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David K
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Hi Ron... are you going for another climb?
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Graham
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Wow! I'm impressed. What's the latest on your Picacho attempt?
Will you be coming up Canyon Diablo or dropping down to Campo Noche from the forested plateau?
I was thinking about an attempt to climb the peak or get as far up as I'm able, but earliest I could go is mid-May.
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David K
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How cool would that be!
Desert Rat was so inspired by Graham's first book, he attempted to follow the route of Graham, in 1994: http://www.vivabaja.com/desert_rat/index.html
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Hi Graham. I'm still waiting to hear from Bacquito concerning the trip. I am choosing the Diablo Canyon route because I know the route. I do not
know the route from the Parque plateau but I could probably figure it out. Three years ago, I drove to the Parque to make an attempt but the ranger
said that there was a new regulation stating that all Picacho climbers using the Botella Azul route must have an official guide with them. I was
alone at the time so I did not do the hike. Possibly, I could have made the attempt without a guide and not get caught, but I didn't want to take
the chance. I don't know what the penalty would have been. The Diablo Canyon route is not controlled by the Parque rangers therefore no guide is
required. This is why I'm choosing the Canyon route. Besides, the canyon is a great hiking experience. If Bacquito cannot make the trip with me
during April and you still have the desire to make an attempt in May, I would like to go with you.
And.......Yes, David K, that would be "cool!"
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Ateo
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You guys are hard core. Just looking a that peak almost made me pee my pants last year.
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David K
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Picacho del Diablo, 10,154'
Climbing route details: http://www.dankat.com/swhikes/devil.htm
Map: http://www.dankat.com/swhikes/maps/devil.htm
Photos: http://www.dankat.com/swhikes/slides/devil.htm
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JohnMcfrog
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I remember Campo Noche and the big day from there to the peak. I had some climbing shoes and they worked on the big rock slabs. The guide hugged me at
the top and broke my $100 glasses. Will knew the route and it was a good hike. We bivouac'd at the peak and I had a bag that wasn't up to the test.
Was into a 25 minute cycle where I put my head in the bag, slept and then woke up paranoid in the dark, repeat, repeat... The next week a guy got hit
by a snake 1.5 inches between the fangs. I never saw a snake there, but they are supposedly more aggressive than most. The terrain is so similar that
it was hard to get your bearings without the aids of gps etc. This was in the early 80's.
Juanito
[Edited on 4-5-2013 by JohnMcfrog]
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Graham
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Yes, Picacho Diablo has been both calling me and intimidating me for years. I must have looked across at it thirty or forty times... dreaming!
Thanks for all the advice and info... U2U me Desert Rat if you want to have a go. This is a trip I definitely wouldn't do alone. Quite prepared to
accept failure if it's beyond me. All you can do is try and relish every moment!
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Graham
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Great picture John... inspiring to see you there at the top.
When you see Picacho from across the park it looks like a relatively simple approach from the plateau.
But as you get closer you realize there is a dizzying descent to Canyon Diablo to be tackled first.
And in places it looks almost impossible - not a good place to get lost. This picture with Picacho in the background gives a good idea of how steep
the drop is from the park side into the canyon.
Once you're down all you have to do is climb thousands of feet up an almost sheer wall of boulders and rock.
To be able to stand on top and see what John saw will indeed be a fantastic achievement.
And if all else fails... it's good to know the condors will be looking out for you!
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JohnMcfrog
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Love your pictures Graham..
Juanito
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A bit of info for the Picacho crowd, there is a guy by the name Francisco Detrell certified with the park he is in Ensenada, Ecotours is the name of
his outfit if ever interested to tackle the "hill" from the West he is the person to go to, his fee is very reasonable for what he offers. I
personally can vouch for his services, I have summited twice unfortunately I am very compu challenged so I don't know how to post pictures
\"There are many dangers in Baja. The most serious of which is not going.\" Christophe Noel (EXPO)
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Graham
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Thanks Juanito. I bet you've got some more amazing shots from the peak.
And thanks Nandopedal for the tip about the guide... appreciate the recommendation.
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Graham
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This is how Picacho Diablo appears before dropping into the canyon... almost seems close enough to touch!
But looking down into the awesome expanse of Canyon Diablo will quickly free your mind of the illusion.
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Graham,
I had posted some other pics. Here is a blog which encapsulates a previous post here. http://johnfrogsblog.blogspot.com/2012/08/highway-1-brings-m... If I ever go thru my slides and find anything else, will get in contact.
Juanito
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Don Jorge, Our attempt to climb Picacho made for great memories. The canyon hike was quite a challenge but it was well worth it. I will always be
grateful for your help in getting me to Campo Noche and up Night Wash. This next attempt coming up in May could be the winner. Thanks for cheeriing
us on.
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David K
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Ron, you have a big cheering crowd wishing you success or just good adventure! 
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| Quote: | Originally posted by nandopedal
A bit of info for the Picacho crowd, there is a guy by the name Francisco Detrell certified with the park he is in Ensenada, Ecotours is the name of
his outfit if ever interested to tackle the "hill" from the West he is the person to go to, his fee is very reasonable for what he offers. I
personally can vouch for his services, I have summited twice unfortunately I am very compu challenged so I don't know how to post pictures |
I tried to call Francisco Detrell but the number was no longer in service.
bacquito
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nandopedal
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@ BAQUITO, I believe you can look him up on Facebook if the phone# is no longer, also google "ecoturs", yes just like that turs not tours and you
should be able to get an e-mail address, I have not talk with him in about five years, good luck.
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David K
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Desert Rat & Graham Mackintosh on the mountain!
Got the first SPOT signal last night:
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I will be out of town camping for the 3 day weekend, so no daily SPOT maps until I get back, unless someone else can... I wish them great fun... and I
will be seeing Diablo from our camp (I hope)!
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