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Whale-ista
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Boat importation law changes (per Discover Baja)
Didn't see a place for boating news to be posted (apologies if overlooked/already posted elsewhere).
Here's latest info from Discover Baja regarding bringing boats into MX. Not sure how/if this applies to kayaks.
TEMPORARY BOAT IMPORTATION LAWS HAVE CHANGED FOR BAJA
Be aware that the temporary boat importation laws have changed for Baja and now every boat that will be going down to Baja needs to have a temporary
boat import permit. Inflatable boats that can collapse and fit into a bag are the only boats that are exempt from this law.
To get your temporary boat importation you will need to stop at the border on your way into Baja and have your paperwork in order. You can go into the
Aduanas (customs) building at the border and they will direct you to the Banjercito where you will pay and get your permit.
You will need to cross at the Otay Mesa or Tecate border crossings (you are NOT able to get your permit at the San Ysidro, El Chaparral, port of
entry).
You will need to have the following paperwork with you:
-Boat registration
-Motor serial number
-Copy of the title
-If there is a lienholder on the boat, you will need to have a letter from the lienholder granting permission to take the vessel to Mexico
The fee is about $50 and can be paid in pesos, dollars or by Visa or Mastercard. The permit is good for 10 years.
If your boat is already in Baja, you will need to go to Pichilingue in La Paz to complete this process. Only the owner of the boat can complete this
process for the boat at Pichilingue (they will not allow a power of attorney).
Most marinas also require on-the-water boat liability insurance, which Discover Baja can provide.
FMM PORT OF ENTRY
If you are getting a prepaid FMM, tourist permit, from Discover Baja, please be aware that it is now mandatory for us to know the border crossing you
will be using to drive into Baja (If crossing at Mexicali, you must specify east or west). The price for prepaid FMMs is $35.
For more information about FMMs, or to download the application for a prepaid FMM: www.discoverbaja.com/fmt.html
For any questions, please call us at 800-727-2252 or email us at ask@discoverbaja.com and we'll be glad to help!
\"Probably the airplanes will bring week-enders from Los Angeles before long, and the beautiful poor bedraggled old town will bloom with a
Floridian ugliness.\" (John Steinbeck, 1940, discussing the future of La Paz, BCS, Mexico)
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Pescador
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You can also still use the web-site:
http://www.banjercito.com.mx/site/siteBanjer/Bicentenario/ii...
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Whale-ista
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Boating forum?
Before posting here, I looked for a good fit, and realized there was no generic boating forum.
I realize many (most?) boaters are using their vessels to get up close and personal with fish, but perhaps a simple "Boating" forum for kayakers,
sailors, etc. would be helpful as laws and policies change? 
\"Probably the airplanes will bring week-enders from Los Angeles before long, and the beautiful poor bedraggled old town will bloom with a
Floridian ugliness.\" (John Steinbeck, 1940, discussing the future of La Paz, BCS, Mexico)
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Lengua
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Are you sure its every boat and inflatables that fold up? . The Banjercito website where you can apply for the tip says you must get a tip for a boat
greater than 14'7". Applying for a tip online is very easy . provide the information , pay the $50.00 US and your TIP will be delivered to your door
step.
In my case it was 24 hours later by DHL and then I received a phone call from Banjercito to verify delivery. All this fuss over boats be impounded
etc....just do the right thing , keep your paper work in order and it will be fine.
Here's the link: copy and paste into your browser.
https://www.banjercito.com.mx/registroVehiculos/opcionCaptur...
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DaliDali
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$50 clams for a one week vacationer to bring his private trailer boat into Baja?...
Is that 10 year valid period apply when that vacationer goes back to his home and then returns next year?.....each and every return trip up to the
10th year?
Makes me no never mind, as my boat is a "national" panga.....born and bred in MX, but for the casual vacationing private boater it might make a big
difference to go or not. Maybe!!
A formerly required annual "boat permit" seems to have been reborn with a new name.....TIP!!
[Edited on 1-14-2014 by DaliDali]
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Lengua
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TIP
One more thing , I mentioned the 14'7" cause there's a lot of Tin boaters that wont need them . However , its not a bad idea and cheap insurance if
you want to make certain that your trip goes off without a border hitch.
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DJL
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Stupid question time from the new guy -
Does this apply to Canoes/Kayaks ? As it reads ...
-Boat registration
-Motor serial number
California doesn't require registration for a Kayak ....
D.~
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DJL
Does this apply to Canoes/Kayaks ?
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I had the same thought, a lot of kayaks are under the
size posted, some not, yrs. back, they would, instead of
a reg #, have the discription of the kayak listed, like yellow, Scupper, etc.,
most, all have a # imbedded in the hull
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Lengua
One more thing , I mentioned the 14'7" cause there's a lot of Tin boaters that wont need them . However , its not a bad idea and cheap insurance if
you want to make certain that your trip goes off without a border hitch.
