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Bajatripper
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Two Campers Held Up Near Los Planes
An article in the Sudcaliforniano ealier this week reports that a couple of tourists sleeping in a motorhome at El Faro Viejo near San Juan de los
Planes (about 25 miles outside of La Paz over on Ventana Bay) were held.
On June 25th, two foreigners reported that five or six armed suspects pulled up to the beach where they were sleeping in a motorhome in the pre-dawn
hours and robbed them of a 28 foot boat with two 200hp Kawasaki outboards and a Kawasaki ATV.
While I've never heard Punta Arena called "El Faro Viejo," I'm supposing that this is where the event happened. There are two lighthouses there, one
from the 1950s and another of more recent construction.
This made me think of an event that recently happened to me. I was camping alone at Estero San Marcos, south of Santa Rosalia, about two weeks ago.
While laying on the beach stargazing at around 10 p.m., I heard a motorboat nearby. The lights of the mining operation on San Marcos Island provided
me with enough light to see several (at least six) silhouettes in the panga as it motored parallel to the beach I was on, perhaps 20 yards offshore.
When the boat swung around for another pass in front of me, I figured it could be a drug drop off or something similar (there's a white blockhouse
near the beach that would be an excellent navigational aid). I also figured that I didn't want to be a witness to whatever they were up to, so I
quickly gathered my tent and bag in the dark and stuffed everything into my vehicle and sought out another place to sleep that night. As I had left
behind a small hatchet, I decided to go back the next morning. I didn't see any signs of a drug dropoff and so figured I must have been wrong.
With this latest incident near La Paz, I'm wondering if this might not be a new way to hold up campers on the beaches of Baja. Although it isn't a
pleasant thought, it is something we should all keep in mind.
The article:
La Paz, Baja California Sur.- La madrugada del día 25 de junio de 2012 cinco o seis presuntos delincuentes armados, arribaron a la playa "El Faro
Viejo" jurisdicción delegacional de San Juan de Los Planes, Baja California Sur, amagaron a dos extranjeros que dormían en un camper estacionado en
dicha playa.
Los individuos se llevaron una lancha de 28 pies de eslora, con dos motores fuera de borda de 200 caballos de fuerza HP, asi como una cuatrimoto
Kawasaki, modelo 2004.
Elementos de la Dirección General de Seguridad Pública, Policía Preventiva y Tránsito Municipal, informaron que a las 01:00 horas de ese día habían
reportaron vía radio, que en la comandancia delegacional de San Juan de Los Planes, Baja California Sur, acudieron dos extranjeros para reportar un
asalto.
Manifestaron que cuando estaban dormidos en una casa rodante estacionada en la paya a un lado del "Faro Viejo", cuando fueron despertados por cinco o
seis personas armadas, quienes llegaron en una lancha rápida.
Llevándose una cuatri-moto, marca Kawasaki, modelo 2004, color verde, una lancha 28 pies de eslora, modelo 1999, con 2 motores fuera de borda de 200
hp , marca Yamaha, color gris.
Acudieron los uniformados al lugar de los hechos, logrando entrevistarse con el velador del mencionado lugar, corroborando lo antes mencionado por los
reportantes, por lo que manifestaron que pasarían ante el Agente del Ministerio Público del Fuero Común Investigador a interponer la denuncia
correspondiente.
There most certainly is but one side to every story: the TRUTH. Variations of it are nothing but lies.
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Thanks Steve. It wasn't too long ago when Baja Sur Nomads used to make fun of the Baja Norte Nomads, because there was 'no' crime in Sur... Too bad
for the things that cannot remain the same.
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If you think of it, coming in from the sea to rob is a very smart way to pull off a crime. Let's hope this doesn't become a trend.
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Bajatripper
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ateo
If you think of it, coming in from the sea to rob is a very smart way to pull off a crime. Let's hope this doesn't become a trend.
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My sentiments exactly, on both accounts.
There most certainly is but one side to every story: the TRUTH. Variations of it are nothing but lies.
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Congratulations on becoming an 'ULTRA NOMAD'!
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The boat and the motors was the main course. The ATV was dessert. The boat and motors is almost irresistible "carnada" (bait) to los narcos. Not even
a candy apple red Hummer with 48" gold plated wheels would get their juices flowing like this. "CHEAP DRUGS AT ANY COST" in the states made all this
possible.
A Lot To See And A Lot To Do
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Lee
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Thanks Steve. It wasn't too long ago when Baja Sur Nomads used to make fun of the Baja Norte Nomads, because there was 'no' crime in Sur... Too bad
for the things that cannot remain the same. |
Those BCN nomads are still being made fun of.
No one has ever stated that there is LITERALLY no crime EVER in BCS.
I'm guessing most crime in BCN is between Ensenada and TJ -- and that crime does not compare to crime in BCS.
Isolated, remote beaches excluded.
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We drove into the RV park that the guys were robbed on June 30, and we (my wife Jana & myself), did not feel "warm and fuzzy" residents either
locals or Gringos. That park is now totally empty. We drove all the way to Punta Coyote and saw nothing that could attract our attention as far as
finding a place to hang our hat on with our RV.
Bahia De Los Sueños and Bahia De Los Muertos were much the same way. @ Sueños, there was one of those Mega Resorts being built.
