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[*] posted on 7-31-2014 at 08:21 AM


Walls can work for either direction.

Communism/ Socialism is so bad that walls were built to keep people from escaping it (East Germany, etc.).

Freedom/ Capitalism is so good that walls are built to limit people from pouring into it. (America)

As America continues to decline, the need for walls will also be gone. If we are no longer better than other countries, then nobody will want to come here. Our own president does not believe in American exceptionalism, after all.




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[*] posted on 7-31-2014 at 09:23 AM


My detractors here, for lack of an effective argument, will soon be saying I'm suggesting the construction of a wall.
Just to be clear...I'm not.
A first strike offensive is more effective than a desperate defense any day. :biggrin:




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[*] posted on 7-31-2014 at 05:02 PM


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From that bastion of left wing thinking, the Wall Street Journal...


Left bastion? Sorry Ron, but last I knew Rupert Murdoch owned the WSJ. You obviously know how left leaning Fox is.

That said, this is a very good read.


Actually, just after I posted, my old brain caught up and realized it was sarcasm.

As this thread continues, I really must make a statement about walls.

The plain and simple fact is that Mexico, our neighbor to the South, is probably the farthest from a hostile nation as one could imagine.

The US has gradually allowed a fringe factor of religious fanatics to gain a grip in the political process. These folks are end-timers, Check that out on your search engines.

The problem is that the oligarchy that has wrested control of this country, who doesn't give a crap about anything or anyone except profits, give funding to these religious fundamentalists,

The top one percent do not believe in nations. They only believe in money. They have no allegiance to any nation. That is our current problem and challenge.
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[*] posted on 7-31-2014 at 05:28 PM


I call them refugees, not migrants.



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[*] posted on 7-31-2014 at 05:37 PM


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I call them refugees, not migrants.


You may not be doing any of them favors. "Refugee" can be hard to qualify and prove.
Not so much for "migrants"... or immigrants.



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[*] posted on 7-31-2014 at 06:04 PM


They're here for the freebies, by invitation of the democrat party. A group of them was just flown to Hawaii for processing there! Seriously!!??

A free Hawaiian vacation for breaking into our country! The Statue of Liberty has a sign taped to her back that reads "Kick Me"!

It was so important for Elian Gonzalez to be torn away from his family by the FBI to be sent back to his father in Cuba, but none of these kids are important enough to be sent back to their parents???





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[*] posted on 7-31-2014 at 07:23 PM


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Originally posted by David K
They're here for the freebies, by invitation of the democrat party. A group of them was just flown to Hawaii for processing there! Seriously!!??

A free Hawaiian vacation for breaking into our country! The Statue of Liberty has a sign taped to her back that reads "Kick Me"!

It was so important for Elian Gonzalez to be torn away from his family by the FBI to be sent back to his father in Cuba, but none of these kids are important enough to be sent back to their parents???

http://www.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/20131111/rs_56...


It looks like David K and Sarah Palin are wrong to blame Obama for the current situation with Central Americans kids coming to the USA. Read about the Bush-era law that led to the Central American kids coming to the USA:
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How a Bush-Era Law Led to Central American Immigration

As rank-and-file Republicans and some conservative pundits like Sarah Palin call for impeaching President Obama over the Central American child immigration issue, it's worth looking at how the whole thing got started.

Palin contends that President Obama isn't following the law. But perhaps we should read what the law actually is. And it turns out that not only is he following the law, but Republicans were among the ones who put together the bill that's leading to the crisis.

Obama is following the "William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2008." Named for the famed English politician who eventually led Great Britain to ban slavery, the law is meant to combat human trafficking. The kids who are trying to enter America are supposed to be detained, and get a fair hearing, to ensure that they aren't victims of human trafficking, a modern-day slavery. The bill covers children from three Latin American countries: El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras.

The bill was co-sponsored by Republicans are Jeff Fortenberry of Nebraska, Ileana Ros-Lehtinen of Florida and Chris Smith of New Jersey. It was also co-sponsored by Democrats John Conyers of Michigan, Zoe Lofgren of California, and Bobby Scott of Virginia. The original sponsor was Howard Berman, a California Democrat.

That law was signed by President George W. Bush on December 23, 2008, while most of us were more concerned with the specter of a stock market meltdown and double-digit unemployment. Obama didn't become president until the following month, yet he's being held accountable for this bill supported by the GOP.

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-a-tures/how-a-bushera-law...
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[*] posted on 7-31-2014 at 07:42 PM


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Read about the Bush-era law that led to the Central American kids coming to the USA:
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The kids who are trying to enter America are supposed to be detained, and get a fair hearing, to ensure that they aren't victims of human trafficking, a modern-day slavery.


When was human trafficking suggested with these kids? I haven't heard anything about this.




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[*] posted on 7-31-2014 at 08:13 PM


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They're here for the freebies, by invitation of the democrat party. A group of them was just flown to Hawaii for processing there! Seriously!!??


I didn't realize that Mexico had freebies, and now Mexico is flying them to Hawaii :?:
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[*] posted on 8-1-2014 at 02:00 AM


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They're here for the freebies, by invitation of the democrat party. A group of them was just flown to Hawaii for processing there! Seriously!!??


I didn't realize that Mexico had freebies, and now Mexico is flying them to Hawaii :?:

Prolly got it off Palin's new website. Or the new Faux News Toilet Paper: "Wipe Up America!"




