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sancho
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I think Mex cops might use the Sindacutra sticker as a napkin
after lunch
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Bob53
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The last time I was pulled over was in San Quintin a couple years ago. The officer came over and shook my hand and introduced himself. He pointed out
that my trailer lights were not working. He was very polite and said that it was not safe at night. I explained that I was parking about 2 miles down
the road. I wiggled the trailer wire plug and got the lights to work and he shook my hand again and told me to have a safe trip. Not all cops are bad.
The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JohnK
So - how would you have handled the situation? |
Sorry you were ripped off... next time:
Just say NO.
What if you didn't have $900 pesos? Never have all your trip money in one place or where the cop can see it.
By law, cops are NOT allowed to take money from drivers. IF you really broke a law, go to the station and pay a small fine (much less than the same
offense in the U.S.).
What happened is they know you are scared and fear going to jain in Mexico, so they have their way with you. IF you are sure you didn't run a stop
sign or do anything, then be firm, but polite... SMILE, NOD, and REFUSE to pay the cop... say you will follow him to the judge/ station and pay
there... Without exception, the cop will stop before the station, return your license, and send you on your way to go after easier prey.
Read the post by Paulina how she handled the cop that was stupid enough to pull her over!
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UnoMas
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I never pay mordita to the cops. Just hold my ground and tell them I will pay at the station, have always been let go with a warning after some some
back and forth discussion once they realize I am not an easy mark.
Just look at it like you made a nice contribution to his Christmas fund. You can expect it to get worse as the holidays get closer.
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mulegemichael
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you've already mentioned it here; it's all over the internet by now.....no big deal....i now tell local cops to kiss my ass and take me to the
station....not the feds but the local cops....if you can make eye contact and are firm, yer gonna drive right outta there....i have been shook down
waaaaaayyy to many times to have it happen again.....just look them in the eye and challenge them to arrest you...seems like we do it yearly on our
trips north and south...no time for it.
dyslexia is never having to say you\'re yrros.
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JohnK
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Thank you all for the input. As my wife just said, "now we know".
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DawnPatrol
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| Quote: | Originally posted by motoged
| Quote: | Originally posted by DawnPatrol
And you could also hand him the "Sindicatura" card ...
[Edited on 10-27-2014 by DawnPatrol] |
Where/how do I get this "card" ?
I have downloaded the "apple w/ a bite" image a few years ago from this forum, but don't think this is "the card". |
My card is very shopworn and faded, so it wouldnt scan good...
But the address for the S.O.S (Support of Sindicatura) is
7349 Milliken Ave #140-234
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
This is a very old card and I dont even know if they are a viable place any longer
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nandopedal
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If you wish to blow the whistle send it to: denuncia@sindicatura.gob.mx
\"There are many dangers in Baja. The most serious of which is not going.\" Christophe Noel (EXPO)
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Bob53
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So are you actually required, by law, to hand over your driver's license to the police officer?
The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
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gallesram
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob53
So are you actually required, by law, to hand over your driver's license to the police officer? |
Good question; I'd like to know if anyone knows the answer. I'll bet the law probably says something like "present" a driver's license upon request,
which is vague.
I never give the officer possession; I hold it in my hand so he can read it and see it's current. If he reaches for it I pull it back. Frankly, it's
all pretty nerve-racking but an unfortunate part of the game of chicken. I haven't yet had the officer demand physical possession, but that doesn't
mean it isn't required.
I think it's a matter of conveying to the officer that you know the game that's being played and you're not going to pay; therefore this is a big
waste of his time.
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Bajaboy
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I find a bit of irony here. Some are saying to pay at the station when pulled over by a cop but then insist it's okay to pay an immigration official
in lieu of paying at the bank.
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woody with a view
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| Quote: | Originally posted by gallesram
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob53
So are you actually required, by law, to hand over your driver's license to the police officer? |
Good question; I'd like to know if anyone knows the answer. I'll bet the law probably says something like "present" a driver's license upon request,
which is vague.
I never give the officer possession; I hold it in my hand so he can read it and see it's current. If he reaches for it I pull it back. Frankly, it's
all pretty nerve-racking but an unfortunate part of the game of chicken. I haven't yet had the officer demand physical possession, but that doesn't
mean it isn't required.
I think it's a matter of conveying to the officer that you know the game that's being played and you're not going to pay; therefore this is a big
waste of his time. |
I've also heard that in small towns the turds will take your license plate(s) if your car is parked illegally. to get them back you go to the cop
shop, pay the fine and get your plates back.
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gallesram
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| Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
| Quote: | Originally posted by gallesram
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob53
So are you actually required, by law, to hand over your driver's license to the police officer? |
Good question; I'd like to know if anyone knows the answer. I'll bet the law probably says something like "present" a driver's license upon request,
which is vague.
I never give the officer possession; I hold it in my hand so he can read it and see it's current. If he reaches for it I pull it back. Frankly, it's
all pretty nerve-racking but an unfortunate part of the game of chicken. I haven't yet had the officer demand physical possession, but that doesn't
mean it isn't required.
I think it's a matter of conveying to the officer that you know the game that's being played and you're not going to pay; therefore this is a big
waste of his time. |
I've also heard that in small towns the turds will take your license plate(s) if your car is parked illegally. to get them back you go to the cop
shop, pay the fine and get your plates back. |
That has happened to me; actually it was in Acapulco and that's exactly what I had to do. The fine wasn't much but the process was a major pain; not
a fun way to eat up vacation time.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
I've also heard that in small towns the turds will take your license plate(s) if your car is parked illegally. to get them back you go to the cop
shop, pay the fine and get your plates back. |
This was SOP in Mexico for years. Street cops would walk around with pliers and a screwdriver in their pockets.
Now the have Uzi's.
"YOU CAN'T LITTER ALUMINUM"
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monoloco
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Maybe we should start carrying cheap cordless screwdrivers to offer up as bribes.
"The future ain't what it used to be"
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by monoloco
Maybe we should start carrying cheap cordless screwdrivers to offer up as bribes. |
If they want them, they'll take them because they resemble firearms. 
"YOU CAN'T LITTER ALUMINUM"
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
I find a bit of irony here. Some are saying to pay at the station when pulled over by a cop but then insist it's okay to pay an immigration official
in lieu of paying at the bank. |
Immigration officials who are authorized to accept the tourist card tax, with a cash drawer in their office, stamping it paid... NOT under the table
and wink wink. It has been available service since early 2012... I confirmed it at Tijuana and Tecate and posted the news here. Earlier that year
others before me reported that INM was now legally taking the money to alleviate the need for an open bank at the border the same hours as the border
is open.
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Bajaboy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
I find a bit of irony here. Some are saying to pay at the station when pulled over by a cop but then insist it's okay to pay an immigration official
in lieu of paying at the bank. |
Immigration officials who are authorized to accept the tourist card tax, with a cash drawer in their office, stamping it paid... NOT under the table
and wink wink. It has been available service since early 2012... I confirmed it at Tijuana and Tecate and posted the news here. Earlier that year
others before me reported that INM was now legally taking the money to alleviate the need for an open bank at the border the same hours as the border
is open. |
Please show me where in writing that it is okay to pay the immigration officer? I'm sure the police officer that takes cash directly would say the
same thing
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woody with a view
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Zac, he CONFIRMED it. what else do you need? everyone knows that an experience in Mex is mostly a one time thing..... CONFIRMED would be like aliens
are landing on the lawn of the White House. not trying to be racial......
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