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[*] posted on 9-29-2013 at 11:45 AM
Guadalupe Canyon


I am looking for maps or GPS readings to go from San Felipe to Guadalupe Canyon. How long does it take to get there from San Felipe
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[*] posted on 9-29-2013 at 05:32 PM


They are in my Viva Baja GPS web page. Make sure you convert the map datum of the list (NAD27) to WGS84 as you enter the numbers...

It will be faster to go around on the highways to the top of Laguna Salada however... The SCORE road across from the sand dunes on Hwy. 5 to Cohabuzo Jcn. is very rough and deep silt the west section from the lower Laguna Salada area.

http://www.vivabaja.com/GPS/

This is from north to south (and west to east):

Map Datum NAD27 Mexico:

Guadalupe Canyon Entrance: 32°09.40'/ 115°47.29'
Cohabuzo Jcn: 31°55.74'/ 115°36.22'
Ej. Saldana Road (S): 31°50.12'/ 115°19.47'
Hwy. 5 & Ej. Saldana Jcn: 31°51.75'/ 115°10.92'


Note: the new widening of Hwy 5 has altered the junction to Ejido Saldaña



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[*] posted on 9-29-2013 at 09:22 PM


<Thread Hijack> Is Guadalupe Canyon open for business? I'd like to bring my 4WD group there in November.



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[*] posted on 9-29-2013 at 09:35 PM


Following other reports, Arturo's (the nice campo with privacy, we all have camped at) remains without hot water (which was shut off as the source spring is above Arturo's part of the canyon... forcing people who seek hot water in their camps, to camp at his 'brother's family' camp sites above or across the canyon from Arturo's.

Would love any fresh reports, naturally... one posted recently with a nice You Tube video showed the canyon deserted!!?? :wow:




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[*] posted on 9-29-2013 at 09:38 PM


I'm willing to check it out on the November Pole Line Run before we camp out that evening in Cohabuzo Junction.



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[*] posted on 9-30-2013 at 12:40 PM


According to their facebook page they opened Sept 20th.
I'm thinking of riding out there when I cross at Calexico around Oct 10th
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[*] posted on 9-30-2013 at 01:55 PM


Their FB page, being which campo?

Here is the original web page: http://www.guadalupe-canyon.com/ (no longer for Arturo's reservations)

Here are some of our past Guadalupe Canyon Hot Springs trips (to Arturo's Campo #1) before his family shut him down (to try and get his customers)
These are either my photo web sites for a trip or my posts on Nomad. Some of the Nomad older posts have no photos, any more... Doug says they will be back, some day:

Oct. 2008: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=35050
Jan. 2008: http://vivabaja.com/108
Sept. 2006: http://vivabaja.com/906
Nov. 2005: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=14020
Apr. 2005: http://vivabaja.com/405
Mar. 2004: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=8411
Jun. 2003: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=8494
Nov. 2001: http://www.vivabaja.com/bbbb2




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[*] posted on 9-30-2013 at 06:37 PM


David,
I'm still a newb to Baja, and don't know all the places, but found this on FB awhile back.
www.facebook.com/guadalupe.canyon
I have no idea, but thought it was the same place you were talking about:?:
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[*] posted on 9-30-2013 at 07:28 PM


Hi Dan, thank you... there are 3 (at least) campos in the canyon, and each campo has many camp sites. I thought you already looked at the site and may have known which it was for. No worries.

The campo we always went to was Arturo's... the original campo there and the only one with true private campsites and hot tubs built in the boulders... It was an epic place and not going to be easy to duplicate. The hot spring is above/ outside of Arturo's section so the family simply shut off the pipe that went from the spring to Arturo's campo.




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[*] posted on 10-2-2013 at 12:07 AM


Please give us a trip report and photos to see what the other campos look like now... we miss the place... been 5 years almost!



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[*] posted on 10-5-2013 at 01:52 PM


I will be going at the end of this month..Has been 7 yrs for me,I want to go back...I will stay at los Manantiales..



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[*] posted on 10-5-2013 at 02:53 PM


A really pretty area. I enjoyed it, but I think Gerald Ford was president then.



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[*] posted on 10-6-2013 at 09:48 PM


David,did you see Ernestos website, shows that he has 5 of Arturos camps for rent,El Castillo, El Dorado,El Sol,El Mirador and my favorite San Marcos,but they are not cheap..



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[*] posted on 10-7-2013 at 08:24 AM


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David,did you see Ernestos website, shows that he has 5 of Arturos camps for rent,El Castillo, El Dorado,El Sol,El Mirador and my favorite San Marcos,but they are not cheap..


Give me a link please... edit: found the site, and I see they have Arturo's map but call it Don Jose's Campo 1 now? Also, in the reservation list are only a couple of Campo 1 sites listed... ?) http://guadalupecanyonoasis.com/

Maybe Arturo died or just moved to Mexicali to live out his remaining years in poverty? I am not real anxious to support any family member of his that would do such a thing... Maybe I will email Canyonman Rob (Arturo's son-in-law) for the low down?

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[*] posted on 10-7-2013 at 08:02 PM


David I got and e-mail from ernesto, he tells me he owns those 5 camp sites now.And you can rent them from him..

PS. go to maps it shows all the hot tubs...

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[*] posted on 10-7-2013 at 10:23 PM


So what happened to Arturo, and his rights? Sick and forced away, or dead???

It was Arturo's camp that brought tourists and money there... after lots of hard work by his son-in-law Canyonman Rob, tub builder John Nelson, Hotschott and others.

Jealous relatives hopped on the wagon and developed other parts of the canyon... and when Arturo's kept getting the most business (because it is way nicer), the brother, nephew, cousin (?) turned off the water (the source spring is just outside of Arturo's section of the canyon.

I have asked some questions and will report back if there are any answers from the Loya Family sent to me.




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[*] posted on 10-9-2013 at 06:19 PM


I guess I will find out in my next visit.



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[*] posted on 10-9-2013 at 06:28 PM


Thanks José! I wish we could go to... Do you want to see the petroglyphs at La Vibora Canyon, a few miles south?

PHOTOS: http://vivabaja.com/108/

Guadalupe Canyon to La Vibora Canyon (8 miles)

0.0 Arturo's Camp, La Paloma & La Jolla road
2.2 Take right fork. Left is main road back to highway
2.8 Turn sharp right onto track heading south
7.5 Take road to right that drops steeply into arroyo
8.0 End of road, park for petroglyph and metate hike
GPS at end of road: 32°06.733', 115°44.612' (map datum NAD27 Mexico)
Allow 3 hours for the drive and hike.

edited to fix typo, thank you MMc



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[*] posted on 10-9-2013 at 07:18 PM


Your need to shine is more important then saving Baja historical sites? That is amazing.
None of the comments on this thread had any long tern impact?
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=36856&pag...
Send the turn by turn and GPS points via U2U.


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[*] posted on 10-10-2013 at 08:20 AM


People seeing and photographing these sites IS preserving them. Once the idiots deface them or nature erases them, then they are gone.

It is peoples photographs of historic sites that preserves them... and fyi, that web page and GPS list has been posted on the Internet since Jan. 2008. So, it is not new news.

It is the unknown places that aren't saved on photos that risk being lost forever. The pertos and pictos were made by people, for people, and people should see them.




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