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[*] posted on 2-16-2014 at 09:00 AM
Medical Marijuana and Mexico


I didn't see a specific topic for this, so I thought I'd post here. States like Colorado have grabbed the headlines by legalizing recreational use of marijuana, but Massachusetts just voted in favor of medicinal marijuana dispensaries. I don't partake of the sweet leaf myself, but was curious as to whether there is any such thing in Mexico. It would seem odd to me to be able to purchase many drugs requiring a prescription in the U.S. over the counter in Mexico but to have pot banned and its use dealt with very harshly. :o
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[*] posted on 2-16-2014 at 09:12 AM


Nothing that I've heard of.
There are large freeway signs now before entering Mexico that flat say don't take medical pot into, or out of Mexico.




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[*] posted on 2-16-2014 at 09:16 AM


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There are large freeway signs now before entering Mexico that flat say don't take medical pot into, or out of Mexico.


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[*] posted on 2-16-2014 at 09:45 AM


I have heard something about the Mexican Congress discussing the possibility of medical MJ, but I haven't heard the outcome. It was only going to be allowed around Mexico City anyway. Guess if you need some relief from whatever MJ is supposed to relieve you'll have to move to Mexico City if you want to partake.:biggrin:



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[*] posted on 2-16-2014 at 09:46 AM


Seriously, it makes sense that marijuana can't be brought into or out of the country. The question is: can it be purchased legally for medicinal use?
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[*] posted on 2-16-2014 at 09:54 AM


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Seriously, it makes sense that marijuana can't be brought into or out of the country. The question is: can it be purchased legally for medicinal use?


No.




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[*] posted on 2-16-2014 at 09:59 AM


Mexican citizens have had the right to possess 40 grams of marijuana for use if they are "vicios" for many years.

They may have had to endure arrest, an "auto formal de prision" and incarceration, but they were generally released according to that "vicio" (addict) provision.

I was aware of many such cases when I lived in Oaxaca.




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[*] posted on 2-16-2014 at 10:52 AM


The new freeway sign that has been reported does not exist on the approaches to the Tecate crossing, but it certainly brings-up the specter of the madness that is US law. A person with a permit to use cannabis in California is a felon for the few minutes they are under the control of the Feds at the border. That is plenty of time to turn a $100. citation, for a person without a permit, into a prison term.

Also note that it is a federal crime for a person with a compassionate use permit for cannabis to possess a gun. No person who uses Heroin, PCP, Cocaine or Pot is allowed to own a gun. These are ALL Schedule 1 narcotics don't you know. Possessing a permit has been considered proof of use.

Also please note that alcohol is involved in 70% of criminal cases that involve imprisonment, but an abject alcoholic CAN own a gun.




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[*] posted on 2-16-2014 at 11:09 AM


Oh boy, more problems on the road.....

http://alcoholism.about.com/b/2012/02/15/smoking-weed-double...




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[*] posted on 2-16-2014 at 03:38 PM


So Baja guy, your source is a guy who goes by his Alcoholics Anonymous name (really!) and cites one study which involved crunching the numbers generated when reviewing written records of the blood tests of dead people. There is more than enough reason for this to raise eyebrows!

http://norml.org/library/item/marijuana-and-driving-a-review...

You'll be at the risk of being propagandized, so just skip down to the summaries of the 7 studies they cite.

You might want to also look at the fairly new study out of England which shows that FATIGUE is about equal to an alkie blowing a .05.
http://assets.dft.gov.uk/publications/fatigue-and-road-safet...
If I'm not mistaken, that makes being very tired a greater risk than being loaded.




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[*] posted on 2-16-2014 at 03:41 PM


I am hoping we will all start using the new forum topic Health and Wellness for any medical related topics!!:yes:
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[*] posted on 2-16-2014 at 03:53 PM


My non-scientific observation of people I know that have med pot Rx: 5 percent have a real med problem, 95 percent just like the minimized law enforcement risk of buying legal pot to get baked, or prefer to buy their recreational drug from legal biz entity instead of local pusher man.

California situation is proof that most med pot customers are just seeking legal high :lol:
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[*] posted on 2-16-2014 at 04:03 PM


Dude.........

