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[*] posted on 3-11-2016 at 11:07 AM


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DK will be along soon. I don't get the hate thing either.


I think he means those who hate that we call it an island, but not sure why that bothers anyone?

Local gringos who began building vacation homes along the coast began calling it Shell Beach... often not driving any further north or south than where the road reaches the beach. The place is a serious shell collector paradise. Only if you drive to either end or try to drive on or off at highest tides do you realize this beach is indeed an island. I think my name is a more romantic one, describes it better, is unique (there already is a place in Baja known as Shell Beach, at Punta Chivato), and may predate the other gringo name by several years?




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[*] posted on 3-11-2016 at 02:03 PM


David is a little sensitive about Laguna Percebu. He claims to have discovered it, although it was a camping area for many well before he ever went there. As can be seen it the maps, it is a lagoon that was dramatically impacted by the hurricane Katerina in 1967.
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[*] posted on 3-11-2016 at 02:09 PM


Clearly some of us have our favourite Baja places....San Francisquito is certainly one of mine....and I don't care about the details (menu range/availability, gas availability, ambience of local caretakers/owners, etc).

It is not my only favoured spot, but it has a magic from my first visits that takes any tarnish off ongoing visits....

DK loves his beach....I love mine....

What's your fave beach spot?




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[*] posted on 3-11-2016 at 02:28 PM


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David is a little sensitive about Laguna Percebu. He claims to have discovered it, although it was a camping area for many well before he ever went there. As can be seen it the maps, it is a lagoon that was dramatically impacted by the hurricane Katerina in 1967.


Not a bit sensitive. We also camped at Percebú (well before) when it was a commercial fishing camp before 'Laguna' was added to the name and it became a tourist camp. That was on a return trip from Gonzaga Bay in 1965. We were seeking Agua de Chale and got on the old southern Percebú road by mistake.

"Shell Island" is not the lagoon... It is the barrier that creates that lagoon and the "back bay" behind Bahía Santa María (which had no official name before 1969 when Aniceto Madueña named that lagoon/ bay after his daughter upon homesteading the area).

Yes, before 1967 it was easy to drive the beach to Percebú from Agua de Chale. After the hurricane, the back bay enlarged, the shrimp boat was washed in there during the hurricane and the south end of the island was cut off from the Santa María bay area.




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[*] posted on 3-11-2016 at 02:54 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Quote: Originally posted by woody with a view  
DK will be along soon. I don't get the hate thing either.


I think he means those who hate that we call it an island, but not sure why that bothers anyone?

Local gringos who began building vacation homes along the coast began calling it Shell Beach... often not driving any further north or south than where the road reaches the beach. The place is a serious shell collector paradise. Only if you drive to either end or try to drive on or off at highest tides do you realize this beach is indeed an island. I think my name is a more romantic one, describes it better, is unique (there already is a place in Baja known as Shell Beach, at Punta Chivato), and may predate the other gringo name by several years?


Given your use of vacation snapshots from there to support your conclusion that sea level has not changed, "fantasy island" is an appropriate geographic name.
A geographic name name is not official until DF decrees it so, what say INEGI?
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[*] posted on 3-11-2016 at 03:03 PM


You can call it anyhing you want. You ever been there?
(So, there is the second hater... if you weren't sure... lol)




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[*] posted on 3-11-2016 at 03:20 PM


What kind of shells to you find there besides clam shells?



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[*] posted on 3-11-2016 at 03:32 PM


Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Quote: Originally posted by woody with a view  
DK will be along soon. I don't get the hate thing either.


I think he means those who hate that we call it an island, but not sure why that bothers anyone?

Local gringos who began building vacation homes along the coast began calling it Shell Beach... often not driving any further north or south than where the road reaches the beach. The place is a serious shell collector paradise. Only if you drive to either end or try to drive on or off at highest tides do you realize this beach is indeed an island. I think my name is a more romantic one, describes it better, is unique (there already is a place in Baja known as Shell Beach, at Punta Chivato), and may predate the other gringo name by several years?


Given your use of vacation snapshots from there to support your conclusion that sea level has not changed, "fantasy island" is an appropriate geographic name.
A geographic name name is not official until DF decrees it so, what say INEGI?


:lol: I could give a ratzass either way, different strokes......but I like "dirt island"
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[*] posted on 3-11-2016 at 04:43 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Quote: Originally posted by rts551  
David is a little sensitive about Laguna Percebu. He claims to have discovered it, although it was a camping area for many well before he ever went there. As can be seen it the maps, it is a lagoon that was dramatically impacted by the hurricane Katerina in 1967.


Not a bit sensitive. We also camped at Percebú (well before) when it was a commercial fishing camp before 'Laguna' was added to the name and it became a tourist camp. That was on a return trip from Gonzaga Bay in 1965. We were seeking Agua de Chale and got on the old southern Percebú road by mistake.

"Shell Island" is not the lagoon... It is the barrier that creates that lagoon and the "back bay" behind Bahía Santa María (which had no official name before 1969 when Aniceto Madueña named that lagoon/ bay after his daughter upon homesteading the area).

Yes, before 1967 it was easy to drive the beach to Percebú from Agua de Chale. After the hurricane, the back bay enlarged, the shrimp boat was washed in there during the hurricane and the south end of the island was cut off from the Santa María bay area.


Well aware of the area David. Family first camped there on the hill at a camp run by "Joe" in 1958 as a few other campers did. We were not lost.

Like I said. Sensitive... but that is OK. It is your favorite beach.
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[*] posted on 3-11-2016 at 04:50 PM


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What kind of shells to you find there besides clam shells?

Murex, olive, moon snail, etc.




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[*] posted on 3-11-2016 at 04:53 PM


"Not a bit sensitive. We also camped at Percebú (well before) when it was a commercial fishing camp before 'Laguna' was added to the name and it became a tourist camp. That was on a return trip from Gonzaga Bay in 1965. We were seeking Agua de Chale and got on the old southern Percebú road by mistake."

very cool david that your father let you share the the driving and navigating task.....at 8 years old!
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[*] posted on 3-11-2016 at 05:08 PM


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Quote: Originally posted by Bob53  
What kind of shells to you find there besides clam shells?

Murex, olive, moon snail, etc.

No pictures?




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[*] posted on 3-11-2016 at 06:06 PM


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Quote: Originally posted by Bob53  
What kind of shells to you find there besides clam shells?

Murex, olive, moon snail, etc.


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[*] posted on 3-11-2016 at 06:41 PM


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What kind of shells to you find there besides clam shells?

Murex, olive, moon snail, etc.

No pictures?


I was at Timeout Café in Vista having lunch on my way to an irrigation job when I saw your question. I am not skilled to attach photos from my website to Nomad using a smartphone.

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That it is an island is clear in this north facing photo... that is Percebú in the distance over on the Baja peninsula, across from the north end of the island.


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Percebú in the background as seen from the island.






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[*] posted on 3-11-2016 at 06:59 PM


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[*] posted on 3-11-2016 at 11:36 PM


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got shells? :light:




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[*] posted on 3-12-2016 at 08:42 AM


DK I am surprised no has jumped you about collecting shells. After all it is illegal...:O:lol::lol::lol: The peanut gallery is off their game.:biggrin:
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[*] posted on 3-12-2016 at 09:44 AM


If they are removed from the beach, yes. We collect to photograph them and it is fun exercise... and to see what is different each time we go. The law I break is going more than 80 kph on the long, straight sections of highway in Baja... my bad!



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[*] posted on 3-12-2016 at 10:34 AM


The fan coral is cool. I have one volleyball sized.



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