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[*] posted on 11-11-2015 at 09:49 AM


Quote: Originally posted by bajaguy  
Since you are so interested why don't you fire off a message to SPOT and find out. We all will be awaiting your reply

I myself believe them more than you


Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by bajaguy  
If you look at the map and do an enlargement you will see they have documented "rescues" all over Baja


Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  

Over 3,500 rescues and counting

http://www.findmespot.com/en/spotemergency/

I doubt anybody can provide evidence of spot organizing and leading a rescue in remote Mexico. Somebody please do a test, go to Catavina and press spot 911 and wait for Lassie to show up. Woof, woof!


Dots on a map? Anybody can sprinkle dots on a map. How about a real story about spot leading the rescue in remote Baja? I noticed the dots are not clickable, if they were real you would think spot would allow you to click on a dot to read the story, eh?


You are doing a poor job of selling spot! Spot does a poor job of selling spot. I believe it does work well in USA where it is easy to call the local police, coast guard, etc. but does spot even have a telenumber for the police in catavina? How does spot activate first responders in remote Baja? Won't the cops just wait until some relative shows up to provide gas money to travel to the locations?

Spot may be ok to alert your friends that you need help, and your friends can come rescue you,... Spot should not suggest there are SAR services in remote Baja that will be dispatched after spot 911 call
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[*] posted on 11-11-2015 at 09:56 AM


I don't have to sell SPOT, it sells itself

And it is very apparent from your reply that you don't have a clue how SAR works in the US or anywhere else.

PS: Spot won't call anybody in Catavina, they will call Mexico MRCC


Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by bajaguy  
Since you are so interested why don't you fire off a message to SPOT and find out. We all will be awaiting your reply

I myself believe them more than you


Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by bajaguy  
If you look at the map and do an enlargement you will see they have documented "rescues" all over Baja


Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  

Over 3,500 rescues and counting

http://www.findmespot.com/en/spotemergency/

I doubt anybody can provide evidence of spot organizing and leading a rescue in remote Mexico. Somebody please do a test, go to Catavina and press spot 911 and wait for Lassie to show up. Woof, woof!


Dots on a map? Anybody can sprinkle dots on a map. How about a real story about spot leading the rescue in remote Baja? I noticed the dots are not clickable, if they were real you would think spot would allow you to click on a dot to read the story, eh?


You are doing a poor job of selling spot! Spot does a poor job of selling spot. I believe it does work well in USA where it is easy to call the local police, coast guard, etc. but does spot even have a telenumber for the police in catavina? How does spot activate first responders in remote Baja? Won't the cops just wait until some relative shows up to provide gas money to travel to the locations?

Spot may be ok to alert your friends that you need help, and your friends can come rescue you,... Spot should not suggest there are SAR services in remote Baja that will be dispatched after spot 911 call
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[*] posted on 11-11-2015 at 02:35 PM


I don't know specifically who Spot would notify in Mexico it probably depends on the location, out in the middle of nowhere or near a town. But the SOS message goes to who ever the Spot owner puts on the list. So who ever is on the list will get the message and I'm sure they would be calling to see who does what and when regardless of what Spot does.
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[*] posted on 11-11-2015 at 02:45 PM


Do a Google search for GEOS International Emergency Response Coordination Center and you will get a better ideal of how it works.
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[*] posted on 11-12-2015 at 09:30 AM


Spot does work.Few years ago true story.We where up over 50 miles.In forest dirt road.Pick up truck rolled,Badly injured driver.One rider hit Spot.In one hour,red cross ambulance.With Police escort.
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[*] posted on 12-23-2015 at 12:21 AM


Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider  
Spot does work.Few years ago true story.We where up over 50 miles.In forest dirt road.Pick up truck rolled,Badly injured driver.One rider hit Spot.In one hour,red cross ambulance.With Police escort.

There are no "forest dirt roads" in Baja :)

"up over 50 miles" from what - from a city of 1 million people or from a puebla of 1 thousand?

Oh boy, what a stupid topic all the way... A catchy heading, opened it hoping to find something new (to me), but things like "Will GPS work in your location" should've warned me up front. Jeez... Have been using GPS since before they started installing it in passenger cars and cell phones. All you need for a GPS is a clear view of the sky, nothing else. SPOT 911 button works the same way as PLB on aircraft or ship, it merely reports your location to certain center, and then it goes down the chain of command, will somebody come looking for you and when - depends where you are. Keep your fingers crossed that it will "report", i.e. that the message will go out and won't get lost, as this device, unlike PLB, is using an email protocol and emails do get lost as you all know.

You don't need a SPOT or Global Rescue plan when your appendix ruptures in BA or BOLA. You don't need a rescue when you're sick in your home. Instead, you need to get to a faraway hospital FAST. There are NO subscription plans that will guarantee this.

Merry Christmas kids, Don't worry - be happy...

