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David K
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Yah, I know... you should see my Baja book collection! Seriously, the economy is bad so we won't make it painful!
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John M
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Way to go!
I'm very happy for you David - it's an accomplishment to produce a fine book (which I have no doubt it is).
Plus a powerpoint book release show? Let us know in plenty of time to plan to be there!
John and Barbara M
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David K
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Thanks John, you and Barbara were great help in my compiling the details I was seeking to confirm... thank you again for your help!
I just got off the phone with Max (9:30am) and we are trying to add the 1757 Jesuit California map and a 1903 map of the nine Alta California missions
founded by Junipero Serra, plus add another definition suggested by Carol at Discover Baja... neophyte... we use the words native, Indian and
neophyte, so it was important that the strange word was defined! (Neophyte is/was a mission Indian being converted to Christianity).
We are very fortunate that so many Baja history folks have had a part in helping us develop this information guide to the missions. By cross
referencing the data from several sources, I think I have been able to provide the best data on the Baja missions (as far as who, what, when, where,
and why). As you may know, there is quite a lot of wrong or missing details in many of the books about the Baja missions... such as dates founded,
number of missions, listing visitas as missions, etc.
Max and Erline were the fact finders for the Alta missions and had already a draft for some of the Baja missions when they invited me on-board.
With this one handy guide, the reader can have access to the basic data for the 48 California missions, numbered and presented in the order they were
founded. In the book are four pages of books given that are about the missions, so the reader who wished to dive deeper into the history will know
where to look.
The hardest part is dealing with typos, spelling, comma placement, structure... Max is doing his best to get it all right, but pretty much any book
will have an error or few... I hope the reader will appreciate that the data is correct. Having written and published books yourself John, I know you
must be all-too-familiar with that!
Thanks for your comments and your assistance!
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Excellent!
-- Congratulations on your new book David --
That is a great accomplishment. I'll be ordering as soon as they're off the press.
Jay
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elbeau
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Very cool DK, sign me up for a copy!
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bufeo
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Well done. Congratulations on the completion of your book.
Allen R
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Excellent work is not easy. Thanks to you, Max and Erline for your efforts in this undertaking. I too would like a copy when it's ready.
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David K
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This week, I do yet another complete scan of the text with my list of fixes that were found by our many helping friends and historians, to see if Max
got them all made.
We have added 3 old maps that should be good to be in this book to go along with the mission location maps... which are outlines of the three states
of California and numbers representing the missions as they were founded.
We are doing about 30 copies this month, with 20 going to a special California historic gathering with the CAREM folks http://www.carem.org
Anyway, once I have seen the first short run... I will place the ad on the Nomad miscl. classified forum and will have a discounted price for early
orders... the books will be run in October.
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David K
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Here is an early sample of the back cover... part has been cropped off the top, where the price was given.
Max has other plans for the back cover, such as comments from other Baja and Alta mission authors.
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David K
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Max confirmed we have added three historic maps of 'California'...
I have not seen two of them...
*A 1600's map showing California as an island.
*The 1757 Jesuit map of the missions (1747 data).
*A early 1900's map showing the Serra founded missions in Alta California.
I have shown the 1757 map here many times, but it isn't easy to see the small details...
The Map from Jesuit Padre Miguel Venegas's book, published in 1757 show the missions as they were about 10 years earlier. Three planned missions in
the north were listed here as started and have been the source of lost mission legends. The Santa Rosa mission is shown on the wrong side of the
peninsula, as Venegas (who was never in California) confused it for the visita of San Jose del Cabo mission of the same name.
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I added an X for the missions as they are shown on the map, and added the names to help you find them.
In the north, San Juan Bautista ? is the lost Santa Clara mission near Abreojos and Santa Maria Magdalena ? is the planned mission near Bahia las
Animas.
Dolores del Norte was the planned name for what would become Santa Gertrudis.
Again, the data used was from about 1747... Consag made his voyage to the head of the gulf and the Tres Virgenes eruption of 1746 is listed on the
map. The La Paz mission hadn't moved to Todos Santos, where Santa Rosa mission was still operating.
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David K
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No takers on guessing the names of the missions on the front cover?
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David it looks great-plz save me a copy, quick question- how much influence did Father Juniper Serra have on the Baja missions?
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by QUETZALCOATL
David it looks great-plz save me a copy, quick question- how much influence did Father Juniper Serra have on the Baja missions?
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Other than his founding of the 18th California mission, in Baja, not all was done in a good way. The Franciscans 'looted' the Jesuit missions for
supplies, and people, to establish the Alta California missions. Serra had a cargo trail built from Bahia San Luis Gonzaga west to supply his new
mission of San Fernando. The trail by-passed Mission Santa Maria, which soon was reduced to a visita of San Borja mission.
Once the Franciscans (led by their president Junipero Serra) saw the poor conditions the Jesuits were working under when they took over the California
missions in mid-1768... they were overjoyed when Spain instructed them to get to San Diego and Monterey (areas only seen from the sea, before Serra
led the expedition north).
Once Serra saw the land north of the peninsula (Nueva California/ Alta California), the Franciscans were 'happy' to give the peninsula to the
Dominicans... who got more than they had wished to get when they petioned the King to co-establish California with the Franciscans.
In 1773 the Dominicans arrived to assume responsibility for the Jesuit founded missions, the one mission on the peninsula founded by Serra, and to
build new missions between the existing ones and San Diego. Serra personally founded nine missions in Alta California after his first, in Baja
California.
The Dominicans founded 7 Spanish missions or 8, if you count El Descanso (which was really a new site for San Miguel). Their 9th mission (Guadalupe)
was founded after Mexico won its independence. The Franciscans also founded one Mexican mission in Alta California (Sonoma).
Okay... I got some work to do, and I am meeting Max maybe this afternoon to okay the last edit...
Once I am comfortable with the stage it's in for publishing, I will post an ad here on Nomad with the early-order details. Nomads who expressed a
desire for the book will get a u2u, as well.
I am really excited to see this much interest in the mission history... even if it took a book (and not just my posts) to do it!!  
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David,
Add me to your list, I'd like to buy one.
John
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Great work David, I too am interested in a copy.
BTW, I'm just curious if and how your publisher obtained permissions to publish excerpts of copyrighted maps.
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by edm1
Great work David, I too am interested in a copy.
BTW, I'm just curious if and how your publisher obtained permissions to publish excerpts of copyrighted maps. |
Thanks Art!
The mission locator maps (3) are made by me. The 1757 map is not copyrighted and has been used by other books. The other two maps are also over 100
years old that Max has added.
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Congratulations on your book David. Really excited to getting a copy signed. Please let us know when and where and PLEASE let it be early October
because it'll be difficult to get to San Diego Before then. Will be in Borrego Springs 9/6 to 9/14 and returning 9/28.
Can't wait to see the book. Rudi
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David K
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Thanks Rudi.
Don't worry, the book can get to you if you are not in San Diego!
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Hi David,
I think I'll try to name the Misions on your cover:
1.) San Fernando Velicata
2.) San Javier
3.) San Luis Rey
4.) San Ignacio
5.) Santisimo Rosario (West of town)
6.) San Diego
7.) San Miguel Arcangel de Frontera
Looking forward to the book!!
KC
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