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[*] posted on 9-13-2013 at 04:58 AM


FWIW, i had a copy a few years ago that worked flawlessly. no workbook came with it, just put it in the computer and start speaking spanglish. i'd say it's worth $65.



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[*] posted on 9-13-2013 at 06:47 AM


Livemocha, which is a pretty good site, has a special. The full 1-5 Rosetta Stone for $199.
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[*] posted on 9-13-2013 at 11:04 AM


Maybe you all know about it, but there is a school in La Paz that teaches Spanish too. I have heard from guests that it is a good program. It is called Se Habla. I don't have contact info, but surely you can track it down online.



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[*] posted on 9-13-2013 at 01:13 PM


There's a Rosetta Stone-copycat site out there called DuoLingo. You can use it on your smartphone, tablet or computer. It costs zero dollars. I'm using it for Portuguese.

http://www.duolingo.com
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[*] posted on 9-13-2013 at 01:34 PM


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Maybe you all know about it, but there is a school in La Paz that teaches Spanish too. I have heard from guests that it is a good program. It is called Se Habla. I don't have contact info, but surely you can track it down online.


http://www.sehablalapaz.com

I've studied at Se Habla over the years. Stayed here http://www.tuscanybaja.com last Spring while studying at Se Habla. Tuscany is a block off the Malecon, and a block from La Fonda. 10 minute drive down the Malecon to class.

http://learningspanishlikecrazy.com

Haven't bought the lessons from this group and if you get on their mailing list, they'll send free Spanish emails with lots of stuff to learn.

Rosetta Stone is good and have gotten a lot from the course. See, hear, speak it's a great course.

Nothing beats 1 of 1 with a great instructor, though.
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[*] posted on 6-19-2017 at 04:53 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Ken Cooke  
Other options include taking a course at your local community college and even hiring a tutor to assist you with pronunciation and conversation. $500 is a very steep price to pay for language acquisition.


in my opinion $500 is cheap to learn another language. i have many gringo friends who consistently pay too much for good and services due to a lack of spanish. that being said, i am not endorsing RS. like another poster stated, it depends how you learn. i need a more structured, "nuts and bolts" learning method. or the ol' tried and true horizontal method....in bed.
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[*] posted on 6-20-2017 at 06:42 AM


I bought Living Language Spanish, Complete Edition Audio CD – Unabridged from Amazon for $28.50. It received 4.5 stars from 586 customer reviews. I just pop one of the nine CDs into my CD player and repeat words in Spanish on the way to work and back.

I'm not going to go into all the details now, but I think this is something worth looking into.




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[*] posted on 6-20-2017 at 06:42 AM


Duolingo is free. Combinrped with Google translator, it is great.

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[*] posted on 6-21-2017 at 07:18 PM


Great product, fantastic customer service!
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[*] posted on 7-6-2017 at 02:40 PM


Quote: Originally posted by basautter  
Great product, fantastic customer service!

Rosetta? Not sure. I tried Duolingo (see below), and if Duo is a copy-cat of Rosetta Stone, then RS isn't worth much.

As Pescador noted (who I know for sure is quite fluent now), Rosetta Stone won't get you to where you want - that is, conversational skills. His findings are not unique.

RS will give you vocabulary. I understand (without trying this program though) that their concept is to teach adults in the same way you teach children - showing a picture and naming objects on it. Yes, with phrases, but what's the use if you can't understand it. This doesn't work. Adult brain needs understanding the rules and a lot of practice.

What does work?- it depends. Some already have few hundred words and basic tenses under his belt, some need unstructured studies, some need a push - a school.

I started with free DVD copies (Standard Deviants Spanish) where they teach both vocabulary and grammar and make it fun - you you memorize better when it's fun. RS gives you vocabulary, but from what I hear, the way they give it makes it difficult to absorb.

Then printed out a couple of free grammar guides and flash-cards - because you do need to understand grammar rules before you memorize them. RS won't give you this (or they explain Spanish in Spanish, which again doesn't work).

Then downloaded a couple of free audio podcasts where they give both vocabulary and grammar, explaining it in English when necessary. One was simple for starters:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/learn-to-speak-spanish-w...
Another one was more advanced:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/coffee-break-spanish/id2... This guy Mark is a talent. Print of his "numbers" page (somewhere on BBC languages, don't remember) helped me to learn the numbers once and for all. His another pack of pods is Showtime Spanish: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/show-time-spanish/id2921...

Download and listen when walking around the lake ;), or at down-time at work. The lack of graphic context is more than compensated with real-life situations, you can almost see what they are talking about. Pods are free, transcripts are not, but I didn't feel like needing transcripts at that point already.

Then it stalled at the level of a 6-year old child - can talk some, can understand some, and that's it. Need practice. Now listening to free video pods from spanishdict.com - for more practice again. Download from Yutube spanishdict.com lesson 1.1, 2.1 etc. They go from 1.1 to 5.20 or something.

Audio and video pods mentioned above, are free, entertaining, easy to listen, and full of real-life situations.

Duolingo I tried and found it utterly useless. Typing is not the skill-set that you want, their vocabulary is plugged into meaningless phrases like "big dogs eat rice", and they don't explain much grammar. At this age you can't memorize when you don't understand or when the phrase doesn't make sense.

Edit-PS: incomplete list of audio and video pods with some that I mentioned. What they said - download pods onto your smartphone and fit into your schedule:

https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&a...

[Edited on 7-6-2017 by Alm]
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