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[*] posted on 10-29-2014 at 06:28 PM
IDIOT DRIVERS???


Who drives "The UPS Store" rig???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkkjKvaSLgs&list=UUMAzvp...




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[*] posted on 10-29-2014 at 06:52 PM


I don't know what kind of kick this guy gets out of chasing horses in Baja!



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[*] posted on 10-29-2014 at 07:07 PM


David, the YouTube video clearly states "horse chase".....these guys were committing an act of animal abuse. They were clearly chasing the horses The horses would have decided to get off the road if the guy would have stopped the vehicle. He didn't need to say anything, his actions speak volumes

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Ummm... it looks to me that he is driving fast on a dirt road in Baja and came upon the horses on the road, also running. The horses decided to not get off the road until near the end of the video. I don't see the guy hitting them or getting as close to them as he could if he was a 'horse hater'. I didn't turn on the sound, was he saying anti-horse things like he wanted to do them harm?

What were his options other than wait for them to get off the road and continue, which is what he did?




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[*] posted on 10-29-2014 at 07:19 PM


David this is the title of the video.........

"Horse Chase - 2014 Baja 1000 Pre Run "

For you to defend this type of behavior is irresponsible and incomprehensible.......your responses speak volumes




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[*] posted on 10-29-2014 at 07:21 PM


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The title of the video does not indicate what the purpose of his Mexico trip was, but only an odd event. I saw him driving and then there were horses already running in front, so he followed them until they got off the road.

If he never posted the video of the horses, it didn't mean it never happened. I think it happens a lot, in Mexico? There was a horse with a saddle running in front of a Trophy Truck, filmed by a helicopter, doing the same... running in front until finally getting off the road, at a recent Baja race televised.

Maybe anger should be directed at the horses' owners who allow them to be loose... much the way dog owners are responsible if their dog is in the street?


This guys was pre running. the video was given to SCORE and sent UPS his sponsor.

So no more open range in Mexico DK. hmmm I wish I could see you express this to the horse owners.
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[*] posted on 10-29-2014 at 07:22 PM


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David, the YouTube video clearly states "horse chase".....these guys were committing an act of animal abuse. They were clearly chasing the horses The horses would have decided to get off the road if the guy would have stopped the vehicle. He didn't need to say anything, his actions speak volumes



A number of comments have been sent to SCORE and to UPS, the sponsors.

It was wrong and does the entire sport harm.
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[*] posted on 10-29-2014 at 07:23 PM


Baja guy, UDO-
I just wasted 3:46 of my life watching that video. Animal cruelty it is NOT! You may want to have a stiff drink, take a deep breath and review it again.
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[*] posted on 10-29-2014 at 07:26 PM


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David this is the title of the video.........

"Horse Chase - 2014 Baja 1000 Pre Run "

For you to defend this type of behavior is irresponsible and incomprehensible.......your responses speak volumes


If I saw bad behavior or attempted animal cruelty, I would be against it as an animal lover myself. I saw none, and can't figure how you guys did... running horses is now cruel? Running them OVER is... the driver did not!




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[*] posted on 10-29-2014 at 07:28 PM


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Baja guy, UDO-
I just wasted 3:46 of my life watching that video. Animal cruelty it is NOT! You may want to have a stiff drink, take a deep breath and review it again.


From a racers perspective, this is not how we want to advertise and promote our sport.
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[*] posted on 10-29-2014 at 07:31 PM


David, the title of the video was "horse chase"......well, I guess that means he was chasing them. I wasted 3:46 of my life too, watching a guy in a truck following some horses galloping down the road. He didn't appear to be going fast or following closely, I saw lots of places where the horses could have easily left the roadway but none of that matters, the title of the video is "HORSE CHASE"!!!! so I guess that must be what he was doing:lol::lol::lol::lol:
Drop it David, they are going to start calling you names to shut you up, don't give them the satisfaction....




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[*] posted on 10-29-2014 at 07:33 PM


OK, so note to all racers with Go Pro cameras... DON'T SHARE YOUR INTERACTIONS with Mexican farm animals, even if no harm came to them.

The three monkeys come to mind: See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil.





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[*] posted on 10-29-2014 at 07:33 PM


Rts-
That may be true, but still is a long way from animal cruelty.
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[*] posted on 10-29-2014 at 07:34 PM


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Baja guy, UDO-
I just wasted 3:46 of my life watching that video. Animal cruelty it is NOT! You may want to have a stiff drink, take a deep breath and review it again.


From a racers perspective, this is not how we want to advertise and promote our sport.



Definitely not, weather he was "chasing" them or not he is at least guilty of being stupid to show the video in the first place.




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[*] posted on 10-29-2014 at 07:36 PM


DT-
Well said.... Over and out on this topic!
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David, the title of the video was "horse chase"......well, I guess that means he was chasing them. I wasted 3:46 of my life too, watching a guy in a truck following some horses galloping down the road. He didn't appear to be going fast or following closely, I saw lots of places where the horses could have easily left the roadway but none of that matters, the title of the video is "HORSE CHASE"!!!! so I guess that must be what he was doing:lol::lol::lol::lol:
Drop it David, they are going to start calling you names to shut you up, don't give them the satisfaction....


Thanks David... yup, they will come after me, for speaking truth, common sense, or the facts... and it is all just my observations and didn't call them any names. Mob rule is how they try and silence opposition.




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[*] posted on 10-29-2014 at 07:43 PM


This is not good!!! Very bad for reputation of the race and the racers. I am sure if the farmer sees this he will do all he can to ensure the race doesn't cross his land, and maybe so will some of his fellow ranchers, maybe not this race but in the future. There are a lot of folks that would love to see this race stopped and this is just fuel to the fire. Does it happen "yep" should it have been posted "nope". It's out there now and there will be a storm. He should have pulled over and stopped, it will cost him. Some of us would like to keep Baja open and wild, this stuff does not help. Condoning it does not help ether.
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[*] posted on 10-29-2014 at 09:30 PM


David your comments are beyond ignorant even for you!! We have over 20 years of experience with horses in our business, horses are flight animals, they panic when frightened! This idiot driver should have stopped a few minutes and let them settle down and then proceed! These horses will have suffered severe hoof bruising and if one of them was a pregnant mare she could very well have aborted after been run full out for this long! Clearly the drivers were getting their jollies by doing this reprehensible act of cruelty! Hopefully there will be some repercussions for this act, it reflects badly on the whole racing community!



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[*] posted on 10-29-2014 at 09:36 PM


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Who drives "The UPS Store" rig???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkkjKvaSLgs&list=UUMAzvp...


Just looks like your average knuckle dragging off roader.

P.s. Dk is wrong to approve of this, it's inhumane behaviour
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[*] posted on 10-29-2014 at 09:45 PM


Goat, the average off-roader does not approve of this and are the ones who elevated it for some kind of remedy. It is not the image they want to portray,. thanks for the help though.


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Who drives "The UPS Store" rig???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkkjKvaSLgs&list=UUMAzvp...


Just looks like your average knuckle dragging off roader.

P.s. Dk is wrong to approve of this, it's inhumane behaviour
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[*] posted on 10-29-2014 at 11:25 PM


The video came up as "private....unavailable for viewing"....so I can't waste 3.XX minutes watching it....

However, as an off-roader, animal-appreciator, and human being, I think that it is inappropriate to not consider the animal's world when using our machines to traverse it.



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