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EnsenadaDr
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Get your stress tests now, your heart will thank you for it
A close family member, always the athletic one and who never had any chronic illnesses, had "upper reflux" chest pain. She was under the care of a
primary physician, and a GI doctor and had her esophagus dilated several times in the past few years for swallowing problems accompanied by chest
pain. This past time however, the dilation did not work. She ended up going to the ER a few weeks back, and they took an EKG. However the system
wasn't working, but she received a call from the hospital the next day to come in, her cardiac enzymes were elevated and there were changes in her
EKG. She had suffered a heart attack in the apex of the heart. A stent was placed in the LAD, which is the main artery to the heart. If this had
been blocked she would have certainly died. This is the artery that is known as the widow maker.
Do you have any chest pain or pressure what seems to be reflux occurring on a regular basis? The Cardiologist that died with Tums in his hands didn't
even know he was having a heart attack. Please urge your doctor to schedule you for a stress test. This will let you know if there is any
significant blockage or spasms that can cause a heart attack.
[Edited on 7-15-2015 by EnsenadaDr]
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PaulW
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Been there - done that. All cleared - now the fitness struggle begins.
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My experience as posted at the time: I had some chest "tightness" while exercising. Went to my primary doctor who did an ekg in his office and then
referred me to a cardiologist who had me on the treadmill and did an echocardiogram. That was on a Thursday and I was kept in the hospital over the
weekend and had a quad bypass on Monday. That was July 22 two years ago. Fortunately I sought medical help before having a heart attack and as a
result am enjoying good health and an active life. I'm 71 and my cardiologist tells me I am in good cardiac health. My advice is to seek medical
advice if you feel anything unusual, my symptoms were mild but I would likely be dead if not for timely treatment.
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Glad you are fixed up, Kurt and Paul!
I also had some sudden weakness episodes last year. They did a stress echo and at CT scan... arteries and heart valves all clear... Then, after
wearing a heart monitor for a week, they could easily see I had an arrhythmia (rapid heart beat causing reduced blood flow) and the reason for my
three episodes. There is a solution now, and without taking any drugs! The following is what was done last year, all in one afternoon (from Sharp
Hospital web page):
1) Anatomical Mapping
Sharp uses advanced technology, including the Carto XP Electro Anatomical Mapping System, to produce 3-D images that show the electrical signals
passing through the heart. Anatomical mapping is a type of electrophysiology study. Your physician uses these images to identify the source of the
arrhythmia.
2) Ablation
In some cases, once the physician has found the source of the abnormal heart rhythm, he or she ablates (destroys) its pathway through the heart by
inserting a catheter (a small narrow tube) through the blood vessels to the area where the abnormal rhythm starts. An electrical current is applied
through the catheter to cure the arrhythmia.
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I haven't had one episode since!
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rts551
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Your doctor will tell you...Eat right and get exercise. You can get all the tests you want (and should) but without the above, doctors can only
keep fixing things...until there is nothing left to fix anymore.
69% of adults are overweight (FAT).
http://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-statistic...
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Quote: Originally posted by rts551  | | Your doctor will tell you...Eat right and get exercise. You can get all the tests you want (and should) but without the above, doctors can only
keep fixing things...until there is nothing left to fix anymore. |
You can eat right, get plenty of exercise, pass all of the medical tests and still fall over from heart problems
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rts551
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| Quote: Originally posted by bajaguy | | Quote: Originally posted by rts551 | | Your doctor will tell you...Eat right and get exercise. You can get all the tests you want (and should) but without the above, doctors can only
keep fixing things...until there is nothing left to fix anymore. |
You can eat right, get plenty of exercise, pass all of the medical tests and still fall over from heart problems |
Maybe that's why the 69% don't care?
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David K
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| Quote: Originally posted by bajaguy | | Quote: Originally posted by rts551 | | Your doctor will tell you...Eat right and get exercise. You can get all the tests you want (and should) but without the above, doctors can only
keep fixing things...until there is nothing left to fix anymore. |
You can eat right, get plenty of exercise, pass all of the medical tests and still fall over from heart problems |
Correct. From WebMD:
Congenital heart disease is a category of heart disease that includes abnormalities in cardiovascular structures that occur before birth.
These defects occur while the fetus is developing in the uterus and may affect approximately 1 in 100 children.
Congenital heart defects may produce symptoms at birth, during childhood, or not until adulthood. Other congenital defects may cause no symptoms.
About 500,000 adults in the U.S. have congenital heart disease.
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bajaguy
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| Quote: Originally posted by rts551 | | Quote: Originally posted by bajaguy | | Quote: Originally posted by rts551 | | Your doctor will tell you...Eat right and get exercise. You can get all the tests you want (and should) but without the above, doctors can only
keep fixing things...until there is nothing left to fix anymore. |
You can eat right, get plenty of exercise, pass all of the medical tests and still fall over from heart problems |
Maybe that's why the 69% don't care?
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Can happen to those not in the 69% also
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Lee
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| Quote: Originally posted by EnsenadaDr | A close family member, always the athletic one and who never had any chronic illnesses, had "upper reflux" chest pain. She was under the care
of a primary physician, and a GI doctor and had her esophagus dilated several times in the past few years for swallowing problems accompanied by chest
pain. This past time however, the dilation did not work. She ended up going to the ER a few weeks back, and they took an EKG. However the
system wasn't working, but she received a call from the hospital the next day to come in, her cardiac enzymes were elevated and there were changes in
her EKG. She had suffered a heart attack in the apex of the heart. A stent was placed in the LAD, which is the main artery to the heart. If this
had been blocked she would have certainly died. This is the artery that is known as the widow maker.
