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Steve&Debby
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Guadalupe Canyon
I am looking for maps or GPS readings to go from San Felipe to Guadalupe Canyon. How long does it take to get there from San Felipe
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David K
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They are in my Viva Baja GPS web page. Make sure you convert the map datum of the list (NAD27) to WGS84 as you enter the numbers...
It will be faster to go around on the highways to the top of Laguna Salada however... The SCORE road across from the sand dunes on Hwy. 5 to Cohabuzo
Jcn. is very rough and deep silt the west section from the lower Laguna Salada area.
http://www.vivabaja.com/GPS/
This is from north to south (and west to east):
Map Datum NAD27 Mexico:
Guadalupe Canyon Entrance: 32°09.40'/ 115°47.29'
Cohabuzo Jcn: 31°55.74'/ 115°36.22'
Ej. Saldana Road (S): 31°50.12'/ 115°19.47'
Hwy. 5 & Ej. Saldana Jcn: 31°51.75'/ 115°10.92'
Note: the new widening of Hwy 5 has altered the junction to Ejido Saldaña
[Edited on 9-30-2013 by David K]
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Ken Cooke
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<Thread Hijack> Is Guadalupe Canyon open for business? I'd like to bring my 4WD group there in November.
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David K
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Following other reports, Arturo's (the nice campo with privacy, we all have camped at) remains without hot water (which was shut off as the source
spring is above Arturo's part of the canyon... forcing people who seek hot water in their camps, to camp at his 'brother's family' camp sites above or
across the canyon from Arturo's.
Would love any fresh reports, naturally... one posted recently with a nice You Tube video showed the canyon deserted!!??
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Ken Cooke
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I'm willing to check it out on the November Pole Line Run before we camp out that evening in Cohabuzo Junction.
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BeemerDan
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According to their facebook page they opened Sept 20th.
I'm thinking of riding out there when I cross at Calexico around Oct 10th
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David K
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Their FB page, being which campo?
Here is the original web page: http://www.guadalupe-canyon.com/ (no longer for Arturo's reservations)
Here are some of our past Guadalupe Canyon Hot Springs trips (to Arturo's Campo #1) before his family shut him down (to try and get his customers)
These are either my photo web sites for a trip or my posts on Nomad. Some of the Nomad older posts have no photos, any more... Doug says they will be
back, some day:
Oct. 2008: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=35050
Jan. 2008: http://vivabaja.com/108
Sept. 2006: http://vivabaja.com/906
Nov. 2005: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=14020
Apr. 2005: http://vivabaja.com/405
Mar. 2004: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=8411
Jun. 2003: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=8494
Nov. 2001: http://www.vivabaja.com/bbbb2
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BeemerDan
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David,
I'm still a newb to Baja, and don't know all the places, but found this on FB awhile back.
www.facebook.com/guadalupe.canyon
I have no idea, but thought it was the same place you were talking about
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David K
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Hi Dan, thank you... there are 3 (at least) campos in the canyon, and each campo has many camp sites. I thought you already looked at the site and may
have known which it was for. No worries.
The campo we always went to was Arturo's... the original campo there and the only one with true private campsites and hot tubs built in the
boulders... It was an epic place and not going to be easy to duplicate. The hot spring is above/ outside of Arturo's section so the family simply shut
off the pipe that went from the spring to Arturo's campo.
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David K
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Please give us a trip report and photos to see what the other campos look like now... we miss the place... been 5 years almost!
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BAJACAT
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I will be going at the end of this month..Has been 7 yrs for me,I want to go back...I will stay at los Manantiales..
BAJA IS WHAT YOU WANTED TO BE, FUN,DANGEROUS,INCREDIBLE, REMOTE, EXOTIC..JUST GO AND HAVE FUN.....
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DavidE
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A really pretty area. I enjoyed it, but I think Gerald Ford was president then.
A Lot To See And A Lot To Do
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BAJACAT
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David,did you see Ernestos website, shows that he has 5 of Arturos camps for rent,El Castillo, El Dorado,El Sol,El Mirador and my favorite San
Marcos,but they are not cheap..
BAJA IS WHAT YOU WANTED TO BE, FUN,DANGEROUS,INCREDIBLE, REMOTE, EXOTIC..JUST GO AND HAVE FUN.....
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David K
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Quote: | Originally posted by BAJACAT
David,did you see Ernestos website, shows that he has 5 of Arturos camps for rent,El Castillo, El Dorado,El Sol,El Mirador and my favorite San
Marcos,but they are not cheap.. |
Give me a link please... edit: found the site, and I see they have Arturo's map but call it Don Jose's Campo 1 now? Also, in the reservation
list are only a couple of Campo 1 sites listed... ?) http://guadalupecanyonoasis.com/
Maybe Arturo died or just moved to Mexicali to live out his remaining years in poverty? I am not real anxious to support any family member of his that
would do such a thing... Maybe I will email Canyonman Rob (Arturo's son-in-law) for the low down?
[Edited on 10-7-2013 by David K]
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BAJACAT
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David I got and e-mail from ernesto, he tells me he owns those 5 camp sites now.And you can rent them from him..
PS. go to maps it shows all the hot tubs...
[Edited on 10-8-2013 by BAJACAT]
BAJA IS WHAT YOU WANTED TO BE, FUN,DANGEROUS,INCREDIBLE, REMOTE, EXOTIC..JUST GO AND HAVE FUN.....
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David K
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So what happened to Arturo, and his rights? Sick and forced away, or dead???
It was Arturo's camp that brought tourists and money there... after lots of hard work by his son-in-law Canyonman Rob, tub builder John Nelson,
Hotschott and others.
Jealous relatives hopped on the wagon and developed other parts of the canyon... and when Arturo's kept getting the most business (because it is way
nicer), the brother, nephew, cousin (?) turned off the water (the source spring is just outside of Arturo's section of the canyon.
I have asked some questions and will report back if there are any answers from the Loya Family sent to me.
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BAJACAT
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I guess I will find out in my next visit.
BAJA IS WHAT YOU WANTED TO BE, FUN,DANGEROUS,INCREDIBLE, REMOTE, EXOTIC..JUST GO AND HAVE FUN.....
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David K
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Thanks José! I wish we could go to... Do you want to see the petroglyphs at La Vibora Canyon, a few miles south?
PHOTOS: http://vivabaja.com/108/
Guadalupe Canyon to La Vibora Canyon (8 miles)
0.0 Arturo's Camp, La Paloma & La Jolla road
2.2 Take right fork. Left is main road back to highway
2.8 Turn sharp right onto track heading south
7.5 Take road to right that drops steeply into arroyo
8.0 End of road, park for petroglyph and metate hike
GPS at end of road: 32°06.733', 115°44.612' (map datum NAD27 Mexico)
Allow 3 hours for the drive and hike.
edited to fix typo, thank you MMc
[Edited on 10-10-2013 by David K]
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MMc
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Your need to shine is more important then saving Baja historical sites? That is amazing.
None of the comments on this thread had any long tern impact?
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=36856&pag...
Send the turn by turn and GPS points via U2U.
Pertoglyphs is Petroglyphs
"Never teach a pig to sing it frustrates you and annoys the pig" - W.C.Fields
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David K
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People seeing and photographing these sites IS preserving them. Once the idiots deface them or nature erases them, then they are gone.
It is peoples photographs of historic sites that preserves them... and fyi, that web page and GPS list has been posted on the Internet since Jan.
2008. So, it is not new news.
It is the unknown places that aren't saved on photos that risk being lost forever. The pertos and pictos were made by people, for people, and people
should see them.
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