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bajabuddha
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DavidB, you use commas instead of decimal points up there in the Great White North, eh? or are your liters really, really tiny? (J/K)  {edited
edition, $3.38/gal instead of $3.45}
Woody, thanks for the tip; with my Flying J card i get 3c. off a gallon and easier to pull in and out w/ my 5th wheel. And now, thanks to Octavo, i'm
gonna be delayed a few more days... don't wanna haul through that kind of storm. Maybe in my younger days; how's that saying go? "The older i get,
the better i was".
[Edited on 10-13-2013 by bajabuddha]
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
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Two points. The fact that Mexico has huge proven reserves means nothing unless they are willing to allow international partnership with nations and
companies that have the equipment and the knowledge to drill deep offshore wells. Currently, Mexico has neither. It requires a constitutional
amendment fro that to happen, and currently, the polls show that the Mexican people are against it.
Second, the boom in US shale oil (which is also environmentally reprehensible) is all relying on the Keystone pipeline project designed to ship both
Canadian and US crude to the Texas gulf coast for export. Great help with balance of payments, but nada for US gasoline prices.
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Keystone XL Pipeline Project
The Keystone XL Pipeline is a proposed 1,179-mile (1,897 km), 36-inch-diameter crude oil pipeline beginning in Hardisty, Alta., and extending south to
Steele City, Neb. This pipeline is a critical infrastructure project for the energy security of the United States and for strengthening the American
economy.
Along with transporting crude oil from Canada, the Keystone XL Pipeline will also support the significant growth of crude oil production in
the United States by allowing American oil producers more access to the large refining markets found in the American Midwest and along the U.S. Gulf
Coast.
For more information on the project please visit the Keystone XL Pipeline Project website at Keystone-XL.com.
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DENNIS
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Bought gas today.
Magna.....11.60 per liter
Premium 12.08 per liter
Peso/Dollar 13.00 to 1
Somebody care to do the math? I misplaced my slip of paper with the formula.
"YOU CAN'T LITTER ALUMINUM"
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Two points. The fact that Mexico has huge proven reserves means nothing unless they are willing to allow international partnership with nations and
companies that have the equipment and the knowledge to drill deep offshore wells. Currently, Mexico has neither. It requires a constitutional
amendment fro that to happen, and currently, the polls show that the Mexican people are against it.
Second, the boom in US shale oil (which is also environmentally reprehensible) is all relying on the Keystone pipeline project designed to ship both
Canadian and US crude to the Texas gulf coast for export. Great help with balance of payments, but nada for US gasoline prices.
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nationalize all US oil profits! there are enough gringos to pay for this. any excess will be allowed to flow onto the international market@spot
prices....
WTF am i missing?
[Edited on 10-13-2013 by woody with a view]
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bajabuddha
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Bought gas today.
Magna.....11.60 per liter
Premium 12.08 per liter
Peso/Dollar 13.00 to 1
Somebody care to do the math? I misplaced my slip of paper with the formula. |
11.60 x 3.78 (liter/gal) / x-rate (13.0) = $3.37 a gallon mas o meno, then allow for how many litros you really get compared to what the pump sez.
Quien sabes? Quien quieres? No se nada.
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajabuddha
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Bought gas today.
Magna.....11.60 per liter
Premium 12.08 per liter
Peso/Dollar 13.00 to 1
Somebody care to do the math? I misplaced my slip of paper with the formula. |
11.60 x 3.78 (liter/gal) / x-rate (13.0) = $3.37 a gallon mas o meno, then allow for how many litros you really get compared to what the pump sez.
Quien sabes? Quien quieres? No se nada.
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dont forget to factor in a
couple bucks for a tip !
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by willardguy
dont forget to factor in a couple bucks for a tip ! |
A couple of bucks? Only if he paints the car.
One buck is enough.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by cliffh
Starting home tues, price on diesel, thanks Cliff |
I got diesel in Mx near Nogales and it was 12 pesos exactly, per liter.
Down near Hermosillo, Sonora, I got some more and it was 12.20/liter.
I found diesel as low as 3.63 between Lake Havasu and Phoenix and unleaded regular as low as 3.15 in the Phoenix area.
Mexican gasoline has blow past gasoline in AZ and diesel is within 10 cents of diesel in AZ.
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bajabuddha
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by willardguy
dont forget to factor in a couple bucks for a tip ! |
A couple of bucks? Only if he paints the car.
One buck is enough. |
That's a lotta dough to be tipping... if you figger he fills 50 gringos a day, you're quadrupleing his wages. I may sound cheap, but from me it's
$5p., and another $5p to whoever washes my windows. If the pumper does, he gets $10p. If i'm disrespected or ignored, NO PROPINA. When you boil it
down, over-tipping in Mexico is really an insult to some, especially when $200p a day is considered a good wage.
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajabuddha
I may sound cheap, but from me it's $5p., and another $5p to whoever washes my windows. If the pumper does, he gets $10p. If i'm disrespected or
ignored, NO PROPINA. When you boil it down, over-tipping in Mexico is really an insult to some, especially when $200p a day is considered a good
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I only tip for service. Pumping gas into my car isn't service....it's sales.
