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[*] posted on 12-7-2013 at 05:12 PM
? regarding shade cloth for patio covers


We're finally getting the front of the cabin completed and will have a 10'X24' area to cover. Thinking of using the green sheeting that nursuries often use to shade a large area and wondering what the experiences have been from others who have used it.
Is there a 'best' way of attaching it? Does it really block the sun? Will a powerfull wind shred it?
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[*] posted on 12-7-2013 at 05:19 PM


koolaroo, a little more expensive but up to the task.
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[*] posted on 12-7-2013 at 05:26 PM


I saw some nicely designed ones in La Paz being used as shade for parking. They had a continuous piece of 3/8 or 1/2 high quality line sewn into a sleeve around the perimeter. They left the line exposed at cutout corners as the attachment points. It was about the most bomb proof way that I've seen it executed. I wish I would have snapped a photo.



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[*] posted on 12-7-2013 at 05:41 PM


We put some on over our front patio....works awesome. A few others were impressed with ours and followed suit. I bought our at Home Depot. Relatively inexpensive to purchase and easy to install. It has held up well in the wind of BA. We have gotten fours years so far with no problems.

This is the first picture I found


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[*] posted on 12-7-2013 at 06:06 PM


I bet that frame work made a huge difference Zac.
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[*] posted on 12-7-2013 at 06:08 PM


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Originally posted by Santiago
We're finally getting the front of the cabin completed and will have a 10'X24' area to cover. Thinking of using the green sheeting that nursuries often use to shade a large area and wondering what the experiences have been from others who have used it.
Is there a 'best' way of attaching it? Does it really block the sun? Will a powerfull wind shred it?


i have a piece that size (brown) that you can have. it's in yuma but it can be in Sandy Eggo when you pass thru.

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[*] posted on 12-7-2013 at 07:13 PM


Jim,
We had shade cloth on ours till we got the lamina from Pepito (Ramon). We stapled it with the T-50 stapler, then over the top of that we nailed batting made out of plywood, 1x, what ever we could get our hands on. We stretched it as tight as we possibly could so there was no slack in it what so ever, so it didn't tear in the wind. It was "shady" but not good enough to take a nap under in the summer, we still felt the sun and the heat. It also didn't keep the rain out. We might have a bunch of it in our garage trailer, you're welcome to it, if it's there.

Have you thought about using the lamina? Put it up and forgetaboutit.

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[*] posted on 12-8-2013 at 07:56 AM


I am also a big fan of the lamina. Put it up once and you're done.
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Paulina, walked around your place yesterday and everything looks fine.




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[*] posted on 12-8-2013 at 08:13 AM


What's lamina?
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[*] posted on 12-8-2013 at 08:22 AM


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What's lamina?
Metal roofing.



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[*] posted on 12-8-2013 at 08:23 AM


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It was "shady" but not good enough to take a nap under in the summer, we still felt the sun and the heat. It also didn't keep the rain out.

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I was worried about this as well. I did not know you had replaced your netting; I'll get by and check it out next time down.
At Zac's place a little sun is a good thing:lol:
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[*] posted on 12-8-2013 at 08:27 AM


Metal roofing: a few times that I have been under metal roofing in the summer it seemed to radiate the heat downward. Does it come in white to reflect the heat?
I would like to use 4X6 rafters at about 32", will it span this?
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[*] posted on 12-8-2013 at 08:32 AM


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It was "shady" but not good enough to take a nap under in the summer, we still felt the sun and the heat. It also didn't keep the rain out.

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I was worried about this as well. I did not know you had replaced your netting; I'll get by and check it out next time down.
At Zac's place a little sun is a good thing:lol:


Exactly. In the cooler months, we like some coming in. But even in the warmer months, enough sun is blocked so it is still comfortable. But on the other side, lamina might be a better choice.....much more expensive, though. We made a nice shade area in the back with old lamina that we took off our roof. Works great!




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[*] posted on 12-8-2013 at 08:41 AM


What is the snow load??? :lol:


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I would like to use 4X6 rafters at about 32", will it span this?




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[*] posted on 12-8-2013 at 08:47 AM


The beauty of shade cloth is that it breathes. Cooler and less chance of it taking flight.



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[*] posted on 12-8-2013 at 09:04 AM


BJ: I was thinking about this very issue - at least once a decade or so a hurricane will travel up the SOC and reach this area; onshore winds will go right under this patio cover; I assumed the netting would just tear away leaving the posts and beams. Anyone further south have experiences with this?
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[*] posted on 12-8-2013 at 09:13 AM


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Metal roofing: a few times that I have been under metal roofing in the summer it seemed to radiate the heat downward. Does it come in white to reflect the heat?
I would like to use 4X6 rafters at about 32", will it span this?
Lamina is very light weight, 4x6's would be overkill, you would be better with 2x6's every 24 inches, with 1x2 purlins every 24" to support the lamina. Fasten with grommeted screws.



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[*] posted on 12-8-2013 at 10:53 AM


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then over the top of that we nailed batting made out of plywood,



That will probably be the first thing to go in time.




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[*] posted on 12-8-2013 at 10:55 AM


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Metal roofing: a few times that I have been under metal roofing in the summer it seemed to radiate the heat downward. Does it come in white to reflect the heat?


I've never seen any that wasn't galvanized, so painting may be a problem, should that idea occur.




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[*] posted on 12-8-2013 at 11:07 AM


We've been getting shade cloth on-line from "The Shade Cloth store". They have it in various densities: 30% to 90%, depending on what you are using it for. We use the 50% for plants and the 90% for the patio where we sit. It comes in a lot of colors plus an aluminum coated type that reflects the heat. It comes with a reinforced 2" edge with grommits every 2 feet. We just tie it down with nylon cord. That also makes it easy to take down.

The shade cloth in 6" wide rolls you get at Home Depot is 85%. We use to use it over a patio with 50% lathe, the the combination created too much shade. Also, it would catch the wind and billow up. We now have a single 12" wide piece of 50% cloth. The wind goes right through it.
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