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[*] posted on 1-1-2014 at 11:14 AM


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Not sure salsipuedes is better. Once you are in there you can't tell one canyon from the next. They all branch off and it is easy to get turned around.



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[*] posted on 1-1-2014 at 11:19 AM


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I'll try to post a ge shot of where ESGardener set up his camp and went over the hill and out onto the botica dry lake. There is also another place to try that I will mark on the map also. I might need DKs help.
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[*] posted on 1-1-2014 at 11:33 AM


Having had the pleasure to ride many of the Bill Nicols/Jimmy Sones trails it is interesting how they are always working on getting up on the ridges. Elevation is your friend. Can always burn some to get through a tough section.



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[*] posted on 1-1-2014 at 05:17 PM


Do you think it's safe to leave the rental car up those salt lakes for a few days? I have a feeling I won't be able to drive to the second one due to sand and I'll just have to leave the car there and ride the remaining distance.
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[*] posted on 1-1-2014 at 08:37 PM


Hey Mark, Zoe told me to say 'hi' to tocayo!

I'd leave the car unlocked with a note in Spanish that you're over the ridge, everything's alright and you'll be back in a bit. More than likely it'll be fine while you're gone (it sure seemed remote when we were up there in the spring...!).

Have fun and be careful! See you in a week...

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[*] posted on 1-1-2014 at 08:41 PM


^^^yep, just go for it!^^^



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[*] posted on 1-1-2014 at 09:10 PM


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[*] posted on 1-1-2014 at 09:48 PM


I'm highly surprised there isn't some retired gringo down there right now that might be willing to drive you out there and camp a few days while you explore, or drop you off and come back in two days. Should be a lot of people down there right now.
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[*] posted on 1-2-2014 at 07:34 AM


That's exactly what I was thinking Mark. And say that if they wreck the car I'll die out here... even though I could ride my bike back. I might try to find a way to disable it but I'm no mechanic so I don't want to do something I'll regret.

Hi Zoe! I want to spend a couple days in LA fixing up the bike and getting it ready for you (for some reason the rear shifters don't work, I may have to buy a new set), and give it a wash since there's still some salt from last trip.
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[*] posted on 1-2-2014 at 10:13 AM


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Do you think it's safe to leave the rental car up those salt lakes for a few days? I have a feeling I won't be able to drive to the second one due to sand and I'll just have to leave the car there and ride the remaining distance.


Hard to say mark if it is safe or not, not many people out there but there are a few ranchers out there. I would help but I am in San Diego right now and won't be back until the 10th of Jan. There are some pretty rough spots out there that could cause a low slung rental car some problems. Are you staying at Villa Bahia? If so maybe Roger will lend you his truck.
The lat lon for Gardeners camp site is: N 29 18' 18.25 and W 113 52' 02.95 as near as I can tell on GE
You have probably already headed out on todays adventure but good luck.
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[*] posted on 1-2-2014 at 10:39 AM


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Do you think it's safe to leave the rental car up those salt lakes for a few days? I have a feeling I won't be able to drive to the second one due to sand and I'll just have to leave the car there and ride the remaining distance.


Hard to say mark if it is safe or not, not many people out there but there are a few ranchers out there. I would help but I am in San Diego right now and won't be back until the 10th of Jan. There are some pretty rough spots out there that could cause a low slung rental car some problems. Are you staying at Villa Bahia? If so maybe Roger will lend you his truck.
The lat lon for Gardeners camp site is: N 29 18' 18.25 and W 113 52' 02.95 as near as I can tell on GE
You have probably already headed out on todays adventure but good luck.
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Erle Stanley Gardner's Camp (per Larry) is about 1 mile NW from the road to Punta Candelero on the coast (uses Arroyo los Candeleros)... right where the road wraps around the NW corner of the mesa.




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[*] posted on 1-2-2014 at 04:09 PM


Larry, would you confirm that the GPS you posted (and the location on the GE images above) are correct for Uncle Erle's 1960's base camp? Thank you!

Edit: Just checked, and no new Spot from Mark since he returned to Villa Bahia two days ago...

http://share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?glId=...

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[*] posted on 1-3-2014 at 07:09 AM


Well he is on his way again. He camped yesterday (Jan. 2) about 0.1 miles south of the left fork in the Y in the road that takes him toward Botica Dry Lake.

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[*] posted on 1-3-2014 at 09:26 AM


Looks like the rental handled the soft spots well enough.

Mark and I were able to make arrangements to pick him up at the TJ airport rental return area on Thursday. That gives him a week to play with down there. Probably not enough time to do the main canyon, especially with the prospect of winds hanging him up at the canyon mouth.

I'm guessing he'll spend a couple of days scouting out a rout into one of the tributaries, then ride down that sandy canyon he's parked at so he can test out the rig in the sand wash as well as his desalination methods and kayak. He's been getting some great go pro footage and I'm sure he'll want to record some shots of him traversing the sandy washs on the bike with trailer. That way he'll be confident all of all of his methods to explore the main canyon system for next time.

Not a bad way to fill out a few weeks in Baja...!

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[*] posted on 1-3-2014 at 09:32 AM


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Larry, would you confirm that the GPS you posted (and the location on the GE images above) are correct for Uncle Erle's 1960's base camp? Thank you!

Edit: Just checked, and no new Spot from Mark since he returned to Villa Bahia two days ago...

http://share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?glId=...

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Yes, that is the place, mas o' menos. Herman and I went out there about 10 years ago. He was kind enough to help me in trying to find a way into the canyon overland. He showed me about where they camped and then showed me what he called a trail up and over the hill towards Botica dry lake. You have to take a lot of what Herman said with a grain of salt, but on that day he seemed pretty straight forward. We had a good time. He had lots of stories. Some true and others suspect. I never found what I consider an easy way in there. You can walk in or even take animals in there but you have to bring so much water for an expedition like that, that it gets to be too much real quick. it is a very unforgiving place until you get into the canyon itself. In the canyon itself there was lots of water and shade from palm trees so pretty pleasant.




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[*] posted on 1-3-2014 at 10:55 AM


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Well he is on his way again. He camped yesterday (Jan. 2) about 0.1 miles south of the left fork in the Y in the road that takes him toward Botica Dry Lake.


Here is the image off the Spot page... and you can see where he was yesterday and perhaps this morning (#8) and where he was in Salsipuedes a few days ago, to the west. La Botica dry lake is at the top center, and just west of it is Salsipuedes Canyon. Mark is next to Laguna Seca dry lake, on the road that goes to Los Candeleros Canyon and out to the coast by Punta Candelero.





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[*] posted on 1-3-2014 at 10:59 AM


Mark,
Car rental insurance most likely does not cover the car for "outback" situations....read the fine print....the closest rental agency is likely either Ensenada or Loreto.

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Mark,
Car rental insurance most likely does not cover the car for "outback" situations....read the fine print....the closest rental agency is likely either Ensenada or Loreto.

I respect your perseverance... buena suerte paisano.


Sounds like a good car wash is in order before the drop off...
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[*] posted on 1-3-2014 at 12:46 PM
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Former Spot #8 is now #6, and his newest location is #7, at a small hill.

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[*] posted on 1-3-2014 at 01:49 PM


Just sent another spot signal. He's continuing on to the hills on the other side of the playa...
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