That 200 Ps per day is an archaic scale here in Baja, unless it's wages for the field hands on the lowest rung of the ladder.
I hire three people, two intermittently....a mechanic/ handyman....a housecleaner, and a gardener......and I pay them 100 Ps per hour. Some of their
other employers pay in the same neighborhood, although not all.
I've never been one to keep anyone living on a "hand to mouth" scale.
"YOU CAN'T LITTER ALUMINUM"
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bajabuddha
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| Quote: | I only tip for service. Pumping gas into my car isn't service....it's sales.
That 200 Ps per day is an archaic scale here in Baja, unless it's wages for the field hands on the lowest rung of the ladder.
I hire three people, two intermittently....a mechanic/ handyman....a housecleaner, and a gardener......and I pay them 100 Ps per hour. Some of their
other employers pay in the same neighborhood, although not all.
I've never been one to keep anyone living on a "hand to mouth" scale. |
I know Punta Banda fairly well, been staying at La Jolla for 18 years now. Ensenada is a whole different world than most of Baja, discounting La Paz
and Los Cabos. Come down off your hillside and see how the rest of the people live in the colonias. I tip well for good service also, and pay well
for labor done. I clean my own 'house' though. My neighborhood isn't quite as 'classy' either. We were talking about gas station tips btw.
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
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| Quote: | A friend and I go to the Old Mission Brewery since she is a fan of homebrewed beer. She never leaves 1 peso for a tip. Then she wonders why the
waiters aren't friendly. I always try and tip 15% for good service, since my father was in the restaurant business all his life. | Quote: | Originally posted by bajabuddha
I only tip for service. Pumping gas into my car isn't service....it's sales.
That 200 Ps per day is an archaic scale here in Baja, unless it's wages for the field hands on the lowest rung of the ladder.
I hire three people, two intermittently....a mechanic/ handyman....a housecleaner, and a gardener......and I pay them 100 Ps per hour. Some of their
other employers pay in the same neighborhood, although not all.
I've never been one to keep anyone living on a "hand to mouth" scale. |
I know Punta Banda fairly well, been staying at La Jolla for 18 years now. Ensenada is a whole different world than most of Baja, discounting La Paz
and Los Cabos. Come down off your hillside and see how the rest of the people live in the colonias. I tip well for good service also, and pay well
for labor done. I clean my own 'house' though. My neighborhood isn't quite as 'classy' either. We were talking about gas station tips btw.
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bajabuddha
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I agree, E. Dr.; i've been in the service-oriented business all my life, and very well understand 'propina'. 15% is a very good average to start
with; average service, average tip. Very good gets more, and very bad.... well, i never leave 'nothing'... in the States a nickel is a good hint.
Rarely if ever happens though, but service is the key to good customer returnings.
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajabuddha
"I only tip for service. Pumping gas into my car isn't service....it's sales."
We were talking about gas station tips btw. |
So was I.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajabuddha
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by willardguy
dont forget to factor in a couple bucks for a tip ! |
A couple of bucks? Only if he paints the car.
One buck is enough. |
That's a lotta dough to be tipping... if you figger he fills 50 gringos a day, you're quadrupleing his wages. I may sound cheap, but from me it's
$5p., and another $5p to whoever washes my windows. If the pumper does, he gets $10p. If i'm disrespected or ignored, NO PROPINA. When you boil it
down, over-tipping in Mexico is really an insult to some, especially when $200p a day is considered a good wage. |
The tailor that was altering my new suite got a good tip from me while measuring my inseam. She wasn't that good looking either.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
I only tip for service. Pumping gas into my car isn't service....it's sales.
That 200 Ps per day is an archaic scale here in Baja, unless it's wages for the field hands on the lowest rung of the ladder.
I hire three people, two intermittently....a mechanic/ handyman....a housecleaner, and a gardener......and I pay them 100 Ps per hour. Some of their
other employers pay in the same neighborhood, although not all.
I've never been one to keep anyone living on a "hand to mouth" scale. |
Those of us that can't afford 100p/hr are also living hand-to.mouth. They set their wages; not me.
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Not too many in our town that live on 200p/day.
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bajabuddha
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In our little Pueblita, there's a squid processing plant. In the past they paid their workers by the kilo/processed, and they made good money if they
worked hard. No more local squid, now shipped in from Guerrero, and the workers last winter got a whopping $150p. per day, and it was long hours.
They weren't happy, but it was their living. I'm sure the same is true with those working in Tucson or Tucumcari, the wages are comparable to the
local costs of survival.
When you look at it, $100p an hour is minimum wage in the States, and a very good wage for working Mexicanos. Get away from the larger cities, i'm
sure it'd be a welcome income for most.
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajabuddha
the wages are comparable to the local costs of survival.
When you look at it, $100p an hour is minimum wage in the States, and a very good wage for working Mexicanos. Get away from the larger cities, i'm
sure it'd be a welcome income for most. |
I believe you've hit upon the problem. Most would prefer to live a little bit above the "survival" level.......and I can understand that.
Besides.........they have to pay this price for gas too:
| Quote: | bajabuddha .....................
11.60 x 3.78 (liter/gal) / x-rate (13.0) = $3.37 a gallon
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