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[*] posted on 4-5-2013 at 09:32 AM
Valle de la Trinidad


Miles of tree covered roads in this area that is located just a little over an hour from San Felipe.



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[*] posted on 4-5-2013 at 09:57 AM


okay, I will bite,, where is this, how about a little map.

looks nice and cool for the summer months
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[*] posted on 4-5-2013 at 10:06 AM


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okay, I will bite,, where is this, how about a little map.

looks nice and cool for the summer months


Maybe not quite as cool as one would hope for. It's a big time dope growing region.
Gotta be careful out there.
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[*] posted on 4-5-2013 at 10:38 AM


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okay, I will bite,, where is this, how about a little map.

looks nice and cool for the summer months



Colonia Lázaro Card##as




It's right off Mex 3. A fantastic friendly town.....and a major agriculture area. I been been in this area hundreds of times and have yet seen any drug or violet activity. There are perhaps pot farms in the area....but then again...there are pot farms in San Diego..... to Ensenada..... too :-) Also....no speed traps...no traffic.

Most of the farms out there have welcome policy for visitors. There is a research center by the base of the mountain that is interesting as well. Nothing but lush green scenery .......the smell of fresh veggies from the fields....and some of the friendliest folks in The Baja.

In town....fuel is there. Many good places to eat too.

Weather is much cooler up here during the summer months......we have a friend that actually lives in San Felipe and has a "summer" house up there.










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[*] posted on 4-5-2013 at 11:42 AM


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I been been in this area hundreds of times and have yet seen any drug or violent activity.


Thing is, back in the 80s, before the cartels were killing off each other and the military wasn't so openly mobilized, they would send federal police to Ensenada from DF, armed to the teeth and housed in various back street motels around the city, away from the Tourist Zone.
They would leave the motels in the morning and return at the end of the day. During the day they would be over in Trinidad Valley fighting with the growers. I mean...war.
I had a buddy who lived in Centro, two doors down from one such motel. We never talked with the Federales and they never spoke with us. They were a quiet, well trained bunch.
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[*] posted on 4-5-2013 at 12:40 PM


:-) Certainly not like it was back then....in the 80's. I have yet seen a Fed in that valley. Few cops. I am sure if one hikes up the mountain valleys......or any valley of Baja that has water access.......there be evidence of pot plantations. Humboldt County up here, has the same thing going on. Fact is.....you'll hear warnings about hiking anywhere in the mountains of California. But......this post was not about hiking up the valleys nor the crime of the area. It's about a valley of a agriculture community.

There is evidence of crime in every town and city of THE Baja...................such as there is in Canada or THE United States. Should we hide under our desks or should we all use good common sense and enjoy the great outdoors of THE Baja?

There are MANY groups that goes up to that valley. Such as http://www.utvguide.net/trip_report_mexico_2008.htm

Perhaps I need to come down and pick you up, we can go scouting with a few beers in hand. 50/50 on the takes ?


Valle de la Trinidad marijuana bulbs being planted..........






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I been been in this area hundreds of times and have yet seen any drug or violent activity.


Thing is, back in the 80s, before the cartels were killing off each other and the military wasn't so openly mobilized, they would send federal police to Ensenada from DF, armed to the teeth and housed in various back street motels around the city, away from the Tourist Zone.
They would leave the motels in the morning and return at the end of the day. During the day they would be over in Trinidad Valley fighting with the growers. I mean...war.
I had a buddy who lived in Centro, two doors down from one such motel. We never talked with the Federales and they never spoke with us. They were a quiet, well trained bunch.





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[*] posted on 4-5-2013 at 01:07 PM
More on the valley














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[*] posted on 4-5-2013 at 01:10 PM


Looks like a beautiful place to me. This is one area of The Baja that I havent been to but plan on seeing someday.



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[*] posted on 4-5-2013 at 02:43 PM


There is an village up in the hills that do the black pottery.....and there are some great basket weavers too. Perhaps I should do a story on this area.

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[*] posted on 4-5-2013 at 05:37 PM


Looks like another place to add to the bucket list. JH
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[*] posted on 4-5-2013 at 06:17 PM


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There is an village up in the hills that do the black pottery.....and there are some great basket weavers too. Perhaps I should do a story on this area.

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Looks like a beautiful place to me. This is one area of The Baja that I havent been to but plan on seeing someday.



yes please do a story about this area
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[*] posted on 4-5-2013 at 06:49 PM


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There is an village up in the hills that do the black pottery.....and there are some great basket weavers too. Perhaps I should do a story on this area.

