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[*] posted on 8-10-2014 at 11:43 AM


Last year, we took a 28 day escorted RV tour with Baja Amigos, a great company by the way. One of the rigs was a 45 footer. The comments about width of the roads and lack of shoulders are right on. Using two way radios, our tour guides alerted us when a bus or truck was heading our way. This didn't make the roads any wider, but it gave ample time for the pucker up factor. We are going back next March by ourselves. Enjoy, it will be one of best trips ever. We did have one 29ft Class C lose a mirror, hit by a north bound RV, but the tour guides had a spare.

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[*] posted on 8-10-2014 at 02:42 PM


Typical 18 wheeler pass.

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[*] posted on 8-10-2014 at 03:28 PM
This is the type of mirror that I have, too!


Is it in a fixed position or did you make it so it can "swivel" ?
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[*] posted on 8-10-2014 at 03:37 PM


Don't over-stress out before your trip, Seajet. Do what your Wagonmaster tells you when you get on the road. Compared to just 5 years ago, the road is a lot wider and safer than ever. Some stretches are a sphincter-factor of 4 (on a 1 - 5 scale) if nothing goes wrong, but they're fewer and farther between, with newly widened construction going on all the time. You'll be fine.

Also remember the ol' driver's ed. rule: look DOWN THE ROAD a ways while driving, and mean-time practice driving with your right tires on the white line here Stateside, it'll help. Do some narrow roads near your place... practice, practice, practice. Get used to your rig so it's second nature.

Have a wonderful trip, but be warned; IT MAY BE HABIT-FORMING. :!:




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[*] posted on 8-10-2014 at 06:50 PM


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Is it in a fixed position or did you make it so it can "swivel" ?


Met a Class A'er at the Riviera RV park in Loreto years ago. Between GN and Loreto, his driver side mirror was side swiped while he drove South. On that stretch, on that day, same thing happened to my RV.

Move and swivel the mirrors inward or they might get clipped.
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[*] posted on 8-11-2014 at 02:39 PM


The width of your rig is more of a concern than the length....as pointed out there are sideswipes more than head-ons.
Yes, some road widening in some places, but plenty of narrow lanes with NO shoulder before dangerous drops off the pavement.

Be careful, enjoy the trip, and keep yer eyes open fore and aft.

[Edited on 8-12-2014 by motoged]




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[*] posted on 8-11-2014 at 05:15 PM


I had a 45' Monaco and was the reason I sold it and bought property instead.
I have driven the entire length of the Peninsula many-many times, but until I bought the Monaco, I never looked at it with a critical eye toward the RV.

Here is my list of negative concerns:

Every town you drive through has speed bumps. Each speed bump (TOPE) is 8-10" high. Every time your rear axle drives over the tope, the tag axle WILL bottom out, causing a strain on your coach's chassis, and may crack the frame.

There are only a handful of areas to pull over for overnight rests.

There is no 50 Amp electric at any RV park in Baja, and in most places (5 RV parks between Ensenada and Cabo) 2-20 amp plus are also suspect.

In LA Paz, there is only one RV park that could accommodate your RV, 3 in Los Barriles (very tight corners), and one in Cabo.

The road between San Ignacio and Santa Rosalia, is extremely narrow and very hilly. Chances are you'll come across an encounter with a truck, bus or another RV. So be very cautious.

The last reason for selling it was the salt-air wear factor. I have seen what salt air does RVs. Cabinet doors won't open, tools rust, etc. etc.




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[*] posted on 8-11-2014 at 11:11 PM
Trip or big nightmare job !!


Hola,,I would try driving the "Highway" (used loosely") with anything for your first time rather than a 45' RV & toad ....my personal claim to fame is that I have towed a boat to Alaska (4)and Panama(1) and back and 25+ winters towing in baja !! (35 winters) no one can touch that !!.....point BEing is,, do you wanna tow,, or do you wanna do Baja???? K&T:cool:
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[*] posted on 8-12-2014 at 08:29 AM


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Hola,,I would try driving the "Highway" (used loosely") with anything for your first time rather than a 45' RV & toad ....my personal claim to fame is that I have towed a boat to Alaska (4)and Panama(1) and back and 25+ winters towing in baja !! (35 winters) no one can touch that !!.....point BEing is,, do you wanna tow,, or do you wanna do Baja???? K&T:cool:


Good advice, except that it sounds like Seajet is already signed up and committed to the trip with an RV, and has been given a lot of good advice already. As to your comment that no one can touch the number of tows you have made to Baja, I would think Pompano would be a serious contender for that title with over 40 years traveling to Baja. Haven't seen any of his posts for awhile, really miss seeing them.
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[*] posted on 8-12-2014 at 09:37 AM


Thanks for all the replies and the really good advice. My bus is all-electric and I do need a minimum of 30A. I talked to the wagonmaster and he told me my power needs will be a problem. One of the campgrounds they usually go to would also be problematic size-wise due to palm trees. All this leads me to start thinking about renting a smaller RV because I want to enjoy the trip and not have to worry all the time.

[Edited on 8-12-2014 by Seajet]
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[*] posted on 8-12-2014 at 09:42 AM


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Thanks for all the replies and the really good advice. My bus is all-electric and I do need a minimum of 30A. I talked to the wagonmaster and he told me my power needs will be a problem. Onoe of the campgrounds they usually go to would also be problematic size-wise due to plam trees. All this leads me to start thinking about renting a smaller RV because I want to enjoy the trip and not have to worry all the time.