El Cardonal and Punta Pescadero, the places were very dirty and very little, if any, shade.
Internet is very spotty wherever we stayed, even the hotel MAR DE CORTEZ has very slow and persnickety internet, therefore I have to be brief.
I'll put together a full report when we get back to the OC. I promise I'll post the photos of the the marlins that Jana and myself caught
I'll post some photos but the collection will be on a link on PICASA.
We'll return on Thursday, later this week.
Udo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Lee
No one has ever stated that there is LITERALLY no crime EVER in BCS.
I'm guessing most crime in BCN is between Ensenada and TJ -- and that crime does not compare to crime in BCS.
Isolated, remote beaches excluded. |
Back in the day, camping at Muertos Bay alone in May
after the snowbirds left, would give me a feeling of
being vunerable. You would have to have quite the
imagination to compare Baja N crime to Baja Sur,
often have seen pangueros take the props off
when beached, due to supposed theft from the
mainland, don't know if the panga theieves from the
mainland were fisherman or otros
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That's too bad. Those isolated beaches around there are the cleanest that I've ever seen.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ateo
If you think of it, coming in from the sea to rob is a very smart way to pull off a crime. Let's hope this doesn't become a trend.
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That's exactly how the US Navy Seals do it!
Bob Durrell
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Spearo
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This happened at Punta Arena. I know because I was there and all involved were friends of mine. The two folks on the beach were robbed of the atv at
gunpoint. The boat, a 28' with twin 200's, belonged to a friend of mine. We had anchored it in front of our friends camp at the beach for the night
because the tides were wrong for launching at the boat ramp at Muertos early the next morning. We had pangas and personal aircraft searching for the
boat the next morning but the s.o.p. for these guys is to pull the motors and sink the boat. We are just thankful that no one got hurt. The Mexican
authorities really did nothing but shrug about the whole thing and ask for gas money to go look for the boat. Apparently that was the sixth boat
stolen in the last couple of weeks from the La Paz area. The atv was tossed in a panga while another towed the boat off. The thieves had what
appeared to be automatic weapons. The cops in Los Planes didn't even want to go to the playa when we reported this crime at about 2 am. Again, no
one got hurt but some long time Baja folks had a life changing experience that night. It really changed the way I look at beach camping and safety in
general in Baja.
Were it not for the abdomen, man would easily reckon himself a god.
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thanks for the report
That really SUCKS !! and may god and karma work FAST !!!!
[Edited on 7-4-2012 by captkw]
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Tell your friends if you would of my condolences. Wouldn't it be great to pack say four or five sticks of 60% dynamite into an outboard motor housing
and then.......
Yeah, I know.
Crap!
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Heather
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Udo are you still at Mar de Cortez? My sis is there room 115... we're staying at a place around the corner, but my girls have been in and out of the
pool all week. Saludos, Heather
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This takes on extra meaning because I know the guy who owned the boat and I was telling him about my boat being stolen at Muertos some years ago and
wished that I had one of the SPOT units to put on the boat which would give you a computer readout of its location. He said he would have to check
into that, but he always kept the boat in his yard in Los Planes and only put it on anchor because of the wierd tides.
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very terrible news. theft is a horrible thing.
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NOMADS------MAD as HELL !!!
HOLA,,this was a hell of a lot more than simple theft !! not to yell at you,,that is not my intention..this just makes my blood boil !! and One of the
many reasons I recommed having GOOD handhelds !!! always have a GOOD/CHARGED handheld in your car/truck !!! It may have helped ?? youd be surprized
how good they can work!!! and how us boat folk's are on the radio...24/7 !! Saved me many times !! even with a bad cop in la paz!! LOL...wish..I had
been in the area with a 30 cal mounted on the front of my cat and got that radio call in the night..I would have SMACKED them !! the shrinks call
this "venting"....... ...........K & T
[Edited on 7-4-2012 by captkw]
[Edited on 7-4-2012 by captkw]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Spearo
This happened at Punta Arena. I know because I was there and all involved were friends of mine. The two folks on the beach were robbed of the atv at
gunpoint. The boat, a 28' with twin 200's, belonged to a friend of mine. We had anchored it in front of our friends camp at the beach for the night
because the tides were wrong for launching at the boat ramp at Muertos early the next morning. We had pangas and personal aircraft searching for the
boat the next morning but the s.o.p. for these guys is to pull the motors and sink the boat. We are just thankful that no one got hurt. The Mexican
authorities really did nothing but shrug about the whole thing and ask for gas money to go look for the boat. Apparently that was the sixth boat
stolen in the last couple of weeks from the La Paz area. The atv was tossed in a panga while another towed the boat off. The thieves had what
appeared to be automatic weapons. The cops in Los Planes didn't even want to go to the playa when we reported this crime at about 2 am. Again, no
one got hurt but some long time Baja folks had a life changing experience that night. It really changed the way I look at beach camping and safety in
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bummer.
sad that cops don't be cops. that's why crime is rampant. how many time have we heard about cops that won't investigate crimes unless you pay for
gasoline????? if there is no crime victim to pay them today, then they just head out to highway and stop cars to extort money for fabricated
infractions. remind me again,... why do they even bother to have cops???????????????
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Cops not being cops is probably the single biggest problem in Mexico. Crooks know they can generally operate with impunity.
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