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Looks like a beautiful place to me. This is one area of The Baja that I havent been to but plan on seeing someday.


Hey man, do the story! I'm always looking for pottery and baskets to adorn the casa. Tell us about it. You know my wife will see the post and make me go in less than 2 weeks. =)




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[*] posted on 4-5-2013 at 07:04 PM


We always go through there on our way to mikes, great little town.
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[*] posted on 4-5-2013 at 07:17 PM


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There is an village up in the hills that do the black pottery.....and there are some great basket weavers too. Perhaps I should do a story on this area.



Are you sure about that, Deno? Black pottery is more often associated with Oaxaca:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barro_negro_pottery

Although I've never heard of a Black Pottery industry in Baja, I am aware of collectable pottery being made by the Pai Pai in their scattered settlements. not only have I heard about, I've been there and seen it. Beautiful work, not Black but brown with fire marks.
The settlement I've been to was closer to Ojos Negros than Valle de Trinidad.
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[*] posted on 4-5-2013 at 07:37 PM


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There is an village up in the hills that do the black pottery.....and there are some great basket weavers too. Perhaps I should do a story on this area.



Are you sure about that, Deno? Black pottery is more often associated with Oaxaca:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barro_negro_pottery

Although I've never heard of a Black Pottery industry in Baja, I am aware of collectable pottery being made by the Pai Pai in their scattered settlements. not only have I heard about, I've been there and seen it. Beautiful work, not Black but brown with fire marks.
The settlement I've been to was closer to Ojos Negros than Valle de Trinidad.




I'll be compiling all of my pictures of the last 12 years of the area......including the village(s) up in hills of Valle de la Trinidad.

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[*] posted on 4-5-2013 at 08:07 PM


I agree about the beauty of the area but one must also be aware of his or her surroundings:

....The commander also announced that a military ground patrol found marijuana fields covering 2.1 acres in the Valle de la Trinidad, south of Ensenada. He said the fields were incinerated.
http://www.sandiegored.com/noticias/17624/Military-makes-Hum...

It seems anywhere north of San Quintin is fair game. But I agree with McFez, check out this area if you get a chance.




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[*] posted on 4-5-2013 at 08:18 PM


Wish I bumped into this farm :-) ....but it was closer to Ensenada .

Here's a little of what's in the area
http://travelingluck.com/North%20America/Mexico/Baja%20Calif...




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I agree about the beauty of the area but one must also be aware of his or her surroundings:

....The commander also announced that a military ground patrol found marijuana fields covering 2.1 acres in the Valle de la Trinidad, south of Ensenada. He said the fields were incinerated.
http://www.sandiegored.com/noticias/17624/Military-makes-Hum...

It seems anywhere north of San Quintin is fair game. But I agree with McFez, check out this area if you get a chance.




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[*] posted on 4-7-2013 at 07:02 AM


Mcfez, how often do you get down here ? I am here for another six weeks I'd like to meet you and go some of these places. I've been thru Valley of Trinidad on way back from Mikes and on my way to Pacific side.. Try to go all dirt roads
Ill by the first shrimp taco and beer
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[*] posted on 4-7-2013 at 10:00 AM


I wont be there till Oct 1 ....am stuck here on the farm for the rest of year. However.....I'd be honored to have you or anyone else who may wish to join us .....do a 3-4 day run through out the valley. Four wheel vehicle is NOT required........good jokes are required :-)

Since you are down there already..........the best way way I gather really cool information on sites to explore is to ask the old timers of San Felipe....."where's a good spot to hit"?

Baja Lou used to tell me of wonderful spots that were off the normal path. At our Campos in SF.....we have a large group of old times that are 70 plus years of age....have lived in SF for 20 plus years. They are a gold mine of information of great unknown spots :-)

There are a half of dozen GREAT areas to explore that is within 90 minutes of San Felipe. One can spend weeks finding new stuff in these areas. One example of such an area is Rio Hardy! OMG! The best kept secret of THE Baja.

Rio Hardy is an vast area that consists of native tribe that is super cool to visit, hunting and fishing , water sports......hot springs and vents, historic sites, villages and ranches......the list is endless. Again......weeks of exploration is there.

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[*] posted on 4-8-2013 at 06:45 AM


I think I might have to go up to rio hardy and check it out. I saw some pictures... It looks pretty nice. My addidition is almost done so I have some time to play and explore. I know some old timers but most of them remember the places but don't remember how to get to them anymore.
Pumkin rock is one I have heard about but no ome seems to remember how to get there.
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