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David K
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They're here for the freebies, by invitation of the democrat party. A group of them was just flown to Hawaii for processing there! Seriously!!??
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I didn't realize that Mexico had freebies, and now Mexico is flying them to Hawaii  |
This web site and me personally are both based in the United States. So when I said 'here', that is the U.S.. Sorry if that wasn't clear. Mexico is
much smarter than us and would never do the stupid things we do, like rewarding law breakers. Look at how they deal with the marine driver of a truck
cab with weapons and ammo that 'accidently' crossed the border!
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bajabuddha
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" Mexico is much smarter than us and would never do the stupid things we do, like rewarding law breakers."
Are we talking about the same Mexico here??? Hoof-in-mouth disease.
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David K
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I am talking about a Mexico that does not have government officials welcome invaders, give free services to invaders, fly invaders to tropical
vacation spots, and allows children to stay in their country without parents... or worse, also invite the parents to join their children!
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bajabuddha
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No. Just accept bribes, buy islands to retire to, sell arms we gave 'em for fighting cartels TO the cartels, stop the flow of these thousands of
Central Americans traversing over 1,000 miles of their soverign turf to get here...
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
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SFandH
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
I am talking about a Mexico that does not have government officials welcome invaders, give free services to invaders, fly invaders to tropical
vacation spots, and allows children to stay in their country without parents... or worse, also invite the parents to join their children!
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You should make your opinions more well know to the people, or "invaders" as you call them, of Central America.
That should stop them from wanting to come here.
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danaeb
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I wonder if Mexico has the same preferential treatment of Cuban "invaders" that the US does (under the Cuban Adjustment Act of 1966).
"Under the CAA, Cubans receive unique and highly favorable treatment, including granting of permanent residency a year after arrival, as well as being
eligible for government benefits, such as Medicaid, supplemental social security income, child care, and disability.
No other foreign nationals enjoy these benefits except for the few who are granted political asylum.
The CAA was passed in 1966 to adjust the status of some 300,000 Cubans who found themselves in legal limbo after fleeing Cuba's socialist revolution
of 1959. Cuba has railed against it.
These days an average of about 36,000-40,000 Cubans arrive each year. Many are selected by a visa lottery, others come under a family reunification
program and there are a handful of political asylum cases. Roughly 10,000 arrive without visas each year, smuggled by boat or via the border with
Mexico,"
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by danaeb
I wonder if Mexico has the same preferential treatment of Cuban "invaders" that the US does (under the Cuban Adjustment Act of 1966).
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Mexico is on good terms with Cuba and doesn't regard the government as oppressive.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by danaeb
others come under a family reunification program and there are a handful of political asylum cases. |
The Miami Cuban community is a strong lobby in Washington. They pretty much get what and who they want.
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I say if they put in the work....let em stay!
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danaeb
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Obama won the Cuban Florida vote by a small margin in 2012. But it does reflect the same political shift among millenials in other demographics.
Their interests are not the same as their grandparents. The hard-line conservative Cuban base is aging and shrinking.
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JoeJustJoe
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
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Read about the Bush-era law that led to the Central American kids coming to the USA:
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The kids who are trying to enter America are supposed to be detained, and get a fair hearing, to ensure that they aren't victims of human
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When was human trafficking suggested with these kids? I haven't heard anything about this. |
Still waiting, Joe. Fill me in...please. |
Just because you haven't heard something Dennis, is that suppose to mean something to me?
If you ask me it just means that you're a "Fox News" watcher and not very informed.
Now go do your own research into the current immigration law for central American kids, under the "William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims
Protection Reauthorization Act of 2008," that the current Obama administration is acting under, thanks to the law Bush signed in 2008. It doesn't
mean that all central American kids are being sexually trafficked, but it is about protecting kids, regardless of citizenship, and it's about due
process, and loopholes that are being exploited legally. This is not an easy fix, and the national guard at the border, like what Rick Perry wants to
do, is stupid, and just about votes.
Now go do you homework, and you'll even find when the GOP is trying to force Obama to overturn this law, however the immigration advocacy groups are
telling Obama, not so fast, what about due process rights of immigrants?
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JoeJustJoe
Now go do you homework, and you'll even find |
What I find from your reply, Joe, is that you can't answer the question.
No surprise.
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DENNIS
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if there's any hint of a suggestion that human trafficking laws have been violated, I fully support an investigation. But, from where I sit, these
laws are being used as a shield from repatriation. There has been no mention of these laws being violated.
Where does it stop? What's the next imagined reason given for keeping them here? Kidnapping? Child labor violations?
This manipulation of law enforcement to satisfy an unrelated agenda scares the sheit out of me.
if anyone is complicit in any kind of trafficking of these kids, it would be those who ushered their safe passage from border to border in Mexico.
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DENNIS
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That's what I get for not using the quote box.
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bajabuddha
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
This.....................scares the sheit out of me.
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There you have it; an elderly conservative white WASP sitting in front of the TV and computer screen, scared sheitless.
Looks like Faux News is doing their job quite well, and selling good copy. Sorry Dennis, but this isn't affecting your life at all... messed up your
garden? Interrupted your mail? Loved ones in danger? No. It's a humanitarian effort, done by the party you despise and everything you are afraid
of.
Be afraid. Be very afraid. They ARE out to get us.
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DENNIS
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Actually, Dave, I don't rely on any news source to form my opinions. I've actually found another, more personal method.
I do, however, watch Fox News and/or CNN for a half hour most days just waiting for the local news.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajabuddha
No. It's a humanitarian effort,
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Only a blind, brain-dead, uninformed lemming could believe that's all it entails.
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danaeb
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DENNIS, please inform us blind, brain-dead, uninformed lemmings, of all that it entails. Por favor.
Edited to include brain-dead. Is that a zombie?
[Edited on 8-1-2014 by danaeb]
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by danaeb
DENNIS, please inform us blind, brain-dead, uninformed lemmings, of all that it entails. Por favor.
Edited to include brain-dead. Is that a zombie?
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The real problem with your question is that, after all the discussion, you don't know.
I'll only say one thing toward your simplistic question:
Our border, has been blasphemed by our own government. That is made all the more sacrilegious when considering all of the American lives lost while
protecting the borders of other countries.
You can research the rest of the reasons. They aren't hard to find for one who wants to see.
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bajabuddha
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
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Only a blind, brain-dead, uninformed lemming could believe that's all it entails. |
That is exactly what I was describing. |
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