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[*] posted on 12-23-2015 at 09:05 AM


Quote: Originally posted by StuckSucks  
I have the global "come get me" insurance with my SPOT Tracker. Worse-case, I can hit the 911 button and wait for people to arrive.


does spot have testimonials from folks extracted from remote locations? i have wondered if i would see a helicopter come for me as i lay in the dirt under my motorcycle , after punching the 911 button. its nice to think they would, but i wonder how it really comes down,in real world apps.
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[*] posted on 12-23-2015 at 09:12 AM


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does spot have testimonials from folks extracted from remote locations? i have wondered if i would see a helicopter come for me as i lay in the dirt under my motorcycle , after punching the 911 button. its nice to think they would, but i wonder how it really comes down,in real world apps.





http://www.findmespot.com/en/spotemergency/?refer=FrontpageB...
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[*] posted on 12-23-2015 at 09:30 AM


Who Spot or more specifically the GEOS International Emergency Response Coordination Center contacts depends on where you are located. If in the U.S. in a city the local 911 or police. If out of the city usually the county sheriff is contacted. If in Baja again it would depend on where you are located.

First off they don't know what your emergency is until they get to the scene. Then they can determine what help is needed. Spot provides the coordinates of where you are at.

In the U.S. if you call 911 from a home phone (not a cell phone) the 911 operator will know where you are calling from. If you call 911 from a smart phone they sometimes can get the coordinates but not all 911 centers are capable of doing so. It also depends on how the local 911 system is setup. There was a recent situation in Delano CA where a high school boy had a heart attack during gym class and when someone at the school called 911 it was routed to Canada and they called the local police in Delano who then called the fire dept. It was several minutes before help arrived and the boy died.

If you are far away from any services it can takes hours or more for help to arrive whether using a spot, cell phone, smart phone or satellite phone.

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[*] posted on 12-23-2015 at 11:50 AM


Right now my emergency plan is to stay away from the shopping malls, make sure I have enough rum and eggnog, limes, tequila, and cointreau....and park on the couch, play guitar, watch some movies on tv, shovel the drive and walk, and peruse Baja Nomades a few times each day.

Repeat for a week or so, and then rejoin the world and its madness.

Feliz Navidad :saint:




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[*] posted on 6-6-2016 at 09:51 PM


Quote: Originally posted by EnsenadaDr  
I have encouraged time and time again for all legal residents of Mexico to get Seguro Popular. The Mexican health system however will n not turn away a victim of trauma or catastrophic illness. I saw a person last week get stabilized with no ID and no insurance at Rosarito General Hospital but they had run into some snags so all of you legal residents of Mexico get Seguro Popular. Please search the threads here for more information I have written about this several times.
Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider  
While we are talking about this Dr. What is a good Medical Ins to get in Ensanada.For full timer.


Seguro Popular is a good service. I plan on signing up once I land. I know Baja is a world all it's own, but here is a link that may be helpful for those interested in the free medical care offered in Mexico: Mexican Healthcare

Thank you TMW for the info.
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[*] posted on 6-7-2016 at 10:35 AM


As a first step for ANY travel...not just Baja, leave a travel plan (like an aircraft flight plan) with a reliable family member or friend at home. Listing a description of your vehicle, incl lic plate number, travel plans incl departure date, route of travel and expected return date...contact info at your destination and SPOT.

As an EMS provider for over 40 years, its amazing how many rescues are started with..."Bob went 4 wheeling on Sat morning...we havent heard from him (its now Sun afternoon)..." where would you start looking????


The new SPOT's with a smartphone provide 2 way data and there is an optional $100K evac plan...we've carried one since our 1st trip in 07 and have taken it with us on all domestic and Baja travels....
I reached out to the folks at SPOT for some Baja specific info...I'll let ya know what their reply is...

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[*] posted on 6-7-2016 at 11:00 AM
SPOT


I use SPOT tracker with the SAR and Evac

Can designate family/friends to "track" and "Help" functions

Command Center and family/friends on "911" function

Carry an expanded first aid kit
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[*] posted on 6-7-2016 at 12:16 PM


see the feedback on Amazon before you buy a SPOT (there are better options on the market anyway):
"Yes there are a LOT of fees. Look it up on their website. I paid nearly $300 in contract and subscription fees just to get fed up with this grossly unreliable piece of junk and toss it into my saddlebag. If you want an electronic device to save you and bring the cavalry running, you're wasting your money on Spot. I bought it for my Alaska motorcycle trip. What a useless piece of junk. Always shutting off. Always disconnecting. DON'T BOTHER! And I'm an IT professional - I DO have a clue"

A 35% negative rating is BAD!

http://www.amazon.com/Spot-connect-smartphone-satellite-comm...




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[*] posted on 6-7-2016 at 12:45 PM


Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
see the feedback on Amazon before you buy a SPOT (there are better options on the market anyway):
"Yes there are a LOT of fees. Look it up on their website. I paid nearly $300 in contract and subscription fees just to get fed up with this grossly unreliable piece of junk and toss it into my saddlebag. If you want an electronic device to save you and bring the cavalry running, you're wasting your money on Spot. I bought it for my Alaska motorcycle trip. What a useless piece of junk. Always shutting off. Always disconnecting. DON'T BOTHER! And I'm an IT professional - I DO have a clue"

A 35% negative rating is BAD!

http://www.amazon.com/Spot-connect-smartphone-satellite-comm...





Been using my SPOT for about 8 years now and never had a problem.
Never leave home without it.
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