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danzanti
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Ensenada El Estuche road in the future?
Greeting Nomads,
So we bought an acre of beachfront about a ten minute skiff ride south from Villa Del Palmar (near Loreto) back in the days when there was only an Eco
resort there. The area is known on maps as Ensenada El Estuche. There is no road access although the main highway is about a mile up the hill from
the beach. Has anyone heard rumors of a road coming that way or should we just plan on our kids using it someday and look for land currently
accessible by road?
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DENNIS
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Welcome to BajaNomad, Danzante. Sundays can be a bit slow around here, but hang on. Somebody will be along with some answers.
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David K
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The mission trail between Ligüí or Ensenada Blanca and Dolores is the only land route then?
The trail story begin on page 6 of this 1974 Desert Magazine: http://mydesertmagazine.com/files/197410-DesertMagazine-1974...
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I don't know anything about that road but the way things work down here I would think your grandkids or great grandkids rather than your kids. 
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we grow old because we stop playing
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DENNIS
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Quote: Originally posted by danzanti  |
So we bought an acre of beachfront about a ten minute skiff ride south from Villa Del Palmar (near Loreto) back in the days when there was only an Eco
resort there. |
Question is.....how did you make the purchase? Fideicomiso.....purchase by a national....corporation purchase.....from an ejido? This will have
everything to do with your dreams.
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[Edited on 12-14-2014 by DENNIS]
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Tioloco
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Dennis,
How does that have anything to do with their question?
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DENNIS
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Nothing, directly. It does however have everything to do with their control of the property, an acre of beachfront....[an extraordinary amount]
which is instrumental in their future plans for said property.
Danzanti brought the issue, with the purchase detail here, so my curiosity had me ask. There are so many that come here with property questions that
just don't know exactly what they bought into. Hopefully, this isn't one of those, but if it is, and danzanti were me, I would appreciate the
heads-up.
The question stands.
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[Edited on 12-14-2014 by DENNIS]
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David K
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Me too Dennis. Thanks for asking. My guess is they are Mexicans?
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DENNIS
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I hope so. Thanks D.
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ligui
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Just south of me ...in ensenada blanca/ ligui . Had a friend show me a lot he bought in that area 10 to 15yrs ago . Said that they were told a road
would come down off the hwy from behind Villa Del Palmer . Havn't heard any local talk about it going in anytime soon . The land was being sold by
some ejido members in ligui at the time .
They offered me a good price also , but i couldn't see the road coming in for a long time because it had to come down from the mountains . Also
looked like it could take sometime to get the papers in a corp.
Very nice area . 
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DENNIS
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Thanks, ligui. Maybe we're tuning in the picture.
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danzanti, The plat map with your fido should show a road or roads. The ejido should have done all the preliminary survey work and changed the land use
designation so you can get the necessary environmental study and permits before you can do any improvements. This can be a real nightmare and
expensive. I truly wish you good luck.
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Villa Del Palmar, which is hurting for business, only has a dirt road off the main highway themselves.
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Danzanti-
Anything in Mexico is possible if you find out who needs to get taken care of first. Hope you get to build a cool place there. Money makes the world
go around.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Tioloco | Danzanti-
Anything in Mexico is possible if you find out who needs to get taken care of first. Hope you get to build a cool place there. Money makes the world
go around. |
Dealing with ejidos can have an unpredictable outcome. Money won't buy everything.
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Dennis-
I think history has shown you are right about the ejidos, but wrong about the money.
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DENNIS
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Yeah...I suppose you're right. 
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Danzanti , when you bought , what papers did you recieve ? Also who did you buy them from ?
I do remenber seeing a site map and you could pick out out numbered lots .
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DENNIS
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Looks like danzanti doesn't want to play with us any more.
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David K
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I didn't even get to tell him the island is spelled DANZANTE (if it matters at all) 
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