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David K
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The rancher also may want to be not 'blamed' for not seeing the 4Runner (not a truck) for several months... not that it's his responsibility for that.
If it was 400 meters up a side wash from the auto track, close to 2 kms. from the graded road, it may have never been spotted. Lucky that it was. Why
he took the effort to pull it out is weird. I still would like to know where his ranch was in relation to the 4Runner.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Between Kms 116 and 117 (37 miles south from El Rosario's Pemex station).
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Right here:
http://goo.gl/maps/VeQ8d
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| Quote: | Originally posted by absinvestor
Hook- makes no sense that he would have headed up to where the truck was found to camp. Too far off the beaten track. |
I would disagree. As this is a very common practice, and is one of the most likely reasons put forth thus far to explain the vehicle location as we
understand it.
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Hook
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Well, at least this sets to rest the idea that he never even left San Quintin, right?
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Hook
Yes it does.
As I also stated the pictures will tell a story.
The landscape pics, if taken after the memorial shot, may provide further tracking.
Gary being with the 4 Runner when it got stuck still doesn't add up, based on the ranchers timeline.
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Hook
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| Quote: | Originally posted by absinvestor
SkipjackJoe-agreed. Hook- makes no sense that he would have headed up to where the truck was found to camp. Too far off the beaten track.
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Well, then I make no sense when I am camping, 'cause I do that a lot.
I dont want to camp by the side of a main thoroughfare that everyone must come through on their way to the main destination in the area; the ocean. I
like privacy. Maybe he does, too.
[Edited on 4-18-2014 by Hook]
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Well when he stopped off to take that picture, depending if the landscape pictures come before or after, that is where he could have met his fate.
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Hook
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| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
Well when he stopped off to take that picture, depending if the landscape pictures come before or after, that is where he could have met his fate.
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Yeah, and that also COULD have been where he took a crap.
Coulda, woulda, shoulda...........your speculations are either irrelevant or so far off-base as to cloud the discussion.
I dont care if you feel I'm being petty. You're becoming an impediment to the discussion, Doctor. THINK things through before you post and post from a
position of knowledge. You have made false assumptions on geography, on the motivations of fishermen, on the motivations of surfers and the
motivations of camping..........and I'm left feeling you know nothing about any of those.
Sometimes less is more...............
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At the beginning of this thread, it was mentioned he had cameras, plural. If there is another camera, it may provide more location clues
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Remember George Michaels? Assaults often happen in rest stops off of highways. You are an impediment Hook by saying things that aren't true like
Gary got a late start in SQ. You don't have YOUR facts straight. Yet I don't jump down your throat for screwing up the information. Let's realize
no one knows where Gary is, and until they have the solution to his disappearance, I don't think they can afford to criticize the ideas of others.
Someone else accused me of saying that I was making up the hour of departure from San Quintin, yet LL clearly said it was 6 am. So before you start
throwing stones at me, you guys get YOUR facts straight. Just sayin'.
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He had two cameras and only one was viewed.
Additional cards COULD have been used in second camera.
( I don't think Gary had been camping for 6 months after leaving SQ Sept 5th)
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| Quote: | Originally posted by SoCalPattonCrew
- The camera had one photo of the trucker accident monument, somewhere along Hwy 1 south after El Rosario (?), and it was dated September 5th,
2013. Two other pics taken that same day were nondescript horizons. Because our guys (my son and his uncle) could not search through the vehicle
when they were there, any chance of a photo card in the truck is still TBD; and, these date stamps will be verified again as well;
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Why would Gary remove a new memory card from his camera and insert an old one?
We can be reasonably certain that Gary did not take more pictures after the 9/5 date frame.
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(1) No time spent in Canoa surfing
(2) No 4 months spent in baja after 9/5
Gary probably never even reached the coast. |
[Edited on 4-18-2014 by tripledigitken]
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There is more conjecture than facts in this thread.
| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
Remember George Michaels? Assaults often happen in rest stops off of highways. You are an impediment Hook by saying things that aren't true like
Gary got a late start in SQ. You don't have YOUR facts straight. Yet I don't jump down your throat for screwing up the information. Let's realize
no one knows where Gary is, and until they have the solution to his disappearance, I don't think they can afford to criticize the ideas of others.
Someone else accused me of saying that I was making up the hour of departure from San Quintin, yet LL clearly said it was 6 am. So before you start
throwing stones at me, you guys get YOUR facts straight. Just sayin'. |
[Edited on 4-18-2014 by tripledigitken]
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Another idea would be to stop at that monument and look around.
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Geez Doc......give it up.....
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I happen to think it's a good idea. Hey another good idea, especially on this Easter weekend is to stop ridiculing and belittling someone for coming
up with ideas. I don't get sarcastic when someone has an idea and belittle them. Peace on Earth good will to mankind, hey remember guys, Gary is
either seriously hurt or he's not with us anymore. Appreciate the fact that you are alive and respect your fellow man or woman. At least on this
Good Friday/Passover weekend, let's cool it with the cheap shots. Yes, Chuckie give it up, Brother.
[Edited on 4-18-2014 by EnsenadaDr]
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Jeeezo........someone fire up the Nomad Hookah. 
"YOU CAN'T LITTER ALUMINUM"
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Hey Dennis, you have a great Easter with you and yours. I don't like Hookah the smoke bothers me. But i might be coerced into a Pina colada!!
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I believe some Nomads knew Gary from prior trips. Personally if I was camping alone I would prefer to be in a less remote spot than where the Truck
was found-Hook and others, on the other hand, would prefer to camp more remotely.( I was guessing that because Gary liked to talk and visit with
others and not a loner type he would be more likely to camp where others might be.) Do any Nomads that knew him from prior trips have any thoughts as
to what type of camping Gary enjoyed? Also, we can hope that there are other pictures on the second camera-many people use different cameras for
different type pictures.
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From what I've read Gary didn't seem the type to drive a 2WD truck up a remote canyon with apparently no road up it. That's what I would do, but I
have 4WD and like exploring.
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During my baja travels I always drive off any road for the night. Far enough so that the lights from neither my campfire nor the camper can be seen
from the. I do have a 4WD now but did it with a 2WD previously by picking dirt roads judiciously.
The 2km road which I think I'm seeing in GE is pretty distinct. The side turn after that looks 'sketchy' (today's vernacular). I always figured that
Gary just misjudged the softness of the sediment. That can happen to anyone. The best camping spots in such areas are the washes. You have clean sand,
nearby rocks, and deadwood for campfire. Plus you are protected visually because they are often a bit lower (erosion).
Given the report drug activity in the area it's not surprising that he didn't camp right off that main road but was more cautious. Most of us would do
that.
Again it's really hard to make really solid conclusions without seeing the place.
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