Do you have any chest pain or pressure what seems to be reflux occurring on a regular basis? The Cardiologist that died with Tums in his hands didn't
even know he was having a heart attack. Please urge your doctor to schedule you for a stress test. This will let you know if there is any
significant blockage or spasms that can cause a heart attack.
[Edited on 7-15-2015 by EnsenadaDr] |
Patient was tested for years with the same symptoms and the doctors couldn't figure it out? This patient had the WRONG primary physician and GI
doctor.
Yeah reflux and chest pain needs to be taken seriously. Obviously that wasn't done by these doctors.
Heal yourself.
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F*ck it.
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rts551
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220 million obese. .5 million congenital heart disease. Only on Baja Nominds would we argue this way.
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KurtG
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| Quote: Originally posted by rts551 | | 220 million obese. .5 million congenital heart disease. Only on Baja Nominds would we argue this way. |
You are correct, while there are those with heart problems despite good overall condition and diet the majority of us (I include myself) suffer these
health problems because of poor diet and exercise habits. Ironically in my case the symptoms showed up after I had started to loose quite a bit of
weight and had increased my exercise routine. And before you point it out, I will agree that if I had taken better care 20-30 years earlier I well
might not have had coronary artery clogging. The only point I am making here is that no matter what your overall level of health and conditioning you
should take any symptoms seriously. You might just save your own life.
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You always hear about "little old men" and "little old ladies".
You never hear much about or see many big old men or ladies.
Also, from the Cleveland Clinic:
"Here’s the big news, folks: Coronary artery disease (CAD), the most common type of heart disease, is reversible. Not just treatable. Not just
manageable. Reversible. But to understand what you can do to reverse your disease, you need to know why it occurred in the first place."
http://www.clevelandclinicwellness.com/conditions/CoronaryAr...
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rts551
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| Quote: Originally posted by KurtG | | Quote: Originally posted by rts551 | | 220 million obese. .5 million congenital heart disease. Only on Baja Nominds would we argue this way. |
You are correct, while there are those with heart problems despite good overall condition and diet the majority of us (I include myself) suffer these
health problems because of poor diet and exercise habits. Ironically in my case the symptoms showed up after I had started to loose quite a bit of
weight and had increased my exercise routine. And before you point it out, I will agree that if I had taken better care 20-30 years earlier I well
might not have had coronary artery clogging. The only point I am making here is that no matter what your overall level of health and conditioning you
should take any symptoms seriously. You might just save your own life. |
Well said!
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If you are looking for help with medical conditions, look first at your doctor.
If your doctor is overweight, obese, you are going to the wrong doctor.
The obese 69% already know the above. They're probably old and have given up. Yeah eat right stay fit die anyway.
Easy to fit in and be obese in Mexico as that's how much of the local population ends up.
Whatever.
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The evidence that coronary artery disease is reversible is relatively new. The amount of plaque in your arteries can be reduced with diet and
medications. It beats going under the knife.
This was first discovered by a doctor at the Cleveland Clinic who worked with patients the cardiologists had written off because they couldn't
withstand bypass surgery. The doctor was able to reduce the blockages and keep the patients alive with statins and diet.
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| Quote: Originally posted by SFandH | The evidence that coronary artery disease is reversible is relatively new. The amount of plaque in your arteries can be reduced with diet and
medications. It beats going under the knife.
[Edited on 7-15-2015 by SFandH] |
Yes it's new and I'm sure some cardiologists don't want to hear it. My 2nd and 3rd cardiologists said I needed to see the cardiophysiologist about
ablation and I said yeah well someday I might but it wasn't going to be now.
Along with new studies today I'm hearing Motrim, Aleve, ibuprofen and who knows what other meds increase the risk of heart attack. Wish my othro
surgeon communicated with my cardio guy. OS told me to take 2 Aleve in the a.m., 2 at night, indefinitely for hip arthritis. I lasted a few
days and said BASTA!
Last month stopped heart meds and statins in lieu of squeaky clean diet and cardio workouts. B/P is normal and I've dropped 5 pounds. It's
working. Sure miss the alcohol.
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bwhahaha there's nothing new about reversing heart disease knowledge. When was it .... 5th century? ... when a dude suggested "Let thy food be thy
medicine" Hippocrates (sp) ??
"b..b..b..bbut we're omnivores! we're s'pose to stick dead rotting flesh inside our living bodies (forget the inevitable smelliness!) ... even though
our physiology through 100's of 1000's of years of evolution, would indicate otherwise! Mommy told me so!!"
It doesn't matter that aetherosclorosis (sp), the NUMBER 1 killer in the West, is an affliction EXCLUSIVE to herbivores ! 
https://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2007nl/may/meat.htm
https://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2013nl/jul/one.htm
wake up.  and don't listen to non-healthy doctors for christs' sake!
The fat you eat, is the fat you wear.
There's no profit in a healthy population.
"bb..b.b..b..bb ...but the volcanos!! what about the volcanos!!??" 
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rts551
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I know where I would bet my life on...
Don't listen to novices who know better than everyone else, including the doctors.
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| Quote: Originally posted by rts551 | I know where I would bet my life on...
Don't listen to novices who know better than everyone else, including the doctors. |
That's the ticket! Go with the 'tried & true'  ... 'cause just take a look
around the greatest lab ever produced (called planet earth) and you can see how well the meat-laiden societies are doin' !!
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