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JoeJustJoe
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Quote: Originally posted by soulpatch  | | Quote: Originally posted by MrBillM | ".......So there are at lease two other issues........"
Whose name is on the lease ?
Does Joe know the answer ? |
No, but he will analyze the flock out of any thing posted and demand empirical evidence.
And, he will post about things he has heard about and post it as fact, especially when it comes to behavior and logic.
Man, sorry, couldn't help myself..... all gods, please forgive me.
I hope the Patton family finds peace in this some way. It is a hell of a thing. |
Hey Soulpatch, did I question when you claimed to run out of your house naked 200 yards, chasing a thief and catching him by your teeth on the fence.
I only told you, I was surprised, that you weren't arrested for indecent exposure, regardless the reason why you were out in the neighborhood naked,
according to your story.
No I'm not looking for deep "empirical evidence," nor do I consider myself, a conspiracy theorists. I'm just asking people, to use a bit of common
sense, especially in regards to the PI, and his team.
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Floatflyer
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Location: Whidbey Island, WA
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This sums up this entire thread=
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MrBillM
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As Joe Says ................
Repeatedly above:
".........I am at a lost.........."
Improperly worded (as usual), but SO true.
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wessongroup
Platinum Nomad
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Registered: 8-9-2009
Location: Mission Viejo
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Mood: Suicide Hot line ... please hold
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EnsenadaDr
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Registered: 9-12-2011
Location: Baja California
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Mood: Move on. It is just a chapter in the past, but don't close the book- just turn the page
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We need to forget, yet the circumstances surrounding Gary's disappearance still deserve to be remembered as coming up this September 3rd will mark the
two year anniversary that Gary disappeared. The effort and thought that went into trying to brainstorm and solve the disappearance truly still amazes
me as so many tried to help from their various roosting spots in Baja. As all seemed lost, the appearance of his truck with his last few meals still
in tact after 6 months was truly an amazing twist to the story. It was a fascinating truer than life scenario, yet the sad part was that it was real
life and that there was no happy ending. I would like to offer my condolences to the Patton family and wish that one day we will find out what
happened to Gary to bring closure to this terrible tragedy.The Nomads certainly did their best to assist and I want to thank them all as well. For
those that believe in God, let's offer a moment in prayer for the family and friends that knew and loved him and that they will know a peaceful
ending. | Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe |
Those aren't nice words to use against fellow forum members Baja Blanca.
I'm at a lost why so many forum members don't challenge a few things Baja Blanca is saying in her last couple of posts.
I don't know if people are just trying to be nice, and are just scared of being attacked as being insensitive, or that I took a wrong turn four
years ago, and I'm in the Twilight zone where everything is reverse, and that up is really down, and right is wrong, and so on.
Forums are stupid places where members shoot the breeze and give opinions. People shouldn't be afraid to give your opinion, even if it's unpopular,
and if its' a subject involving death, there should be grieving period, but even that period has to end sometime.
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David K
Honored Nomad
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Location: San Diego County
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So, it's been just over two years since Gary vanished and right now (Sept. 16, 2015) a new thread on Nomad is being altered to protect descriptions of
where three surfers were stuck and had no Spot or DeLorme device... or satellite phone... to ease the worries of family members or get help (if
needed). Is someone's life not more important than secrets?
Actually, the location of the Seven Sisters is only a secret in their minds. Nobody is making anyone tell the exact beach they like, but maps and
Google Earth shows all the roads surfers use. Let's hope rescue is not prevented over any fear of revealing a place where one rides a wave!
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SFandH
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At the request of the three surfers.
They don't want people to know where they were.
Ok with me and probably every other surfer who reads this message board.
[Edited on 9-16-2015 by SFandH]
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David K
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People's lives are more important than where someone went surfing.... but silly me for expressing such a ridiculous thing, right?