Chill , toke up, sit back and have some munchies....you are WAY uptight. While you are relaxing, try and focus on this:

http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/pot-fuels-surge-dr...

I have had enough problems with drunk drivers in my lifetime, I don't need to add stoned drivers as well..........

Have you contemplated a move to Colorado or Washington??: lol:

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So Baja guy, your source is a guy who goes by his Alcoholics Anonymous name (really!) and cites one study which involved crunching the numbers generated when reviewing written records of the blood tests of dead people. There is more than enough reason for this to raise eyebrows!

http://norml.org/library/item/marijuana-and-driving-a-review...

You'll be at the risk of being propagandized, so just skip down to the summaries of the 7 studies they cite.

You might want to also look at the fairly new study out of England which shows that FATIGUE is about equal to an alkie blowing a .05.
http://assets.dft.gov.uk/publications/fatigue-and-road-safet...
If I'm not mistaken, that makes being very tired a greater risk than being loaded.




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Dude.........

Chill , toke up, sit back and have some munchies....you are WAY uptight. While you are relaxing, try and focus on this:

http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/pot-fuels-surge-dr...

I have had enough problems with drunk drivers in my lifetime, I don't need to add stoned drivers as well..........

Have you contemplated a move to Colorado or Washington??: lol:

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So Baja guy, your source is a guy who goes by his Alcoholics Anonymous name (really!) and cites one study which involved crunching the numbers generated when reviewing written records of the blood tests of dead people. There is more than enough reason for this to raise eyebrows!

http://norml.org/library/item/marijuana-and-driving-a-review...

You'll be at the risk of being propagandized, so just skip down to the summaries of the 7 studies they cite.

You might want to also look at the fairly new study out of England which shows that FATIGUE is about equal to an alkie blowing a .05.
http://assets.dft.gov.uk/publications/fatigue-and-road-safet...
If I'm not mistaken, that makes being very tired a greater risk than being loaded.


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[*] posted on 2-17-2014 at 07:35 AM


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I have had enough problems with drunk drivers in my lifetime, I don't need to add stoned drivers as well..........

So I take it that you are all for the prohibition of alcohol?



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[*] posted on 2-17-2014 at 08:38 AM


I am all for not adding to the problems we already have, with drunk drivers. Adding stoned drivers to that mix will compound the problem. After a year or so it will be interesting to see what statistics come out of Colorado and Washington.


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I have had enough problems with drunk drivers in my lifetime, I don't need to add stoned drivers as well..........

So I take it that you are all for the prohibition of alcohol?




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[*] posted on 2-17-2014 at 08:49 AM


Small amounts are tolerated, and widely accepted for health benefits, if observed on your person in public it is considered a delito de salud and may require a conversation with a counselor after three such events.
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[*] posted on 2-17-2014 at 08:58 AM


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Small amounts are tolerated, and widely accepted for health benefits, if observed on your person in public it is considered a delito de salud and may require a conversation with a counselor after three such events.


Any foreigner/tourist down here who gets jambed up holding any amount of dope can expect a conversation or two beyond that point.
These laws ...rules....whatever they are, aren't written for our benefit unless one can afford a law firm to follow him around.
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[*] posted on 2-17-2014 at 09:05 AM


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I am all for not adding to the problems we already have, with drunk drivers. Adding stoned drivers to that mix will compound the problem. After a year or so it will be interesting to see what statistics come out of Colorado and Washington.


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I have had enough problems with drunk drivers in my lifetime, I don't need to add stoned drivers as well..........

So I take it that you are all for the prohibition of alcohol?
Since alcohol is by far a larger problem in terms of impaired driving and deleterious health effects why should the legality of it be tolerated over a far less harmful substance?



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[*] posted on 2-17-2014 at 09:11 AM


Yep, same with everyone depending on variables, but the reality is there is no incarceration for small amounts for personal use such as in the home. All other variables may cause a much more severe response. Daily there are reports of arrests and formal prison incarceration for amounts larger than personal use. I don't have personal experience, I just read the paper and chat with friends. Mileage may vary.
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