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Alan
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Crackdown on SD plates?
Just heard from a friend in La Paz that Mexico is going to start cracking down on South Dakota plates and require that your DL must match the plate.
Not sure why Mexico is interested in enforcing US laws. Just wondering if anyone else has any more info on this.
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AKgringo
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I doubt that Mexico or the Policia Federale are concerned about the plates matching the drivers liscence. Given the experiences I have had in La Paz,
it sounds like local police trying to add a new twist on extortion.
If anybody knows differently, please speak up! I have residences in AK (my official residence) and in CA. I have vehicles with AK plates in CA, and
drive one with CA plates to Mexico. So far it has not been a problem in either the US or Mexico.
Edit; My DL is AK, and all vehicles are registered to me with an address in the state of the plates on it.
[Edited on 6-28-2015 by AKgringo]
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chuckie
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I have been stopped in Kalifornia and Colorado no problem....The address on my SD registration matches my Colorado DL....The speeding tickets were a
different issue....
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bajaguy
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Crackdown
Maybe they should be cracking down on all of the cars without plates or expired US plates
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chuckie
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I should have mentioned I also was stopped in Tecate...But he was only interested in the Mordida....which he didn't get
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Osprey
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One year the outgoing governor in La Paz took all the Sur Mexican license plate money when he left. They usually buy the plates from China. What a
mess for 2 years >> paper plates after a few months. If you had metal plates, they would pull you over. So it was a strange time when you get
nailed for having metal plates. I think the money was about 300K dollars.
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rts551
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I lot about what has been and nothing about a crack down. That being said I have heard rumors, only rumors, that there will be crackdown on
Mexican citizens (and possibly perm residents) with Mexican DL driving US plated cars. Already under way in Tijuana.
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DENNIS
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Law enforcement today will be but a memory tomorrow....perhaps one of the benefits of the mordida system. If fine pesos reached the government, they
would see the advantage of law enforcement and call for more.
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Warf
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License plates in La paz
Twice last week we saw La Paz Municipal Police removing license plates from cars. One was from a parked car in a parking lot, the other was pulled
over by police on a city street. I think that they are on a campaign to get all vehicles properly licensed...it's probably all about city revenues?
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chuckie
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What if it were actually about law enforcement!!!!????
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Alan
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Found this
http://www.theyucatantimes.com/2015/06/driving-legally-in-me...
Perhaps this is what was happening and he assumed it was only related to SD plates
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Alm
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I wonder how much of this is correct, or relates to Baja. For example:
1) "Remember that proof of liability insurance continues to be required to drive on Mexican Federal Highways."
Must be one of those things that are "demanded" by police rather than "required under the law".
2) "Two civil associations provide a “plate”, sticker and ID documents in return to a certain payment, said plate and sticker are not recognized as
legal by Federal highway patrol or municipal police"
AFAIK, plates by ONAPAFFA (and the other organization) are not "loved" by police, but recognized. Wouldn't make sense issuing it, otherwise.
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Udo
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Plus the vehicles that have NO plates on them.
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bledito
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plus all the quads with no plates used like cars to get around town
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rts551
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periodically there is a crackdown. http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2014/aug/04/stringers-tij...
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Alm
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Sandiegoreader is to be taken with a good grain of salt. Too much of half-baked journalism. Truth and relevant facts are entwined with misleading and
irrelevant info.
Like this:
Article 3.4.7 of Mexican border law states that “as long as vehicles are owned by residents from a foreign country, they can be driven around in
national territory limited to 20 kilometers from the border and the border region, as long as they have all the proper documentation.”
Meaning - no driving US/CAN plated car South of Rosarito/Maneadero. No soup for you! 
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Lee
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Quote: Originally posted by Alm  | Sandiegoreader is to be taken with a good grain of salt. Too much of half-baked journalism. Truth and relevant facts are entwined with misleading and
irrelevant info.
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Yeah a grain of salt with some tequila. Isn't the article from the Yucatan? Isn't TJ TJ? It's all a ruse to make it look like cops are
working. In reality, cops are bored and looking for something to do. When cops in la paz need money, they start targeting tourists. Same in
CC. Nothing new happening and this stuff keeps coming around.
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MitchMan
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With regard to US citizens that are not residents of South Dakota that also have Residente Permanente status in the Baja Peninsula and are driving
their South Dakota registered vehicle in, say, La Paz and have no Mexican drivers license, well, there is a strong argument that Mexico could
certainly consider such practice as not actually allowed pursuant to current Mexican law.
The problem was created when Mexican immigration started changing residency statuses from the FM3 to the RP. The reason that it created a problem is
because the Mexican immigration agency did those residency changes without first coordinating with the Aduana. The current legal references in the
law regarding Aduana regulations are still using old immigration status terminology (i.e., FM2 and FM3 and not the current Residente Permanente).
Since the definitions of FM2 and FM3 are not the exact same as "Residente Permanente", there is now ambiguity, not clear cut do's and don'ts.
In my research on this matter when the issue first surfaced (i.e., when FM2 and FM3 were abandoned and Residente Temporal and Residente Permanente
became the law of the land), it is my conclusion that the Mexican government can indeed require RPs to nationalize their SD plated US registered
vehicle while driving it in Baja. That is another way of saying that I believe that the Mexican government can now (and has always had the ability
to) stop you and prohibit you from driving your SD registered vehicle if you are an RP.
Now, that's theory, and here is "on the ground" tangible practical and relevant reality. Certainly, up to now, there has been virtually no such
practice of enforcement in the Baja. We have heard of such enforcement in Mainland Mexico. We have also heard of a few "close calls" reported having
occurred in Baja, but not ever corroborated. There have been no verifiable reports of any such enforcement...in the Baja. I haven't read anything in
this forum by any RP of first hand experience of being held accountable for driving a SD licensed vehicle in the Baja by local or federal police.
Certainly there has been no credible visibility of any such enforcement.
It is sort of like hearing there is an epidemic of a disease that has no symptoms and no reported cases.
I believe that the reason for such lack of enforcement is due to the fact that the entire Baja is "free zone" territory. An entirely different
situation from what exists in Mainland Mexico. I believe that government in Baja sees such enforcement as probably an administrative nightmare, not
to mention trying to anticipate political and economic negative repercussions.
But, and this is a big but, I will keep my ear to the ground on this one. Anything can change at any time in Baja. I believe that the Mexican
government has had the legal ability all along to enforce the prohibition of a US Citizen, who is also an RP, from driving his SD plated US vehicle in
the Baja. They just haven't decided to enforce the prohibition...yet.
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Alm
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| Quote: Originally posted by MitchMan | | I believe that the Mexican government can now (and has always had the ability to) stop you and prohibit you from driving your SD registered vehicle if
you are an RP. |
This has been my understanding too. This pertains to any foreign plates, not only SD. RP has to import his car, period. Those driving with SD plates
without SD driver's license are just breaking more than one law. Enforcement seems to be sporadic - they do it when they feel like.
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