At least quote the full sentence I wrote:
"So, it's been just over two years since Gary vanished and right now (Sept. 16, 2015) a new thread on Nomad is being altered to protect descriptions
of where three surfers were stuck and had no Spot or DeLorme device... or satellite phone... to ease the worries of family members or get help (if
needed). Is someone's life not more important than secrets?"
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SFandH
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K |
At least quote the full sentence I wrote:
"So, it's been just over two years since Gary vanished and right now (Sept. 16, 2015) a new thread on Nomad is being altered to protect descriptions
of where three surfers were stuck and had no Spot or DeLorme device... or satellite phone... to ease the worries of family members or get help (if
needed). Is someone's life not more important than secrets?" |
OK
At the request of the three surfers.
They don't want people to know where they were.
Ok with me and probably every other surfer who reads this message board.
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David K
Honored Nomad
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Location: San Diego County
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Actually, I have surfing Nomad friends who think it is ridiculous the amount of hype by (about 3) surfers here put on secret places in a well-known
region. It is the bad roads that keep out most, not any secrets.
Altering or deleting threads to remove anything is fine with me, but to say why, is what had me chuckling.
Thank you for understanding.
Lives come first!
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motoged
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Location: Kamloops, BC
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David,
You need to understand that some folks forget that you are always right.
Adventure has its risks....
Don't believe everything you think....
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Enrique2012
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David, your logic is sound. Secrecy over well-being (especially when it comes to something as trivial as a surfing spot) is foolish. However, I
believe it's a mistake to turn your back on Darwin's theory - the stupid will die off (except here in America where we protect them and place them in
high positions of power).
I no longer worry about such people. If you're willing to die to keep your surfing location secret - adios. Millions will follow down the same stupid
path, the sun will rise, and I will continue on with my day. If I worried about every fool and their foolish decisions I would probably be out
campaigning for Hillary.
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David K
Honored Nomad
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Location: San Diego County
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Thank you Enrique!
There is a large gap in perceptions here. That along with personal needs or just entertainment have all sorts of replies flying about.
I like to think of Nomad as both a campfire conversation where people with different beliefs can freely discuss things and leave as friends, as well
as an information source for traveling to Baja or studying its past.
For some reason, a few are here for drama and have to make snide remarks or insults to get a fix? Posting a photo that shows how false the populist
notion that sea levels are dangerously higher than ever sure has them worked up, and with no photo from them showing the opposite is true!
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pauldavidmena
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Location: Centerville, MA, USA
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An interesting conundrum for sure. Americans sure do love their privacy, but we're speaking of a public safety issue, not to mention a family's peace
of mind. Are those concerns somehow less important than the need to keep a secret?
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SFandH
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Registered: 8-5-2011
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| Quote: Originally posted by Enrique2012 | | David, your logic is sound. Secrecy over well-being (especially when it comes to something as trivial as a surfing spot) is foolish.
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Removing the posts that explained where those guys were surfing does not in any way jeopardize the well being of anybody.
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motoged
Elite Nomad
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Location: Kamloops, BC
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This is not a surfer issue as much as a "getting stuck" and folks worrying when we don't call/arrive when expected.
Boy ....it will get interesting when the next motorcyclist shares their favourite tracks in Baja....oh....Casey Smith already did that....Bill Nichols
didn't have a conniption fit when she publicized his "private" Baja tracks, but they ride together.
Up here in the frozen wastelands....I discourage folks from sharing GPS tracks of my favourite tracks (that many others found themselves
somehow)....but , then again, I might have been a 'surfer" had our family stayed in California when I was four to five (California for two
years)...
No secret places....just those that many folks don't know about.....yet.
Don't believe everything you think....
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BajaBlanca
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Location: La Bocana, BCS
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Two years is a long time. Where did you end up Sr. Gary?
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LVPatton
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Gary’s remains coming stateside today.
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elgatoloco
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RIP
MAGA
Making Attorneys Get Attorneys
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Mexitron
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Registered: 9-21-2003
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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Mood: Happy!
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I must have missed something, he was found after all?
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