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[*] posted on 2-24-2015 at 12:32 PM
Story behind Sempra's LNG terminal in Baja


Voice of San Diego published an interesting 3-part series. Hard to tell what is real or not,... but fascinating tale none the less.

Here is link to part 1

http://voiceofsandiego.org/topics/government/the-mexican-bus...
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[*] posted on 2-24-2015 at 06:04 PM


Seems to me that if this guy is being targeted, he must have done something worse. Obviously the Sempra terminal just North of Ensenada took a whole lot of beautiful real estate of the market. But I cannot understand why this guy is the target of their wrath. They got what they wanted.
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[*] posted on 2-25-2015 at 08:16 AM


Interesting. Only read part one so far. If I get a $2,000,000 wire transfer into my bank account does anyone monitor that?



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[*] posted on 2-25-2015 at 10:17 AM


They also destroyed a world class surf spot.



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[*] posted on 2-25-2015 at 07:40 PM


cmon man! WORLD CLASS. Not my world. If you travel much you will realize that the"best of baja" is not even close to world class. You need to expand your horizens.
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[*] posted on 2-25-2015 at 08:02 PM


okay, DAMN GOOD surf spot! especially in the sense that hardly anyone knew it existed.....

http://www.surfline.com/surfnews/article.cfm?id=1478




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[*] posted on 2-25-2015 at 08:13 PM


Sempra's hands are dirty also



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[*] posted on 2-25-2015 at 09:11 PM


Quote: Originally posted by willardguy  
Quote: Originally posted by woody with a view  
okay, DAMN GOOD surf spot! especially in the sense that hardly anyone knew it existed.....

http://www.surfline.com/surfnews/article.cfm?id=1478


both greg and rusty long compared it to the box and backdoor, jason murray called it world class.

but then again these guys aren't nomad chargers!:LOL:


I would trust Greg's analysis any day of the week.




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[*] posted on 2-26-2015 at 12:14 PM


Looks like it was a pretty amazing spot...





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[*] posted on 2-26-2015 at 04:16 PM
From helicopter... June, 2014




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The rest taken on the coast, northbound:











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[*] posted on 2-26-2015 at 05:04 PM


I wonder what would happen if an airliner slammed into one of those holding tanks?



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[*] posted on 2-26-2015 at 05:09 PM


No survivors, just like when one hits any other solid object at flight speed.



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[*] posted on 2-26-2015 at 05:10 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Ateo  
I wonder what would happen if an airliner slammed into one of those holding tanks?


I think it would deflect off it and continue on its flight path!

positive thinking man!:lol:
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[*] posted on 2-26-2015 at 05:30 PM


I was thinking more like Ensenada and Rosarito goes bye bye.



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[*] posted on 2-26-2015 at 05:46 PM


This is somewhat similar to the current battle nob about the keystone pipeline. It involves foreign fuel sources that will travel to another country. In the case of the Sempra project, the bulk of what they offload will find its way out of Mexico. In the case of the Keystone project, we are looking at a Canadian project that contains horribly toxic crude. They don't want to run that through there country, but opted to create this pipeline that will send this toxic stuff to the Texas gulf coast, where it will be refined, with great environmental damage to the area, and then ship it out to China and alike. None of this has ever been destined for American consumers, but we are supposed to handle the potential damage of a pipeline breach and deal with the pollutants release in the refining process, just so it can be shipped overseas.

The Canadians are taking us for fools.
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[*] posted on 2-26-2015 at 08:22 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Ateo  
I was thinking more like Ensenada and Rosarito goes bye bye.


Gas storage tanks have exploded in a few places, right... they never flattened a 50 mile radius, did they? It isn't a nuclear bomb... and there is no town there... I doubt if it would even harm BajaMar, over the hill???




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[*] posted on 2-26-2015 at 08:37 PM


Well said David:bounce:
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[*] posted on 2-26-2015 at 09:45 PM


Having worked in the natural gas industry for 34+ years I can tell you there is a circle of death. even if that plant and it's tanks exploded simaltaneously there would only be consequence to the surrounding area of about a mile in each direction. the initially blast would travel outward then upward in all directions. anyone inside the circle obviously would not survive. hopefully they use adequate cathodic protection on all the tanks and piping other wise it's just a ticking time bomb. natural gas is lighter than air unlike propane which would lay on the land and roll out much further then natural gas would.
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[*] posted on 2-27-2015 at 12:10 AM


Quote: Originally posted by bledito  
Having worked in the natural gas industry for 34+ years I can tell you there is a circle of death. even if that plant and it's tanks exploded simaltaneously there would only be consequence to the surrounding area of about a mile in each direction. the initially blast would travel outward then upward in all directions. anyone inside the circle obviously would not survive. hopefully they use adequate cathodic protection on all the tanks and piping other wise it's just a ticking time bomb. natural gas is lighter than air unlike propane which would lay on the land and roll out much further then natural gas would.


Thanks for the facts on that... I wanted to be sure, because Ateo is a gasoline storage expert, and his statement seemed a bit extreme saying Ensenada and Rosarito would be destroyed.




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[*] posted on 2-27-2015 at 10:07 AM


The funny thing is the circus began when Sempra gave up on EPA problems and moved the facility into friendly Mexico, eighty miles south of San Diego.

Corruption involved? Of course. This is the land where money talks and BS walks.

The only gas Mexico will see from this facility is what they receive as handouts which will have to moved by truck or boat. No pipelines or rail lines remotely close.

They do have a nice, new pipe from the facility back to the USA.

The permits are probably paid on a monthly basis with remittances sent to DF.




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