like to have a few spots in mind.


  • I'll be driving a 4x4 with mud terrains, air compressor, spares, etc.
  • I don't want to do any hardcore wheeling by myself but I'll drive on almost any road, non-technical trails, beaches, etc.
  • I have a Garmin but no idea how useful it will be in Mexico with my hacked up maps
  • My range is 280 miles plus 2 jerry cans worth 150 more in a pinch, all Diesel.
  • I'll be starting in Mexicali and ending in La Paz (ferry to Mazatlan)
  • Interested in wilderness camping
  • Organised camp sites are ok if they are tent-friendly (space to put a tent next to a bunch of RVs is not what I consider friendly)
  • Even better is a palapa for my hammock with my truck parked nearby
  • I'll hit up the occasional economical-but-nice hotel but I prefer to camp when possible
  • I'd like to photograph pristine landscapes and architecture / ruins / missions
  • I'm always looking for good coffee and/or beer
  • I have a mask & fins. Good beaches for swimming? I'm a weak swimmer trying to rehab a shoulder injury so nothing crazy.


I figure I'll head for San Felipe and then Gonzaga Bay but that's as much detail as I have in my head thus far. Where should I wander off to?
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[*] posted on 5-3-2012 at 04:45 PM


any of the area between San Felipe and Gozaga will be to your liking except it is starting to get warm by May. Then I would head for Vizcaino, fillup, and head for the Pacific for a couple of days. Take the coast route south from Asuncion to Abreojos. from there you can head back over to the gulf at Santa Roslia.Kinda best of both worlds this way since you have a little time/
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[*] posted on 5-3-2012 at 04:47 PM


Try not to get too isolated, WAW. It's a bad idea these days....especially if you're alone.
I hate mentioning this to folks, but it's a fact to be reckoned with.
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[*] posted on 5-3-2012 at 04:49 PM


Bahia de los Angeles and on the way Calamajue Tinaja de Yubay Desengano San Borja oh yah lots of sites.



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[*] posted on 5-3-2012 at 04:54 PM


YUP!:tumble:



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[*] posted on 5-3-2012 at 04:57 PM


If you haven't looked at them, there are other forum
sections here, Trip Reports, Camping, Fishing, etc.
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[*] posted on 5-3-2012 at 05:19 PM


WideAngle, you travel the way I do. Just head south with the AAA map and have fun. Everything will be an adventure. Don't drive at night and don't get to isolated. It will be hot so don't forget you can always take a break or two on the Pacific side. Don't forget tarps for the wind.

Santispac Beach (Mulege) Feb 2012


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[*] posted on 5-3-2012 at 05:19 PM


For photography and exploring I would not miss Comondu area...enter from Insurgentes..turn left and go towards san juanico...turn up at Ejido Francisco Villa...un friggin believeable up there....our camp has a VW van parked there right now and lots of room for tents...nice climate if the gulf side gets too hot...stop in for a beer!



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[*] posted on 5-3-2012 at 05:28 PM


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Try not to get too isolated, WAW. It's a bad idea these days....especially if you're alone.
I hate mentioning this to folks, but it's a fact to be reckoned with.


I hear you, and I know this is always a risk, but I must admit I'm having trouble gauging the danger in Baja.

I know some of you do it regularly and survive. What's the secret? Do you also play Russian roulette in your free time? :)
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[*] posted on 5-3-2012 at 05:38 PM


There is more danger in any US city every day, than there is a year of camping in Baja... Bad stuff happens, so better that it happen while you are LIVING the LIFE, than staying 'safe' and locked up in your own home... yes?

Please feel free to see many photos of many sites in my web page http://VivaBaja.com my special interest is the peninsula history, I have a Spanish Missions page with photos at the 27 Spanish missions and many of their visitas (sub-mission visiting stations): http://vivabaja.com/bajamissions

To get a feel for what's there (at many interesting sites in Baja - norte): See http://vivabaja.com/tours click on a site, grouped around many destination towns.