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those links were inoperable (or very slow). please provide link to the 14'7" size criteria,... wondering too how a kayak gets treated if rules have
changed,...
ya know, some sups are as long as kayaks, perhaps surfers should get permits for their boards 
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Hook
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Before my post about the recent vessel impoundings (yesterday), I contacted Doug about starting up a board specifically for boating. I was surprised
there wasn't one. He says he is going to do it and see how much it is used.
So, when it has been created, let's use it boaters, so we keep it.
The Nomads own cruisers board. 
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DaliDali
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
| Quote: | Originally posted by Lengua
One more thing , I mentioned the 14'7" cause there's a lot of Tin boaters that wont need them . However , its not a bad idea and cheap insurance if
you want to make certain that your trip goes off without a border hitch.
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those links were inoperable (or very slow). please provide link to the 14'7" size criteria,... wondering too how a kayak gets treated if rules have
changed,...
ya know, some sups are as long as kayaks, perhaps surfers should get permits for their boards |
And for sure.....a $50 clam "road use" fee on each and every entry for bicyclists.
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DaliDali
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Did some of you miss the notice in the opening post... this part?:
TEMPORARY BOAT IMPORTATION LAWS HAVE CHANGED FOR BAJA
Be aware that the temporary boat importation laws have changed for Baja and now every boat that will be going down to Baja needs to have a
temporary boat import permit. Inflatable boats that can collapse and fit into a bag are the only boats that are exempt from
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The confusion seems to be with kayaks and canoes.
Many US states do not require registration of such "boats".
Therefore, they do not meet the requirements for a TIP, as presenting a "registration" is one of the prerequisites to get that TIP.
Strictly defined and applied....a rigid canoe or kayak cannot get a TIP.....no papers.....no TIP.
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Whale-ista
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I asked the Discover Baja folks about kayaks, they say "excluded."
\"Probably the airplanes will bring week-enders from Los Angeles before long, and the beautiful poor bedraggled old town will bloom with a
Floridian ugliness.\" (John Steinbeck, 1940, discussing the future of La Paz, BCS, Mexico)
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DJL
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David K -
I consider my soon-to-be-purchased Kayak as more of a deathtrap , and less a proper Boat . Just sayin' ......
D.~ , who HATES all things that float , other than Float-Tubes 
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akshadow
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email from Discover Baja
We just spoke with Banjercito and they told us that it was for boat 15 feet and over.
Maythé
Discover Baja Travel Club
(619) 275-4225
(800) 727-2252
(858) 458-0722 Fax
www.discoverbaja.com
www.facebook.com/discoverbaja"
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Did some of you miss the notice in the opening post... this part?:
TEMPORARY BOAT IMPORTATION LAWS HAVE CHANGED FOR BAJA
Be aware that the temporary boat importation laws have changed for Baja and now every boat that will be going down to Baja needs to have a
temporary boat import permit. Inflatable boats that can collapse and fit into a bag are the only boats that are exempt from
this law. |
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msteve1014
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Looks like more bad info. getting people all stirred up over nothing. The law did not change, it is being enforced.
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Did some of you miss the notice in the opening post... this part?:
TEMPORARY BOAT IMPORTATION LAWS HAVE CHANGED FOR BAJA
Be aware that the temporary boat importation laws have changed for Baja and now every boat that will be going down to Baja needs to have a
temporary boat import permit. Inflatable boats that can collapse and fit into a bag are the only boats that are exempt from
this law. |
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Did some of you miss the notice in the opening post... this part?:
TEMPORARY BOAT IMPORTATION LAWS HAVE CHANGED FOR BAJA
Be aware that the temporary boat importation laws have changed for Baja and now every boat that will be going down to Baja needs to have a
temporary boat import permit. Inflatable boats that can collapse and fit into a bag are the only boats that are exempt from
this law. |
what about gravy boats?
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David K
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LOL! Good news on the kayaks and gravy boats!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by msteve1014
Looks like more bad info. getting people all stirred up over nothing. The law did not change, it is being enforced.
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That is correct. No change in the law. Just more consistent enforcement.
This same misinformation was floated on BloodyDecks a couple of years ago.
http://www.bdoutdoors.com/forums/showthread.php/380234-New-T...
By far the easiest way to get a TIP for a boat is online. I got mine for my current boat before I took delivery in Florida. The builder provided the
hull number, motor serial number and trailer VIN number. I ordered the Tip online to be sent to the factory and picked it up when I picked up the
boat.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Whale-ista
Before posting here, I looked for a good fit, and realized there was no generic boating forum.
I realize many (most?) boaters are using their vessels to get up close and personal with fish, but perhaps a simple "Boating" forum for kayakers,
sailors, etc. would be helpful as laws and policies change?
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I think that would be great. You have a lot of boaters down here and they have a lot of information.
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