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[*] posted on 10-24-2015 at 11:38 AM


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Woody, where do they sell those in San Diego County?


online only as far as i can tell. free shipping. check the site.




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[*] posted on 10-24-2015 at 11:41 AM


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holds more ice and 1/2 price of the Yeti.

https://www.rticcoolers.com/?www.rticcoolers.com

edit: this from the above site regarding water in the cooler:

Keep it Chilly

Water from melted ice is not a bad thing! Cold water that develops after a few days helps insulate the remaining ice better than empty airspace. Open your lid as few times as possible to reduce adding warm air from the outside. All ice is not created equal in other words, ice performance can vary greatly. Block ice will melt slower than cube ice, but cube ice with a larger total surface area will cool items faster. You may want to consider a mixture of both types. Start with very cold, solid ice versus wet ice that has already begun to melt. Fill cooler with as much ice as possible to reduce empty air areas.

[Edited on 10-24-2015 by woody with a view]


Woody, that's another Another faux logic discussion of cooling.

Key is to buy ice twice in first day of trip. First bag will melt fast as it cools the chest and contents. Then drain that melt water to gain volume space, and add another bag of ice to fill cooler. Keep cooler out of sun. Avoid opening it often. Eat the perishables before your ice is gone.
Repeat as necessary.
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[*] posted on 10-24-2015 at 11:46 AM


i'd rather concentrate on the beer inventory than freak out over melt ice. ice melts, it's a fact of life. if the water is drained then the beers come to ambient outside temp faster than in the melt water. i prefer 50 degree beer in melt water over 90 degree beer in a dry cooler with 3 ice cubes in the bottom when 35 degree beer isn't an option any longer. it just means another trip to town!



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[*] posted on 10-24-2015 at 11:48 AM


Here is the deal... you want ice to last the longest, use BLOCK ice. You can use some crushed to fill the gaps and have for c-cktails, but it will melt faster. The bags of cube ice will be gone in hours, and are a waste if you have the block option. As we know, the Oxxo stores and other markets usually only have the ice cubes in bags, so better than nothing if you are almost out.



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[*] posted on 10-24-2015 at 11:51 AM


I'm a "leave the water in it" guy, I will drain it when I have access to new ice. I put food etc. that I don't want to get wet in a gallon Ziploc or plastic container.

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[*] posted on 10-24-2015 at 11:59 AM


Looks like this little dust up got some decent input since I went on a mud run with my kids this morning!

Nice to see people contributing something other than a nice big glass of frosty snarkiness!
Jajajaja!

Here is what I do.
I just buy more ice or use a portable fridge/freezer.
I have supplemented with dry ice.

Water transfers heat more efficiently than air. It's all about the BTU's moving through a medium more efficiently.

If you are trying to cool things quickly and ice is readily available then leave the water in.

If you want your ice to last a bit longer than drain the majority of it out and keep the lid closed.

I'm no scientist but heat transfer is heat transfer.




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[*] posted on 10-24-2015 at 12:00 PM


Quote: Originally posted by soulpatch  
Looks like this little dust up got some decent input since I went on a mud run with my kids this morning!

Nice to see people contributing something other than a nice big glass of frosty snarkiness!
Jajajaja!

Here is what I do.
I just buy more ice or use a portable fridge/freezer.
I have supplemented with dry ice.

Water transfers heat more efficiently than air. It's all about the BTU's moving through a medium more efficiently.

If you are trying to cool things quickly and ice is readily available then leave the water in.

If you want your ice to last a bit longer than drain the majority of it out and keep the lid closed.

I'm no scientist but heat transfer is heat transfer.


You are right on Frank!




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[*] posted on 10-24-2015 at 12:35 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Here is the deal... you want ice to last the longest, use BLOCK ice. You can use some crushed to fill the gaps and have for c-cktails, but it will melt faster. The bags of cube ice will be gone in hours, and are a waste if you have the block option. As we know, the Oxxo stores and other markets usually only have the ice cubes in bags, so better than nothing if you are almost out.


Re block vs cube ice... It takes 80 calories to melt 1 gram block ice. It takes 80 calories to melt 1 gram cubed ice.
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[*] posted on 10-24-2015 at 01:25 PM


Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Here is the deal... you want ice to last the longest, use BLOCK ice. You can use some crushed to fill the gaps and have for c-cktails, but it will melt faster. The bags of cube ice will be gone in hours, and are a waste if you have the block option. As we know, the Oxxo stores and other markets usually only have the ice cubes in bags, so better than nothing if you are almost out.


Re block vs cube ice... It takes 80 calories to melt 1 gram block ice. It takes 80 calories to melt 1 gram cubed ice.


You are both right of course, it takes the same amount of energy to melt ice regardless of the configuration. Cubed ice has lots of spaces around it and usually are a tube shape resulting in even less ice per cubic foot. You can put a whole lot more ice in a cooler if it is in a large block.....but even the goat knows that...