We visited many mission sites last trip to Baja CA Sur: http://vivabaja.com/709 even discovered one that was reported destroyed by road builders.... not!

By all means, ask away!



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[*] posted on 5-4-2012 at 12:23 AM


The first leg of your trip, Mexicali to San Felipe, is 130 miles of flat desert, and a hot, boring drive, IMHO. Mid- late May temps are likely 90 - 110F. Seems like a waste when the drive south on dirt roads through the Sierra de Juárez would be scenic. Usually mild May temperatures at those elevations (4,000' to 5,000'). Start at La Rumorosa at the top of the grade on Hwy 2. Turn south on dirt roads toward the Parque Nacional / Laguna Hanson. A truck or SUV is recommended, but 4WD not needed in May. There should be some water remaining in the shallow lake. Nice wilderness camping and hiking at Canyon Tajo (half-way to Laguna Hanson). Mid-week, the camping should be quiet at the main area (west side) of the lake. Or, drive around to the east side of the lake for privacy. Continue south to Hwy 3 at Ojos Negros. From there, Drive southeast to Hwy 5 and south to San Felipe. Or, drive west to Ensenada and south on Hwy 1 on the Pacific Coast, perhaps camping near Erenidira or San Antonio del Mar on the way to San Quintin.

How much time do you have? A side trip off Hwy 3 (at Valle Trinidad) to Mike's Sky Ranch in the Sierra San Pedro Mártir and on to the Observatory would be incomparable to anything else in Baja. Nice camping up high on the plateau, but be prepared for a chilly night. Plan on an extra two or three days should you venture to the observatory. Search the forum for more info on any of these places.
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[*] posted on 5-4-2012 at 05:24 AM


right now, the Pacific part of Baja is on the cool side and we are having strong winds in the afternoons .... but the mornings have been exquisitely beautiful.

I think you will enjoy the bahia concepcion beaches further south from Mulege. comparable to any famous beach around the world. and very few people staying there this time of year.





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[*] posted on 5-4-2012 at 07:27 AM


"I'd like to photograph pristine landscapes and architecture / ruins / missions"

Be sure to go to Mision San Borja. Ask one of caretakers there to take you to the pictographs. Go to San Borja the back way from Bahia de los Angeles. You'll see plenty of pristine desert landscape en route. If you're interested in birding, the birds are great at San Borja due to their water cachments there - warm pools, which flow into a reservoir, which they use to water their garden. Great sunsets there too.
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[*] posted on 5-4-2012 at 08:31 AM


We feel very very safe in this area of central pacific baja from Bahia Tortugas to Pta.Abreojos because of all the security patrols that the fishing cooperativas do. They patrol all the beach areas a few times a day and get a bead on any strange vehicles in the area...which discourages the bad guys. Also if you break down or have any kind of emergency, they will come along and have radios and are very helpful....so remote camping is safe here...plus the villages are small and everyone knows everyone so crime is much less prevalent...because somebody is always watching and caring...family looks after family and the old baja spirit is present.



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"I'd like to photograph pristine landscapes and architecture / ruins / missions"

Be sure to go to Mision San Borja. Ask one of caretakers there to take you to the pictographs. Go to San Borja the back way from Bahia de los Angeles. You'll see plenty of pristine desert landscape en route. If you're interested in birding, the birds are great at San Borja due to their water cachments there - warm pools, which flow into a reservoir, which they use to water their garden. Great sunsets there too.


YES... exactly why I suggested San Borja... and just 2 miles on the San Borja road (from the L.A. Bay paved road) turn left for the beautiful 7 mile drive to Montevideo painted cliffs. You pass through beautiful desert gardens and drive right up to the rock art sites...






Boojum trees are fun!

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[*] posted on 5-4-2012 at 08:35 AM


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Try not to get too isolated, WAW. It's a bad idea these days....especially if you're alone.
I hate mentioning this to folks, but it's a fact to be reckoned with.


