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Massive demonstration planned in Tijuana this Sunday for missing Mexican students
"Ya Me Canse" is the motto of this demonstration. Ya Me Canse means "I am tired already". This is what the Mayor stated to the press and the people
when he was asked questions about the missing students. Native Tijuanenses are planning a civil demonstration at the Cuauhtemoc Glorietta in Zona
Rio. Tijuana, a public outcry to return, dead or alive, the missing students this coming Sunday, December 16th, at 5:30 PM. Ya Me Canse has a double
meaning, the people of the Mexican Republic are tired and want answers now.
[Edited on 11-13-2014 by EnsenadaDr]
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YaMeCanse
......"Attorney general Murillo Karam says that he doesn't regret having said YaMeCanse, which has become a leading slogan for the growing political
unrest taking over Mexico.".......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0aTpSS-vPU
[Edited on 11-13-2014 by bajaguy]
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That is the literal translation doc, what he said was 'Enough, I am tired of this".
He could have said "Ya basta!" but that is a bit more crude.
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Where can one find more information about the planned demonstration, please? What on-line source?
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https://www.facebook.com/Desinformemonos/photos/a.2029761497...
after you reach the page go one picture backwards and you will see the posting.
| Quote: | Originally posted by Mulegena
Where can one find more information about the planned demonstration, please? What on-line source? |
[Edited on 11-13-2014 by EnsenadaDr]
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EnsenadaDr
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How I found out the difference of the meaning of basta and Ya, was in class my teacher said, the class is dismissed. And I said, now? And she
answered, "YA" and she explained YA meant now. Basta is enough. You have to live the language to experience it Greengoes. | Quote: | Originally posted by greengoes
That is the literal translation doc, what he said was 'Enough, I am tired of this".
He could have said "Ya basta!" but that is a bit more crude. |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
https://www.facebook.com/Desinformemonos/photos/a.2029761497...
after you reach the page go one picture backwards and you will see the posting.
| Quote: | Originally posted by Mulegena
Where can one find more information about the planned demonstration, please? What on-line source? |
[Edited on 11-13-2014 by EnsenadaDr] |
This links to a photo. I saw no reference to a planned demonstration
on November 16 (not Dec. 16 i assume). Will you please guide us to your news source? I'm sure I've missed something.
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Maria Rubio a very well connected Tijuana socialite, who attends all the high level functions in Tijuana posted it on her page. She was a high level
administrator working in health care in San Diego and is a very reliable information source. However I just put in the information in Google and came
up with many news sources.
http://www.oem.com.mx/elsoldetijuana/notas/n3602614.htm
among others. Hope this helps.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
https://www.facebook.com/Desinformemonos/photos/a.2029761497...
after you reach the page go one picture backwards and you will see the posting.
| Quote: | Originally posted by Mulegena
Where can one find more information about the planned demonstration, please? What on-line source? |
[Edited on 11-13-2014 by EnsenadaDr] |
This links to a photo. I saw no reference to a planned demonstration
on November 16 (not Dec. 16 i assume). Will you please guide us to your news source? I'm sure I've missed something. |
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Thank you.
Citing a news source that references quotes makes all the difference in credible reporting.
I'm glad they're emphasizing a peaceful tone to the planned convocation.
Perhaps a Baja Nomad will attend and do a follow-up report.
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They're DEAD.
And will be found.
Protests won't change that.
Fun for the protestors, though.
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Ill refer this to JoeJustJoe. He's the only Nomad I know that frequents TJ. | Quote: | Originally posted by Mulegena
Thank you.
Citing a news source that references quotes makes all the difference in credible reporting.
I'm glad they're emphasizing a peaceful tone to the planned convocation.
Perhaps a Baja Nomad will attend and do a follow-up report. |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
How I found out the difference of the meaning of basta and Ya, was in class my teacher said, the class is dismissed. And I said, now? And she
answered, "YA" and she explained YA meant now. Basta is enough. You have to live the language to experience it Greengoes. |
Yep. Did she also mention there is no literal translation to English of ya? Kinda like se. We may be in murky waters doc. You went to school for
Spanish? Ya Garantizado o dinero atras!
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No Greengoes it was my medical school. I didn't speak much Spanish when I started so I sort of learned as I went along.
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the future of mexico lies in its youth - i hope the youth revolt and throw out the garbage their parents put in place!
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And then what???
| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
the future of mexico lies in its youth - i hope the youth revolt and throw out the garbage their parents put in place! |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
......"Attorney general Murillo Karam says that he doesn't regret having said YaMeCanse, ...
[Edited on 11-13-2014 by bajaguy] |
An article I read (sorry, did not keep the URL) indicated that he was expressing his degree of fatigue as he had not slept in 40 hours.
Lots can be lost in the translation....and the phrase is being applied in different ways, depending on the person using it in response to this
tragedy....
Don't believe everything you think....
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YES, power to the people! It sends a message!
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I believe Murillo Karam WAS using the phrase as an indicator of how tired he was.
Problem is, what he said just happened to sum up the frustration that so many Mexicans in this country feel; with respect to the grip that the cartels
have on this country. It pervades their police forces, their political parties, their prison system, their judicial system......even their military,
at times.
What's left?
Remember how Calderon refused to use the Mexican army for big incursions against the cartels because they always got advanced notice? The Mexican Navy
was the only branch he trusted.
Yes, Karam was tired. But it was inevitable that it would be used in the manner it has been by the average Mexican. The frustration has gotten too
great. And it sums up the feelings of many in this country (not just protesters) so perfectly.
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The man is the Attorney General of Mexico. After an hour long interview he made that statement after not being able to answer questions. Maybe he is a
good guy but he screwed the pooch when he said that.
It is similar to Mr. Holder saying "I'm outta here" and then resigning.
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