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[*] posted on 8-1-2014 at 03:12 AM


Some people keep getting Mexico confused with the USA. I cant find where George Bush or Obama were ever President of Mexico, musta slipped right by me. I think Mexico should ship em all to Vancouver BC.



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[*] posted on 8-1-2014 at 03:16 AM


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Some people keep getting Mexico confused with the USA. I cant find where George Bush or Obama were ever President of Mexico, musta slipped right by me. I think Mexico should ship em all to Vancouver BC.

Ya think, eh? I've always felt that the initials B.C.S. isn't Baja California Sur, but British Columbia South from Oct-Mar (no offense meant). If they all can snowbird down for the winter, let's send some wait-staff north for the summertime.... tit for tat.
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[*] posted on 8-1-2014 at 03:43 AM


I love it when you talk dirty....



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[*] posted on 8-1-2014 at 06:43 AM


It's Bushes fault ... :lol::lol::lol:

Thanks I needed that one ...




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[*] posted on 8-1-2014 at 06:46 AM


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Read about the Bush-era law that led to the Central American kids coming to the USA:
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The kids who are trying to enter America are supposed to be detained, and get a fair hearing, to ensure that they aren't victims of human trafficking, a modern-day slavery.


When was human trafficking suggested with these kids? I haven't heard anything about this.



Still waiting, Joe. Fill me in...please.




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[*] posted on 8-1-2014 at 07:05 AM


This is interesting............

The bill was co-sponsored by Republicans are Jeff Fortenberry of Nebraska, Ileana Ros-Lehtinen of Florida and Chris Smith of New Jersey.

It was also co-sponsored by Democrats John Conyers of Michigan, Zoe Lofgren of California, and Bobby Scott of Virginia.

The original sponsor was Howard Berman, a California Democrat.



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They're here for the freebies, by invitation of the democrat party. A group of them was just flown to Hawaii for processing there! Seriously!!??

A free Hawaiian vacation for breaking into our country! The Statue of Liberty has a sign taped to her back that reads "Kick Me"!

It was so important for Elian Gonzalez to be torn away from his family by the FBI to be sent back to his father in Cuba, but none of these kids are important enough to be sent back to their parents???

http://www.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/20131111/rs_56...


It looks like David K and Sarah Palin are wrong to blame Obama for the current situation with Central Americans kids coming to the USA. Read about the Bush-era law that led to the Central American kids coming to the USA:
__________________________________________________
How a Bush-Era Law Led to Central American Immigration

As rank-and-file Republicans and some conservative pundits like Sarah Palin call for impeaching President Obama over the Central American child immigration issue, it's worth looking at how the whole thing got started.

Palin contends that President Obama isn't following the law. But perhaps we should read what the law actually is. And it turns out that not only is he following the law, but Republicans were among the ones who put together the bill that's leading to the crisis.

Obama is following the "William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2008." Named for the famed English politician who eventually led Great Britain to ban slavery, the law is meant to combat human trafficking. The kids who are trying to enter America are supposed to be detained, and get a fair hearing, to ensure that they aren't victims of human trafficking, a modern-day slavery. The bill covers children from three Latin American countries: El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras.

The bill was co-sponsored by Republicans are Jeff Fortenberry of Nebraska, Ileana Ros-Lehtinen of Florida and Chris Smith of New Jersey. It was also co-sponsored by Democrats John Conyers of Michigan, Zoe Lofgren of California, and Bobby Scott of Virginia. The original sponsor was Howard Berman, a California Democrat.

That law was signed by President George W. Bush on December 23, 2008, while most of us were more concerned with the specter of a stock market meltdown and double-digit unemployment. Obama didn't become president until the following month, yet he's being held accountable for this bill supported by the GOP.

read the rest here:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-a-tures/how-a-bushera-law...




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[*] posted on 8-1-2014 at 07:37 AM


What's the deal with Democrats using the Christianity of some Republicans when it suits them but fight against it all other times? That's what happens when you have NO FACTS to argue with.

Fact's are; Republicans give 4x more to charities than Democrats.

Fact; Democrats are fine with lying on tests, lying to their spouses, and lying on their taxes at a rate of 3x more than Republicans do. So, like always, your money isn't where your mouths are unless your lying.

Fact; the Dream Act was suppose to take of this problem 30 years ago. The Democrats LIED, got what they wanted and never built the fence despite being FUNDED.

We'll take care of the kids (Republicans always do) and Christian charities have already stepped up and are doing so. The problem is, Democrats caused this problem, and they are perpetuating it. They are USING these children to further their agenda of obtaining votes through lies and demonizing Republicans and relieving us of, and controlling more of OUR money.

Do you really think these 600 idiots in Washington know more than 200 years of laws and our Constitution? Nancy Peloci couldn't pass a 4th grade test in English, math, science or geography.
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[*] posted on 8-1-2014 at 07:46 AM


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Nancy Peloci couldn't pass a 4th grade test in English, math, science or geography.


Democrats are trying to pass a law saying you can't give a test to a baboon.




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[*] posted on 8-1-2014 at 08:00 AM


This is an interactive map of demographics from 1940-2000 in Los Angeles

http://www.kcet.org/updaily/socal_focus/places/maps-a-quick-...

It might be instructive ... as it relates to immigration and this may help in understanding the impact on other poor, who are in fact American Citizens


And I agree with this man's statement ... Just enforce the current laws .... We don't need a re-write of Immigration Laws, rather just enforcement of current laws on same

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