Originally posted by willardguy
if you're in no hurry its fun to take the old dirt road from la mision (on the north side of the valley) to el porvenir, then down the 3. miss all the
traffic
the tiny little town of san jose de la zorra before you come out at porvenir is worth exploring.
[Edited on 12-28-2013 by willardguy]
WillardGuy or DK...have a nice map for this alternate route around the traffic? Thanks
Originally posted by willardguy
if you're in no hurry its fun to take the old dirt road from la mision (on the north side of the valley) to el porvenir, then down the 3. miss all the
traffic
the tiny little town of san jose de la zorra before you come out at porvenir is worth exploring.
[Edited on 12-28-2013 by willardguy]
WillardGuy or DK...have a nice map for this alternate route around the traffic? Thanks
what makes you
think DAVID would have a map? actually this dirt road WAS the road before the
bridge was built into la mision. its begins right at the north end of the bridge, its on the tripleA maps
Hope no one was hurt with this latest collapse. This area has always been a wild ride. But driving slowly has its advantages, besides safety.
One cloudy winter day a friend and I were driving north, slowly, above this "salsipuedes" slope, and spotted a leaping gray whale. We pulled over to
watch a group of gray whales leap, and leap, and leap.... and then do what gray whales usually do in the lagoons : make baby whales.
Quite an interesting perspective from high on the bluff... slowing down to enjoy the view has its advantages, but may no longer be possible after this
latest collapse.
[edit] Whew- just reviewed the latest photos/video. Thanks to all for posting updates, images and news reports.
Of note from this report:
"Meanwhile, the mayor of Ensenada, Gilberto Hirata, has blamed Capufe for not closing the highway stretch between La Misión and Ensenada earlier, even
after reports of serious faults started to appear on social media and at the urging of state officials.
"He also stated that they were in talks with federal and state authorities about constructing an alternate road or replacing the highway with a bridge
or another road after years of trouble with the current scenic route.
"The collapse would be devastating for the city of Ensenada and to the overall economy of the state, as the city is home to the third busiest cruise
ship terminal in Mexico and gateway to the rest of Baja by the sea."
It's pretty miraculous that no one was injured. On the bright side: for gray whales, looks like they will have their privacy back along this stretch
of coastline for quite a while ...
[Edited on 12-29-2013 by Whale-ista]
[Edited on 12-29-2013 by Whale-ista]
\"Probably the airplanes will bring week-enders from Los Angeles before long, and the beautiful poor bedraggled old town will bloom with a
Floridian ugliness.\" (John Steinbeck, 1940, discussing the future of La Paz, BCS, Mexico)
thanks for the photos Ken. I suspect there are hardships all around because of this but the landslide risk is readily apparent to any geologist who
has ever driven the toll road.
Muck like Devil's Slide on the Northern California Coast, these major zones of active landsliding are never really stable, only meta-stable...liable
to let go ant the slightest excuse.
Decent traffic engineers plan for alternate routes.
I guess Puerto Nuevo will be hard to get to for some time, I will miss the lobster but at least I can get Dungeness Crab locally.
Probably due to the recent earthquake that hit Ensenada. I have been traveling through Tecate from the Ruta del Vino road from Ensenada to Tecate
the last few months and the road is great. The only problem is there is no Sentri and if you cross on a weekend after 12 pm or in the mornings early
it takes hours to cross. The good news is after 2 pm weekdays it's pretty clear crossing. One word of advice, make sure you drive at least one car
length for every 10 miles an hour you are going and don't have anything hanging on your rear view mirror. Officers are working overtime and they are
looking for any excuse to pull you over to check for smuggling, contraband and the like. The scenery is nice and the road is free. Just don't drink
before you cross over to the US, like I said, they are handing out tickets like confetti on the US 94 highway.
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Originally posted by Geo_Skip
thanks for the photos Ken.
You are welcome, Skip.
Check out the video! A Semi-trucker got his rig stuck - not sure how the
driver fared getting himself out (on foot). But, the truck sure isn't going *anywhere*.
End of the line for this route. They'll have to cut a new roadway around the hills inland. There is NO WAY to stabilize a road base through a fault
zone like this.
My bet is on SCT cutting access routes and joining with the free road north and south of the slide then using newly cut "paralelos" alongside the old
highway to carry traffic.
Folks here who were in Ensenada on the 18th said they felt quite a shake.
Looks like there is every chance of the whole section sliding into the Pacific leaving a sheer cliff. Some developer will sell the new "sea view"
homesites he he he.
Ouch, that looks like the end of that stretch of highway. Pray that nobody gets killed.
I've mistrusted that coastal toll road ever since my pickup camper took a hit from a basketball-size rolling rock in a major flood in 1979. Rocks
were bouncing down that hillside like cannonballs and I was doing my best to avoid them...but then BANG!
One thing for sure, the Tecate routes will all be swamped by now.
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actually this dirt road WAS the road before the
bridge was built into la mision. its begins right at the north end of the bridge, its on the tripleA maps
A Semi-trucker got his rig stuck - not sure how the
driver fared getting himself out (on foot). But, the truck sure isn't going *anywhere*.
