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CortezBlue
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Hobie Kayak, have one? Like it? Tell me about it!
Thinking of buying a Hobie kayak oasis tandem.
I'd like to know your thoughts
Where you use it?
What's good and bad about it?
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mcfez
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For fishing?
| Quote: | Originally posted by CortezBlue
Thinking of buying a Hobie kayak oasis tandem.
I'd like to know your thoughts
Where you use it?
What's good and bad about it? |
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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CortezBlue
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Yes, some fishing, but I am probably looking at a tandem model for the wife and I.
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You can fish from them, sail with them, swim from them, peddle, paddle, motorized with or without solar recharge for the battery, They are very
versitile and fun. Easy to move through the water without breaking the surface, so you can see very deep fish!!!! They are fine for rocky beaches,
but one must take proper care not to damage the rudder or peddles. Pretty minimal maintenance, maximum fun!!!!!
Happy Trails
" Don't find fault, find a remedy; anyone can complain." Henry Ford
If you are not living on the edge...you are taking up to much space!
Just because it may not be a good idea does not mean it will not be fun!!!
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dougf69
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Have had a Hobie a few years. Bought it San Diego. Big dealer there.
Complete with sail kit. Awesome. Used it Bajia Concepcion, when we had a place there. I would NOT consider a tandem kayak, of whatever model. Get
another opinion about "tandem".
Used Neckys beffore that.
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dougf69
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Check out www.fastlanekayaking.com .
Very helpful people. Seems like a family business.
Good luck.
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mcfez
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http://www.paddling.net/Reviews/showReviews.html?prod=1631
Kayaks are great...but you really need to have one that "fits" you. We have four styles and each has it's advantages and...disadvantages. What I mean
by "fits" is this: do you have energy to paddle because the wider the kayak is...the more energy it takes to paddle. Yet the wider the unit is...the
more stable in the water it is. It may seem like an easy choir to paddle..........
Rent a few kayaks before you buy........
Without a spray skirt......"ya gonna get wet".
I like the open kayak platform for fishing, but there are drawbacks. One issue is if you find a great "hole"....you really cannot set anchor to remain
in that area. Yes...they do have anchors for kayaks...but you'll find that by loading all sort of stuff into the unit.....it will absolutely become a
tangle mess. So less carry on....the better.
Catching fish requires a lot of twisting and turning in your kayak....making the unit rock back and forth. So do the waves .....create that back and
forth stuff. I suggest if you are going fishing....get Retractable Stabilizers :-) Worth every penny.
And while you are out shopping....a nice bunk cart. Getting back from a day's adventure...the last thing you want to do is drag that kayak all the way
back to the car :-) Most great kayaking spots ....seems that there is never a boat ramp there 
The Sea of Cortez is perfect for kayaks. You really must be careful when using them. Last year two old folks in San Felipe disappeared while out
having fun. Too many stories like this. In Graham Mackintosh's book Marooned With Very Little Beer...(this book or the others) he writes about a group
of Professional Kayak'ers that were down in BoLA........how a few never came back from the Sea. The currents...of the Cortez is strong enough to pull
you out....even at 300 feet from shore! So a warning......not to be taken lightly. I posted a picture of one outing down by Christiana's (sp)
Camp.....that's bout as far out I'll go.
Worth the time and money for kayaking? 110%
[Edited on 4-2-2013 by mcfez]
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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24baja
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Love my hobie adventure with mirage drive. Peddle drive work so well the guys on our local lake kept asking where the motor was. We now have / leave
it at the Bola house and it works great in the bay i tell everyone to buy one. Our son was so impressed he bought one for his wife. Great exercise.
[Edited on 4-2-2013 by 24baja]
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dtbushpilot
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I bought a tandem kayak thinking the same thing, that my wife and I would go out together. Happened a few times, you really can't operate a 2 person
kayak by yourself. Get 2 single kayaks, I know it's a lot more money but you can always sell one if you find that it isn't being used.
"Life is tough".....It's even tougher if you're stupid.....
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taoswheat
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Hobie Outback
I have had an Outback with Mirage drive for about four years. Lots of use around the San Carlos area. I fish out to about 5 miles with no problems.
I have a car top mount that is easy to load single hand and a beach dolly that is really handy.
The pedal drive is neat- 2.5mph is easy and 4-5mph with some effort.
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sancho
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I paddle a single Necky 14', sit on top, a tandem would obviously
force you to paddle with someone, which to me,
would place restrictions on when you would use it.