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[*] posted on 10-25-2015 at 12:39 AM


Always get more beer, Always get more ice,
And when given the chance......... Salute The Maestro :cool:

Thanks for all the great tricks and techniques. We have been loving on the ESKY line of Coleman coolers. Half the price per Qt of the Yeti, tough, tons of features and holds ice for a very long time using some of the tips posted here. I use the cooler year round, Cervezas just seems to taste better on ice.
I'm not a physicist, but I have figured out through extensive and rigorous beach testing some of the enemies of long lasting ice.
Surface area of the ice, conductivity and temperature of elements it contacts, amount of insulation and outside ambient temperature.
If we're not using frozen fresh water bottles or ice is not available we crack the smaller drain to allow a slow drip in the sand without allowing air transfer.
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[*] posted on 10-25-2015 at 09:20 AM


Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Here is the deal... you want ice to last the longest, use BLOCK ice. You can use some crushed to fill the gaps and have for c-cktails, but it will melt faster. The bags of cube ice will be gone in hours, and are a waste if you have the block option. As we know, the Oxxo stores and other markets usually only have the ice cubes in bags, so better than nothing if you are almost out.


Re block vs cube ice... It takes 80 calories to melt 1 gram block ice. It takes 80 calories to melt 1 gram cubed ice.


Since you only ride a bike or walk in Baja, how would you know? :lol::lol::lol:




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[*] posted on 10-25-2015 at 09:48 AM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Here is the deal... you want ice to last the longest, use BLOCK ice. You can use some crushed to fill the gaps and have for c-cktails, but it will melt faster. The bags of cube ice will be gone in hours, and are a waste if you have the block option. As we know, the Oxxo stores and other markets usually only have the ice cubes in bags, so better than nothing if you are almost out.


Re block vs cube ice... It takes 80 calories to melt 1 gram block ice. It takes 80 calories to melt 1 gram cubed ice.



Since you only ride a bike or walk in Baja, how would you know? :lol::lol::lol:


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[*] posted on 10-25-2015 at 10:35 AM
Interesting tip


From the RTIC cooler site (https://www.rticcoolers.com/cooler-care):

Rock salt tip: rock salt naturally lowers the melting point of water, making it super cold. Add a few handfuls to the top of your ice filled cooler and temperatures will be even lower.
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Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Here is the deal... you want ice to last the longest, use BLOCK ice. You can use some crushed to fill the gaps and have for c-cktails, but it will melt faster. The bags of cube ice will be gone in hours, and are a waste if you have the block option. As we know, the Oxxo stores and other markets usually only have the ice cubes in bags, so better than nothing if you are almost out.


Re block vs cube ice... It takes 80 calories to melt 1 gram block ice. It takes 80 calories to melt 1 gram cubed ice.



Since you only ride a bike or walk in Baja, how would you know? :lol::lol::lol:


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[*] posted on 10-25-2015 at 10:51 AM


Been doing the rock salt tip
when bringing the fish home from BOLA! :cool::cool:
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Quote: Originally posted by woody with a view  
Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Here is the deal... you want ice to last the longest, use BLOCK ice. You can use some crushed to fill the gaps and have for c-cktails, but it will melt faster. The bags of cube ice will be gone in hours, and are a waste if you have the block option. As we know, the Oxxo stores and other markets usually only have the ice cubes in bags, so better than nothing if you are almost out.


Re block vs cube ice... It takes 80 calories to melt 1 gram block ice. It takes 80 calories to melt 1 gram cubed ice.



Since you only ride a bike or walk in Baja, how would you know? :lol::lol::lol:


Some of us just know it all. Some of you just don't. :lol::lol::P:P


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[*] posted on 10-25-2015 at 11:02 AM


Quote: Originally posted by bajaguy  
From the RTIC cooler site (https://www.rticcoolers.com/cooler-care):

Rock salt tip: rock salt naturally lowers the melting point of water, making it super cold. Add a few handfuls to the top of your ice filled cooler and temperatures will be even lower.[/rquote

Careful with the rock salt. We froze a whole tub of beer by putting too much in. Delayed the drinking for a couple minutes.
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Moderation in all things.....except fish tacos and Pacificos

Quote: Originally posted by ehall  
Quote: Originally posted by bajaguy  
From the RTIC cooler site (https://www.rticcoolers.com/cooler-care):

Rock salt tip: rock salt naturally lowers the melting point of water, making it super cold. Add a few handfuls to the top of your ice filled cooler and temperatures will be even lower.[/rquote

Careful with the rock salt. We froze a whole tub of beer by putting too much in. Delayed the drinking for a couple minutes.
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[*] posted on 10-25-2015 at 04:16 PM


Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by woody with a view  
Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Here is the deal... you want ice to last the longest, use BLOCK ice. You can use some crushed to fill the gaps and have for c-cktails, but it will melt faster. The bags of cube ice will be gone in hours, and are a waste if you have the block option. As we know, the Oxxo stores and other markets usually only have the ice cubes in bags, so better than nothing if you are almost out.


Re block vs cube ice... It takes 80 calories to melt 1 gram block ice. It takes 80 calories to melt 1 gram cubed ice.



Since you only ride a bike or walk in Baja, how would you know? :lol::lol::lol:


Some of us just know it all. Some of you just don't. :lol::lol::P:P


that's funny cuz i tell my wife i'm right 98% of the time. not perfect, but i'm working on it!


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