durrelllrobert
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Difference between the haves and the have nots increase
Slow growth has been a problem around Latin America. The region averaged just 1.3 percent GDP growth last year, and that is projected to be even lower
this year.
Also troubling is the increase in poverty and inequality in Mexico. A recent biannual report from the government agency, Coneval, found that the
country’s poverty rate — set at $158 per month — reached 46.2 percent of the population last year, an increase from 45.5 percent in 2012. Esquivel
noted that poverty rates, including extreme poverty, are similar to the early 1990s, before the North American Free Trade Agreement.
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I can't seem to open up the article, but the news really is troubling.
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We are not doing much better, my friend. I've seen forecasts for 2016 calling for 0.2-0.5% GDP drop from current 2.5% (or whatever number they've come
up so far).
On the "bright side", 7% growth in China and India - it has to come from somewhere.
[Edited on 8-8-2015 by Alm]
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Relative Poverty
$158.00 Mexico.
$981.00 U.S.
A LOT better to be a poor Gringo.
ESPECIALLY when considering that the additional benefits available to those below, at or within 400 percent of that poverty level can be significant.
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Quote: Originally posted by MrBillM  | $158.00 Mexico.
$981.00 U.S.
A LOT better to be a poor Gringo.
ESPECIALLY when considering that the additional benefits available to those below, at or within 400 percent of that poverty level can be significant.
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OTOH, when was the last time you saw someone living out of a tent and shopping cart in Baja? Or their car? We have lots of both here in San Diego.
\"Probably the airplanes will bring week-enders from Los Angeles before long, and the beautiful poor bedraggled old town will bloom with a
Floridian ugliness.\" (John Steinbeck, 1940, discussing the future of La Paz, BCS, Mexico)
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| Quote: Originally posted by Whale-ista |
OTOH, when was the last time you saw someone living out of a tent and shopping cart in Baja? Or their car? We have lots of both here in San Diego.
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I think all large cities worldwide have homeless people. Plus cities in warm climates are the best cities to be homeless. If I was down to my last
$1000 and knew there was no more coming in, I'd buy an airplane ticket to Honolulu, wander down to Waikiki, and take it from there.
Baja? Tijuana has plenty of homeless. Don't know about Mexicali, Ensenada, La Paz, or Los Cabos.
I have read that on a worldwide basis, extreme poverty is decreasing. Certainly millions in China and India have escaped extreme poverty in the past
25-50 years. And, Africa, the poorest continent is improving.
The problem is the middle class disappearing, and not into the upper classes.
[Edited on 10-13-2015 by SFandH]
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| Quote: Originally posted by MrBillM | $158.00 Mexico.
$981.00 U.S.
A LOT better to be a poor Gringo.
ESPECIALLY when considering that the additional benefits available to those below, at or within 400 percent of that poverty level can be significant.
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Mexican Property tax = $32 USD
California Property tax=$2147 USD
I hear the whales song
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| Quote: Originally posted by SFandH | | Quote: Originally posted by Whale-ista |
.... If I was down to my last $1000 and knew there was no more coming in, I'd buy an airplane ticket to Honolulu, wander down to Waikiki, and take it
from there.... |
Just on the west side of the island heading to north shore you will find many "homeless" camped along the beaches.....not an element of first
choice.....Oaxacan coast looks preferable.....or maybe Michoacan coast.... 
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Don't believe everything you think....
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| Quote: Originally posted by motoged | | Quote: Originally posted by SFandH |
.... If I was down to my last $1000 and knew there was no more coming in, I'd buy an airplane ticket to Honolulu, wander down to Waikiki, and take it
from there.... |
Just on the west side of the island heading to north shore you will find many "homeless" camped along the beaches.....not an element of first
choice.....Oaxacan coast looks preferable.....or maybe Michoacan coast....
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Michoacan. I drove that coast road. Ticla, Rio Nexpa. Rugged and beautiful. It attracts a particular type of traveler. Good vibes. Watch out for the
narcos tho.
[Edited on 10-13-2015 by SFandH]
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The GOOD News is................
The Homeless get a break on those Property Taxes !
Speaking of the Big-Cities Tent-Trash Troops, they are (for the most part) Chemically-Addicted and/or Mentally-Disturbed
Dregs who (thanks to Liberals) Benefit(?) from our inability to confine and treat them.
Thankfully, they DO mostly congregate in the larger cities where those of us who don't can regard them as "oddities" viewed only on TV or in the
newspapers.
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The question is are they homeless because they want to be or because they have to be.
I have known a few homeless in San Diego and they want to be that way. A few I've talked to here in Bakersfield also want to be and those that don't
go to the homeless shelter for help. Here there are many places they go for a free meal.
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I spent a week along the coastline riding moto two years ago....Nexpa was home for that time and a great sleepy community (surfers and
fishing)....Just south of Tecoman there were more "tourist" accommodation options along the coast I would explore next time .
I also rode Hwy 134 and 51 from Zihuatanejo to Taxco despite my hotelier's advice (unsafe)....but the guys at the Pemex and a Federale group parked
in the shade said it would be safe......made the trip with no narco issues, despite the area being rife with such problems.....
mucho suerte.....
| Quote: Originally posted by SFandH | | Quote: Originally posted by motoged | | Quote: Originally posted by SFandH |
.... If I was down to my last $1000 and knew there was no more coming in, I'd buy an airplane ticket to Honolulu, wander down to Waikiki, and take it
from there.... |
Just on the west side of the island heading to north shore you will find many "homeless" camped along the beaches.....not an element of first
choice.....Oaxacan coast looks preferable.....or maybe Michoacan coast....
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Michoacan. I drove that coast road. Ticla, Rio Nexpa. Rugged and beautiful. It attracts a particular type of traveler. Good vibes. Watch out for the
narcos tho.
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