Some tandems
you can paddle alone to some degree. Personally I would get 2 used kayaks off craigs list so you havesome
flexibility. I'm sure you could get 2 used for the
$ of a new Hobie, if that is what you were thinking, Hobie sells a lot of kayaks, I'm a bit old school as to
preferring a paddle boat
[Edited on 4-2-2013 by sancho]
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Bwana_John
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I like kelp and playing in the rock gardens way too much to ever think about peddles.
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Vince
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I have had 2 Seda sea kayaks for about 20 years. They are the single, sit-in type. They are dry, I never use a skirt because I use them mostly in San
Diego Bay. I agree with the others that said buy 2 singles. My wife goes with me about 10-20% of the time. Double are too heavy for me, this becomes
more apparent as time goes by. Easy to fish out of also. Like you, I am curious about the Hobies, but I get enough biking in on land.
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RnR
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Hobie mirage drives are great. Keeps your hands free for other tasks - fishing, camera, beer, even waving is tough with a paddle in your hands, you
have to put it down and break your cadence to do ANYTHING.
Get two singles.
A tandem pretty much has to have two people in it to function properly. With one person in a tandem the paddling position is either forward or behind
the balance/turning point of the kayak. Sit in front and that kayak will go STRAIGHT. Sit in back and the front will be up in the air and the
slightest breeze will spin the boat around. Been there, done that.
Currently have one Hobie mirage drive and a sit-on-top. If I go fishing or out by myself, I use the Hobie. If two people go, the less experienced
person gets the Hobie.
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CortezBlue
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| Quote: | Originally posted by sancho
I paddle a single Necky 14', sit on top, a tandem would obviously
force you to paddle with someone, which to me,
would place restrictions on when you would use it.
Some tandems
you can paddle alone to some degree. Personally I would get 2 used kayaks off craigs list so you havesome
flexibility. I'm sure you could get 2 used for the
$ of a new Hobie, if that is what you were thinking, Hobie sells a lot of kayaks, I'm a bit old school as to
preferring a paddle boat
[Edited on 4-2-2013 by sancho] |
I have looked high and low in So Cal, and all of AZ on Craigslist and ebay, not a one Hobie to be found. I want Hobie for the Mirage drive system and
hands free operation.
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Alm
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| Quote: | Originally posted by CortezBlue
I have looked high and low in So Cal, and all of AZ on Craigslist and ebay, not a one Hobie to be found. I want Hobie for the Mirage drive system and
hands free operation. |
None to be found on resale - proves it's a small niche market.
Regular (=paddling) sit-on-tops have quite a wide niche. For beginners in warm waters, for fishing few miles offshore, particularly with a small
electric motor. Suggestion on using solar to recharge the battery was not serious, I hope. It will take all day with a fairly big 2x3 ft solar panel
to pump 40-60 Ah into battery, and motor will eat that much on one short trip to fishing hole and back.
Back to the topic.... There are pros and cons to wide SOT as opposed to "sea kayaks", and there are pros and cons to pedaling VS paddling. Maybe it's
time to reveal your goals - what exactly you need a kayak for, and why does it have to be hands free.
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Look for used Hobies on Bloodydecks.com. Or there are some Kayak fishing sites that may have a used one available. I found mine used on CL. It is an
Outback with mirage drive and sail. Paid $1k used but in good condition.
I have used mine for fishing and just cruising around. They come with paddles if you need to backup in a hurry. That is the one drawback IMO.
Otherwise it makes all other kayaks look obsolete.
BajaBuzz
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I would concur with the opinions about tandems. Whatever happens to one of you will concomitantly happen to the other, e.g., flipping. It will be
slower and a little more difficult to maneuver. One gets too tired or has less paddling skill, the other has double duty. More safety in two boats.
Also, if one of you wants to go out alone, you've got a pretty big boat to paddle by yourself. Depends on where you're going and what you want to use
it for.
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bajasammy
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We have a couple sit-on-top, and a couple hobies. Once anyone uses the hobie, they don't want to have anything to do with the others! I bought both
used off Craigs List, but had to search a bit. The hobies also really hold their value on the used market...
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Alm
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I wouldn't recommend an old polyethylene kayak, be it Hobie or any other. Unlike composite hulls, poly degrades under UV. In 5-8 years, depending on
the amount of exposure, it becomes brittle. You might not know it until incidentally hit the ground when unloading from the car or cart, and ops - the
bow chips off... Short lifespan of poly hulls is the reason why they depreciate faster than composites in a used market. Also, - oil canning, though
for wide slow hulls this is less important.
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