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[*] posted on 3-28-2015 at 09:34 AM


Thanks for the info Paul. I will go to Algodones or San Luis and find out what is required.
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[*] posted on 3-28-2015 at 10:01 AM
From Facebook


The following from the facebook link provided in the first post:

"My sister-in-law just called a contact at The Mexican Tourism. They are not sending people back. They are warning people. Under 7 days you fill out a form ...no cost. Over 7 days you pay."
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[*] posted on 3-28-2015 at 10:46 AM


Seems the issue is with Algodones making up rules to have some pocket money?





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[*] posted on 3-28-2015 at 11:57 AM




Maybe they should start taxing the dentists?




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[*] posted on 3-28-2015 at 12:27 PM


Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  
The following from the facebook link provided in the first post:

"My sister-in-law just called a contact at The Mexican Tourism. They are not sending people back. They are warning people. Under 7 days you fill out a form ...no cost. Over 7 days you pay."


So if money is being collected, does the payee receive a valid, stamped FMM that will pass further inspections? How about at least a receipt?
If I was able to get the FMM at an inspection point, that would be a lot smoother process than finding parking and visiting an office.
Smells like a shakedown to me.




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[*] posted on 3-28-2015 at 01:02 PM


Es Mexico...



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[*] posted on 3-28-2015 at 01:28 PM


The FMM is written up by the INM guy at the border. This is done in his office. He sends you to the bank where you pay and get bank paper. Most crossings the bank is a short walk. Then you go back to the INM guy and he stamps the FMM - and then you are good to go with your FMM in you possession.

The 7 day just get the FMM stamp by the INM guy - no bank of course. Then the INM guy record the event in his computer.
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Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  
The following from the facebook link provided in the first post:

"My sister-in-law just called a contact at The Mexican Tourism. They are not sending people back. They are warning people. Under 7 days you fill out a form ...no cost. Over 7 days you pay."


So if money is being collected, does the payee receive a valid, stamped FMM that will pass further inspections? How about at least a receipt?
If I was able to get the FMM at an inspection point, that would be a lot smoother process than finding parking and visiting an office.
Smells like a shakedown to me.
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[*] posted on 3-28-2015 at 01:47 PM


crossed a couple of weeks ago at Algadones. Showed him my Immigrado card. He said I should get it updated at the proper immigration office to the new permanent resident card. He also said...do not let them charge you. It is free. No attempt at extortion.
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[*] posted on 3-28-2015 at 01:49 PM
INM south of the border


Thanks Paul, everything you said makes perfect sense to me as to how things should work. What I was referring to was the reports (so far unconfirmed) of people without valid FMMs being stopped further south, and paying the fees on the spot.
If this has happened to anyone reading this post, could you please inform the rest of us how that worked, and what you got for the fee?




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[*] posted on 3-28-2015 at 03:29 PM


The Tourist Card regs have been unclear for decades, never
has been spelled out, specific rules to go by, or not. No clear demarcation line for needing fmm's. Since
there is no enforcement or penalty Tourists will ignore them,
or simply not be aware. Lets face it, some here, until there is
some sort of fine/penalty, just want to save the $25. I think
their regs are generous and appreciate the opportunities
Mex offers. Some here go SOB, sleep on a free beach, buy a fish taco, a 6 pack, contributing nothing to the Mex economy, just taking advantage

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[*] posted on 3-28-2015 at 04:25 PM


Sancho-
If someone drives around, buying gas, beers and tacos.... Isn't that contributing to the mexican economy? I can not see how that is taking advantage of Mexico. Maybe you can explain?
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[*] posted on 3-28-2015 at 05:31 PM


At the end of the day, the absolute greatest impediment for cross border travel is the US border. Given that until a few years ago, there was no passport requirement, and way shorter lines, I just have to wonder if the co-presidents Bush and Cheney knew what they were doing to the average American and the average Mexican.

It continues to blow my mind that there is such a fortified border between Mexico and the US; more so than almost anywhere in the world, given the long history of the two countries.

Those politicians that seek to hold immigration reform hostage until the borders are secure are out of their minds.
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[*] posted on 3-28-2015 at 05:36 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Bajahowodd  
At the end of the day, the absolute greatest impediment for cross border travel is the US border. Given that until a few years ago, there was no passport requirement, and way shorter lines, I just have to wonder if the co-presidents Bush and Cheney knew what they were doing to the average American and the average Mexican.

It continues to blow my mind that there is such a fortified border between Mexico and the US; more so than almost anywhere in the world, given the long history of the two countries.

Those politicians that seek to hold immigration reform hostage until the borders are secure are out of their minds.


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[*] posted on 3-28-2015 at 05:38 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Fernweh  
Quote: Originally posted by Bajahowodd  
At the end of the day, the absolute greatest impediment for cross border travel is the US border. Given that until a few years ago, there was no passport requirement, and way shorter lines, I just have to wonder if the co-presidents Bush and Cheney knew what they were doing to the average American and the average Mexican.

It continues to blow my mind that there is such a fortified border between Mexico and the US; more so than almost anywhere in the world, given the long history of the two countries.

Those politicians that seek to hold immigration reform hostage until the borders are secure are out of their minds.


Your King Obama is not any better!

Humor, bad, good, or gallows, is never understood by true leftists, unless they are paid. They have had that sense surgically removed as the price of admission to the inner circles.



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[*] posted on 3-28-2015 at 06:01 PM



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[*] posted on 3-28-2015 at 07:09 PM


Southbound a week ago and they never asked for papers, sodas or anything
Just a very brief discussion and on the way we went

Methinks this is much ado about not much
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[*] posted on 3-28-2015 at 07:48 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Tioloco  
Sancho
Isn't that contributing to the mexican economy? I can not see how that is taking advantage of Mexico. Maybe you can explain?















There are regular posters, that top off with gas before crossing,
with camping gear, food, go 125 mi SOB, (I've done plenty of
that myself), come back on the same tank, and are able to
return with change from a $10 peso coin, and champion themselves as some sort of contributing tourist. Mex Imm,
if they knew, wouldn't let them in the Country


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[*] posted on 3-28-2015 at 07:59 PM


Wish it was that cheap and easy for me!

Off the top of my head, money that goes to Mexico from my pocket includes:

1) I buy Mexican Auto Insurance (a Mexican company is the end benefactor)
2) If required based on my destination and duration, I buy a tourist card (from the Mexican government).
3) I buy gasoline in Mexico multiple times even on a short trip.
4) I buy Mexican beer, food, gifts and more...
5) When not camping, I stay at Mexican owned establishments (motels, bed & breakfast).
6) I have been known to get a flat tire or two in the past (not deflating for graded roads), so I pay Mexican tire shops to patch the tires.
7) I have hired a local to serve as a guide once, as well.
8) Oh, one more... my $34,000 truck was made in Baja!!!




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[*] posted on 3-28-2015 at 09:05 PM


Sancho-
While I understand your example, it isn't much different from a german tourist hitch hiking across America. Part of being a free society, yes?
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[*] posted on 3-28-2015 at 11:17 PM


Sancho thats the most Bs I have heard today.I live here full time.When any of my freeing come here.Or almost anybody I know here,they spend lots of $ here. Help the economy here
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