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1942 Pole Line Road: [INTRO]>>Wrong Way Enmedio Canyon






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[*] posted on 7-13-2013 at 07:27 AM


What got Neal Johns searching...



The Lower California Guidebook by Gerhard & Gulick 1956-1970 editions/ printings. Revised for the new paved/ graded roads as 'The Baja California Guidebook by Gulick & Wheelock 1975-1980 editions.







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[*] posted on 7-14-2013 at 08:00 AM


Map close up of Pole Line Road from Howard Gulick, Lower California Guidebook, first appeared as passable in the 1962 edition:





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[*] posted on 7-14-2013 at 03:41 PM


So far no one has traveled in the direction of construction. Everyone wants to go from the bottom of the summit to the east. Are there no adventure minded ones wanting to go in the east to west direction? whats the matter can't you find the road as shown above? So easy yet so far.
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So far no one has traveled in the direction of construction. Everyone wants to go from the bottom of the summit to the east. Are there no adventure minded ones wanting to go in the east to west direction? whats the matter can't you find the road as shown above? So easy yet so far.


It is interesting that all of Neal's and Ken's trips seem to have started at the base of the summit road (Portezuelo de Jamau) and then headed east... usually leaving the old road at Arroyo Grande or sooner.

How do you know that they built from San Felipe towards Ensenada, instead of towards San Felipe? If you have any history on the road or phone line construction, I would love to see it! I have only found some posts on the various U.S. radar stations and airfields we built in Baja in 1942.

You know who is a big fan of this road? 'The squarecircle'! Roy, are you out there???




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[*] posted on 7-14-2013 at 07:57 PM


Basketball hill would be nicer going down (west) but the bowling ball switchbacks towards the east side might be a challenge to go up.
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Pole Line Road from space...




Summit to Hwy. 5 on two maps:

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[*] posted on 7-15-2013 at 02:15 PM


I have over it E/W TW, and the first hill is a bear.
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[*] posted on 7-15-2013 at 03:45 PM


Thanks, if anyone could have it would have been you.

Back in the early 90s we rode motocycles over the PLR but not up basketball hill, didn't know about it then, and over a hill into a wash to the north then road out to the main wash. We didn't reconnect with the PLR section that went over the bad hill but stayed in the wash past the bad hill then rejoined the PLR to Arroyo Grande. I wonder if the wash is good enough for a 4 wheel vehicle to bypass the bad hill. Time to start planning.

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So far no one has traveled in the direction of construction. Everyone wants to go from the bottom of the summit to the east. Are there no adventure minded ones wanting to go in the east to west direction? whats the matter can't you find the road as shown above? So easy yet so far.


It can be done. Trouble is, the new GATE might be closed, requiring you to backtrack and hopefully not run into gasoline supply issues - if the persons at the ranch nearest the new GATE would not be willing and/or able to let you through...

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[*] posted on 7-16-2013 at 07:46 AM


i wonder if a quad could be used with x-tra gasoline tanks.
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i wonder if a quad could be used with x-tra gasoline tanks.


What is the mileage range of a quad w/o extra gasoline tanks?




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So far no one has traveled in the direction of construction. Everyone wants to go from the bottom of the summit to the east. Are there no adventure minded ones wanting to go in the east to west direction? whats the matter can't you find the road as shown above? So easy yet so far.


It can be done. Trouble is, the new GATE might be closed, requiring you to backtrack and hopefully not run into gasoline supply issues - if the persons at the ranch nearest the new GATE would not be willing and/or able to let you through...

GATES in Baja?? I hate the idea, too...


Where is the gate?
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So far no one has traveled in the direction of construction. Everyone wants to go from the bottom of the summit to the east. Are there no adventure minded ones wanting to go in the east to west direction? whats the matter can't you find the road as shown above? So easy yet so far.


It can be done. Trouble is, the new GATE might be closed, requiring you to backtrack and hopefully not run into gasoline supply issues - if the persons at the ranch nearest the new GATE would not be willing and/or able to let you through...

GATES in Baja?? I hate the idea, too...


Where is the gate?


The new metal gate is located at the trail entrance just off of the Summit Road.




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[*] posted on 7-16-2013 at 01:14 PM


There were some guys working on a fence around the entrance area when we went through last year---didn't know they were putting up a gate too.
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[*] posted on 7-16-2013 at 02:41 PM


Maybe it's to keep cattle in or out and maybe for a few $$ he'll let people pass. Maybe I'll check it out in Sept. at the NORRA race with CODE since rumor has it coming down the El Mono trail. But they may come over the summit instead.
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[*] posted on 7-16-2013 at 07:43 PM


Now I'd like to see a race going down El Mano!
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[*] posted on 7-17-2013 at 01:17 PM


Mexitron, Yep, if they race down El Mano, someone will get hurt.



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[*] posted on 7-17-2013 at 03:22 PM


SCORE used it in the 1996 or 1997 Baja 1000 race.
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