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BajaNomad
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San Javier Cave Paintings washed away by Ivo.
From Mike Younghusband:
"To all my Loreto and Baja California friends. A little sad news. After hundreds of years the San Javier Cave paintings are gone. (first pic) The wall
they were on is also missing. The damage from the recent storms is devastating."
(click the picture for full resolution)
"The road to San Javier is destroyed. (second pic) Nothing can get through. Heavy equip is parked close to the area with not much in the way of
options."
(click the picture for full resolution)
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rts551
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too bad. Think that nice new road made so everyone can enjoy the wonders of Baja might have contributed to the paintings demise?
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Thanks Doug, thank you Mike.
Wow, after all these years . . .
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MikeYounghusband
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Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
too bad. Think that nice new road made so everyone can enjoy the wonders of Baja might have contributed to the paintings demise?
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These last two storms seemed to come straight through San Javier. Much more than usual. Hope the road is open soon and I hope the people of San Javier
are safe and dry. Looks like they got hit pretty hard. I will let you know as soon as I know.
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BajaGeoff
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Wow. That is crazy....
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desertcpl
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that's just terrible
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rts551
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Quote: | Originally posted by MikeYounghusband
Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
too bad. Think that nice new road made so everyone can enjoy the wonders of Baja might have contributed to the paintings demise?
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These last two storms seemed to come straight through San Javier. Much more than usual. Hope the road is open soon and I hope the people of San Javier
are safe and dry. Looks like they got hit pretty hard. I will let you know as soon as I know. |
Mike I hope everyone is OK in San Javier as well. The Paintings have weathered storms (and some people) for hundreds of years. What is different
this year?
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BajaNomad
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From the Juliette thread:
Quote: | Originally posted by tehag
Ivo did this on Saturday/Sunday last. I'm guessing it will be closed for a while.
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desertcpl
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holly crap
what are they going to do with the people in San Javier
they could be cut off for a long time
is there a back way in, other than just a trail?
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David K
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Yes, two other roads plus trails.
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desertcpl
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thanks Dk
boy that looks just awful
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Sad
Even though it has been 15 years ago and in a Dodge mini van since we made that trip, I will never forget the wonderful
adventure it was to get there. Hoping the best for those living there. So sorry to hear about the loss of the paintings.
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That washed out road picture is likely the one you can drive to, with a few other ones further up the road.
Reminds me of a time in the late 80's, early 90's when a storm devastated this road and it took a long time before you could reach SJ. And then only
with lots of road only one way, with the road collapsing into the canyon next to my truck. Scary, with no way to turn back.
[Edited on 8-29-2013 by vandenberg]
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This is sickening. On a drive south only a little over a week ago boe4fun drove me through there. We went up the front from Loreto and drove out the
back way. I was truly amazed by the quaint little town they have way out there and the mission grounds. Paul stopped to show me the cave paintings, I
hadn't even been aware of their existence. It's so sad that I may have seen them in their final days. What a loss. On our way out the back we
criss-crossed the river bed over twenty times. Only got the tires wet once. We talked about what it must be like when it was raging and that it would
be impossible to get through. I really feel sorry for the people of SJ. We were surprised that the road from Loreto was paved all the way, although it
certainly had some nasty washouts and undercutting. It seemed relatively easy to make the trip and now this. I hope they get access for the residents
soon.
John
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I am grateful that we went at the beginning of the year ... Those cave paintings were in their own way, very special, i really liked going there.
Sure hope the people in SJ are hanging in there.
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Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
Quote: | Originally posted by MikeYounghusband
Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
too bad. Think that nice new road made so everyone can enjoy the wonders of Baja might have contributed to the paintings demise?
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These last two storms seemed to come straight through San Javier. Much more than usual. Hope the road is open soon and I hope the people of San Javier
are safe and dry. Looks like they got hit pretty hard. I will let you know as soon as I know. |
Mike I hope everyone is OK in San Javier as well. The Paintings have weathered storms (and some people) for hundreds of years. What is different
this year? |
Climate change!!
bacquito
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Similar view of the caves before the storm. Looks like what might be left of the paintings is under several feet of river bed.
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rts551
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Quote: | Originally posted by bacquito
Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
Quote: | Originally posted by MikeYounghusband
Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
too bad. Think that nice new road made so everyone can enjoy the wonders of Baja might have contributed to the paintings demise?
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These last two storms seemed to come straight through San Javier. Much more than usual. Hope the road is open soon and I hope the people of San Javier
are safe and dry. Looks like they got hit pretty hard. I will let you know as soon as I know. |
Mike I hope everyone is OK in San Javier as well. The Paintings have weathered storms (and some people) for hundreds of years. What is different
this year? |
Climate change!! |
and I would be willing to bet the new road changed the course of the wash that runs down the arroyo.
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David K
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Why taking photos of historic sites is so important to preserve them before Nature or Man removes them.
Here our my photos at the site from July, 2009:
Baja Angel next to protective railing at cave art site.
Truck is in parking spot, next to highway, as seen from cave art site.
The highway from above and west of the cave art.
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David K
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More...
Here are more that have never been posted before, from that same trip:
Compare the above photo with the new one from Mike Younghusband... It appears that the site is covered by gravel and may still be there once the
gravel is removed.
[Edited on 8-30-2013 by David K]
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