I personally think that is an outstanding idea,, go for it
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[*] posted on 8-12-2014 at 10:36 AM


question. is this your own motorhome or do you rent it from Fantasy RV and does the motorhome trip start in new hampshire?? just curious :?:
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[*] posted on 8-12-2014 at 10:47 AM


The short answer is yes, no and possibly. My wife and I are retired and we travel in the bus for most part of the year. So we would be working our way across the country starting way before the first snow fall and eventually join the tour in San Diego, where it begins. But, as indicated above, we will have to switch into something smaller to be able to really enjoy the trip.
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[*] posted on 8-12-2014 at 11:16 AM


Great idea...and rent something that does not have a TAG axle. I know you can raise it, but you will not be able to raise it enough.


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Thanks for all the replies and the really good advice. My bus is all-electric and I do need a minimum of 30A. I talked to the wagonmaster and he told me my power needs will be a problem. One of the campgrounds they usually go to would also be problematic size-wise due to palm trees. All this leads me to start thinking about renting a smaller RV because I want to enjoy the trip and not have to worry all the time.

[Edited on 8-12-2014 by Seajet]




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[*] posted on 8-12-2014 at 05:38 PM


Udo's points, particularly on the speed bumps "topas" are right on. However, if you have enough warning, which you should have with someone leading, you can slow to a speed that will be much less jarring, even with a tag axle going over them. From your experience with being almost a full time RVer, you are far from a novice driver. I'm sure you would have no problem navigating the Baja road and would be able to maneuver almost anywhere with no problem. You will be charging your house batteries while driving, and won't need much power beyond your refrigerator. Air conditioning during the spring when you are going won't be necessary. Running your generator to recharge will be no different than the normal courtesy protocol used in most campgrounds in the US.

The up side of taking your own rig and Toad will be;
Comfort of your own home.
Shower and personal kitchen and various personal items.
Toad available to take side trips as time permits. Example- You will undoubtedly be staying on Conception bay with miles of beautiful beach camping. Ability to get into nearby Mulege and do some exploring or shopping on your own a big plus.
I have found that you can find a way to fit into most of the RV parks in Baja although some are challenging.
You won't need more than 30 amps to be comfortable at that time of year.
I'm sure the Caravan your taking has had 45 footers before. Do they have any concerns?

The down side:
As Udo pointed out, the Baja road is hard on any RV, particularly the large ones. Plan on something shaking loose, hopefully mostly minor items. The road keeps getting better, but still needs a lot of work in sections.
Having to leave your RV and Toad somewhere safe in San Diego and renting a smaller one without the comfort level you have in your RV.

Having traveled Baja with a 43ft RV with 4 door jeep many times with no problems, and knowing most of the pitfalls, if I were you I would go for it with your own rig. I only say this having seen that you are an experienced RV handler and the odds are with you. Most of my problems with plowing into topas has been not paying attention to the advance warning signs. Not the same with unseen potholes however. It seems every village chief along the way must have authority to put up as many topas as his local front end alignment shops can handle the business for.:lol::lol:
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[*] posted on 8-12-2014 at 07:06 PM


Again, I do appreciate all of your comments. Quite obviously, most of you have enjoyed Baja for a long time. After having spoken to the wagonmaster, I have decided it will be best to leave our bus behind in storage on the US side and to either rent or possibly buy a smaller RV.
Furthermore, another concern of mine is, that our bus is a moving neon sign. Just go the YouTube and search "Teschner Prevost" and you will see what I mean. ... :-)
Furthermore, even though a talked my wife into getting and wearing a "vamp" style wig, you would really not want to hear her sing.
:-)
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PS: Udo, besten Dank fuer die Kommentare!
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[*] posted on 8-12-2014 at 08:10 PM


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... I cannot really see driving to be that much more difficult. Otherwise, people would stay away. Then again, at 45ft length and a weight of 54,000 lbs, I am surely in the minority

You were correct in the 2nd and 3rd sentence. People with 45ft motorhomes do stay away, they are a minority here. It's a fun place to be, not to drive big rigs.

Somebody mentioned hiring a Mex taxi driver for motorhome - it was a good one :). Seriously, to "see" Baja, you don't have to take your motorhome there. A plane to Loreto, hotel, rental car to get around - is all you need. Less stress, more freedom, and very likely same comfort for less money. Though if you need a guide, a group travel is the only choice then. I would suggest to stop worrying, this is what guides are for. There will be a power on most camps, and as others noted, March isn't that hot to need two A/C - or even one A/C on some days. Filtered water in 5-gal jars is everywhere, and, as noted, you won't get sick of taking a shower with camp water lines.

Edit-PS: being late to discussion, I haven't read the last OP post - the problem has apparently resolved by itself, as I can see.

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[*] posted on 8-13-2014 at 05:25 AM


Yes, Olivia is very beautiful, but leaving her home is a good idea for the first trip. On your next trip where you might want to stay in one place for awhile, she would be very comfy.( you may want to cover her `tat` for baja :) :) ;)
Curious what you will chose for the small baja RV, let us know please. A 2014 VW bus maybe or the 6x6 Wothahelizat maybe :)




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[*] posted on 8-13-2014 at 09:55 AM


out of curiosity, since the invention and popularity of the slide out, do 45' motorhomes really need to be 8 1/2' wide?? how bout a 7' wide coach? make it easier on everyone when traveling narrow roads!

(just thinking out loud)
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[*] posted on 8-13-2014 at 10:01 AM


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out of curiosity, since the invention and popularity of the slide out, do 45' motorhomes really need to be 8 1/2' wide?? how bout a 7' wide coach? make it easier on everyone when traveling narrow roads!

(just thinking out loud)


Good thinking but would they sell in the US where narrow roads are rare compared to miles and miles of superslabs? If they were a lot cheaper I suppose.
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