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exclamation.gif posted on 10-21-2015 at 10:44 PM
Patricia update/links: Here's why the mainland dodged a very large bullet


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Why Hurricane Patricia Didn't Cause Epic Damage (full text in separate post)
http://time.com/4086096/hurricane-patricia-damage-explainer-...

Webcam live link to PV: (these are now back online)
Note the plume of sediment from freshwater runoff into the bay, here: http://www.webcamsdemexico.com/webcam-puerto-vallarta


This hotel looks intact. Hopefully, much less damage than anticipated, as the hurricane trajectory missed the most populated resort areas.
http://www.webcamsdemexico.com/webcam-puerto-vallarta-sur


Thanks to Nomads who are participating, staying on topic, providing helpful perspectives and information, and not diverting into political commentary.


This could be a reminder for those planning winter/spring Baja trips: the potential for heavy rains, damaged roads and related storm delays could make travel logistics more challenging.

News from Friday: The storm is so intense that the air temperature up in the hurricane’s eye, thousands of feet above the surface, was 89°F. 89°F! The storm is so intense that the Hurricane Hunter aircraft recorded sustained winds of 221 MPH at flight level a few thousand feet above the surface of the ocean. Patricia is a storm without precedent. We are living history today, but nobody will live it more than Mexico. While we try to wrap our minds around what the atmosphere did last night, it’s important to remember that there are people in the path of this storm. This is not some abstract homework assignment assigned by some madman meteorology professor. This is a real storm that is quickly approaching land and soon threatens to create unimaginable amounts of devastation in any communities caught directly in the path of Patricia’s eye.

thevane.gawker.com/at-200-mph-hurricane-patricia-is-now-the-strongest-tro-1738224692

Patricia is stirring up 50 FOOT+ waves in the Eastern Pacific. Textbooks will be rewritten with this storm. http://twitter.com/RobertSuhr/status/657487876381396993/phot...

Hurricane #Patricia is a record breaker. Time for a new category?
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/cyclones/?epac


The rate at which Hurricane Patricia strengthened is jaw-dropping even to seasoned weather geeks. The storm exploded from a tropical storm on Tuesday night to the full-scale fury of evaporated paradise in just 24 hours, which, according to the National Hurricane Center, ties 1997’s Hurricane Linda as the most explosive strengthening ever recorded during the satellite era.

http://thevane.gawker.com/mexicos-west-coast-in-grave-danger...

from Mexican national weather website:
SITUACIÓN ACTUAL: El huracán "PATRICIA" se ha intensificado a la máxima categoria 5 en la escala Saffir-Simpson, presenta desplazamiento hacia el nor-noroeste, siendo un huracán extremadamente peligroso que favorecerá lluvias intensas a puntuales torrenciales en los estados del sur y occidente del país.

http://smn.cna.gob.mx/index.php?option=com_content&view=...
Patricia nearing Hurricane status. Heading toward Manzanillo, Mexico as potentially cat 3 storm! https://t.co/LK59COMAjL


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[Edited on 10-24-2015 by Whale-ista]




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[*] posted on 10-22-2015 at 03:14 AM


Here's a great article about our current El Niño, a good read IMO> hits on fish migration disruptions and unusual storm conditions... pretty in-depth in global terms. Patty is making a right-turn, good thing for Baja, bad for the Mainland as all the snowbirds are starting to arrive SOB.


http://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/a-huge-el-nino-i...

[Edited on 10-22-2015 by bajabuddha]




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[*] posted on 10-22-2015 at 04:05 AM


Looks like we`ll be taking a direct hit:?:. Lyrics to a Clash song are coming to mind.
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[*] posted on 10-22-2015 at 04:09 AM


Just read that same article...Good read....



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[*] posted on 10-22-2015 at 04:57 AM


gonna fizzle out bt saturday
no worries




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[*] posted on 10-22-2015 at 05:06 AM


Its not sat. that I`m worried about. Friday when it makes landfall as a possible cat 3 is a different story :o.
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[*] posted on 10-22-2015 at 05:23 AM


Chippy, if you're on the mainland i'd tell my coconut palms to hang on to their nuts...... :(



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[*] posted on 10-22-2015 at 07:12 AM


what a very interesting article. I was hoping they would focus more on the fish that are migrating differently but suffice it to say, we feel the changes already with wahoo plentiful in La Bocana. That is rare and only happens in El Nino years.




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[*] posted on 10-22-2015 at 07:52 AM


Quote: Originally posted by chippy  
Looks like we`ll be taking a direct hit:?:. Lyrics to a Clash song are coming to mind.


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[*] posted on 10-22-2015 at 09:15 AM


Looks like it got bumped up to a cat4:o:(

http://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/eastern-pacific/2015/H...
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[*] posted on 10-22-2015 at 09:22 AM


Quote: Originally posted by woody with a view  
Quote: Originally posted by chippy  
Looks like we`ll be taking a direct hit:?:. Lyrics to a Clash song are coming to mind.


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[*] posted on 10-22-2015 at 09:46 AM


Thanks Buddah- interesting report.

Quote: Originally posted by bajabuddha  
Here's a great article about our current El Niño, a good read IMO> hits on fish migration disruptions and unusual storm conditions... pretty in-depth in global terms. Patty is making a right-turn, good thing for Baja, bad for the Mainland as all the snowbirds are starting to arrive SOB.


http://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/a-huge-el-nino-i...

[Edited on 10-22-2015 by bajabuddha]




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[*] posted on 10-22-2015 at 01:39 PM


Yikes Puerto Vallarta is going to take it on the noggin



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[*] posted on 10-22-2015 at 02:09 PM


When Kenna went by PV in 2002 it was a cat 4 also. Because PV was to the right of Kennas landfall (San Blas) it took a beating because of its big azz bay (bahia banderas) and fetch.

Patricia is looking like it will hit land east of Cabo Corrientes wich will put us here on the Costa Allegre to the right of it:bounce:. and PV in the clear so to speak.
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[*] posted on 10-22-2015 at 04:01 PM


El Nino has taken root, and is already feeding itself with westerly wind anomalies in the Western Equatorial Pacific. These strong westerly winds are called westerly wind bursts and they create downwelling waves of warm water across to the Eastern Pacific.

In strong El Nino years, we see a few of these events through the spring and summer that will charge up the Eastern Pacific waters with warmer temps. Each El Nino is different obviously.

This year actually started early, and started with some long westerly wind bursts which slowly made their way across in the form of Kelvin waves. A strong event happened in June/July and now 3 months later we are seeing the sea surface temps in the 3.4 region slowly make their way up. (Right now about +2.5C anomalies). For the first 2 weeks in October, we saw another strong event, which will charge up the waters again in another 2-3 months. And, right now there is forecast for ANOTHER event to happen. This will most likely keep our El Nino very strong though our winter and really impact the jetstream through spring.

Should be interesting!
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[*] posted on 10-22-2015 at 04:10 PM


Here she comes!

http://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/noaa-extremely-d...




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[*] posted on 10-22-2015 at 05:38 PM


the sun will come up.... TOMORROW!

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[*] posted on 10-22-2015 at 05:46 PM


Hang tough, Chippy. Hope you stay out of harms way! Odile has left us damage from last summer but thankfully we're lloking good. Batten the Hatches, maytie. Tio
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