I hear you, and I know this is always a risk, but I must admit I'm having trouble gauging the danger in Baja.

I know some of you do it regularly and survive. What's the secret? Do you also play Russian roulette in your free time? :)


I feel that any danger if it exists comes when you offroad camp close to hwy 1 or it's settlements. I still do it but always south of El Rosario in hilly areas where I'm out of sight from the hwy. But if you're somewhere off the beaten track like San Borja you've got zero chance of being acosted.

Regarding offroad places to go:

You might try the Bay of LA to El Arco to Hwy 1 loop. On the way you will pass Las Animas which is a beautiful piece of shallow aquamarine water, San Rafael which has good snorkeling, San Francisquito which is a beautiful little bay, and the finest grove of cardon cactus in all of baja just before you get to El Arco. Lots of opportunity to beach camp with nobody around. Lots of washboard road. Bring everything with you (water).

But there are tons of places. It's a choice of heat vs wind. I prefer the heat until it's intolerable then cross the peninsula. I can't take the wind for more than 4 or 5 days. I can still remember taking one of those solar bag showers at San Roque .... brrrrrrrr. That was July.
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[*] posted on 5-4-2012 at 08:50 AM


I concur with Shari on this area.
Hard to believe that such a place exists in Baja...but then there Bahia Asunción!


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For photography and exploring I would not miss Comondu area...enter from Insurgentes..turn left and go towards san juanico...turn up at Ejido Francisco Villa...un friggin believeable up there....our camp has a VW van parked there right now and lots of room for tents...nice climate if the gulf side gets too hot...stop in for a beer!




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[*] posted on 5-4-2012 at 01:22 PM


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The first leg of your trip, Mexicali to San Felipe, is 130 miles of flat desert, and a hot, boring drive, IMHO. Mid- late May temps are likely 90 - 110F.

I know it - this departure delay is really frustrating. I was planning to do this back in February.

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How much time do you have?

As much as I want but for planning purposes I'm setting aside ~3 weeks for Baja. I'd like to have some time on the mainland too.

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A side trip off Hwy 3 (at Valle Trinidad) to Mike's Sky Ranch in the Sierra San Pedro Mártir and on to the Observatory would be incomparable to anything else in Baja.

You make a compelling case. I'm sold.

I do like observatories:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wideanglewandering/6908024377/

Thanks for all the suggestions. I'm trying to absorb all this now.
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[*] posted on 5-4-2012 at 03:30 PM


i started putting together a google map to visualize the suggestions.

thanks again.

http://g.co/maps/9qsen

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For photography and exploring I would not miss Comondu area...enter from Insurgentes..turn left and go towards san juanico...turn up at Ejido Francisco Villa...un friggin believeable up there....our camp has a VW van parked there right now and lots of room for tents...nice climate if the gulf side gets too hot...stop in for a beer!


This sounds great. I'm not sure I found it on the map but I have made a note of it.

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Be sure to go to Mision San Borja.

sold

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You might try the Bay of LA to El Arco to Hwy 1 loop.

Intrigued but not sure I understand the route. Google does a chit job of labeling road names but it looks like highway 18 south from LA to San Rafael and on to El Arco?
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[*] posted on 5-4-2012 at 05:54 PM


It's no highway... but the road between Mex. 1 and El Arco was paved once and called Mex. #18.

Mision San Borja is 22 miles south of the highway into L.A. Bay and 22 miles east from the village of Rosarito (south of Punta Prieta)... sometimes refered to as Nuevo Rosarito to seperate it from the city near Tijuana, on the beach! Pretty much in the center of Baja.

SEE THIS BLOG PAGE (GREAT PHOTOS): http://www.bajabus.org/day-2-bahia-de-los-angeles-to-mission...

Thanks La Paz Gringo!

[Edited on 5-5-2012 by David K]




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