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bajaguy
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Hwy 5 from San Felipe south to the jct with hwy 1 will get pounded to pieces with the truck traffic and I wonder how the people of the Hwy 5 corridor
through San Felipe and the south campos will like all of those trucks
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bajaguy
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David - Just take a close look at the "new" pavement south of Puertecitos. It is starting to check and crack and potholes (although still small) are
starting to form. There are sections of curbing/gutters that have failed/caved in, there are sections of some bridge embankment concrete that has
started to collapse and road cuts are almost vertical causing rockslides (all standard for "better engineered" road construction - Just look and drive
the scenic highway between El Mirador and San Miguel if you need an ezample of "better engineered"). The unregulated weight of commercial trucks and
the cheapout construction methods will turn that "new" section of highway into a mess within 5 years............and again, the added truck traffic
through town and the south campos before the "sulphur mine" road is built will be a big bonus.
Quote: Originally posted by David K  | | Quote: Originally posted by bajaguy | | Hwy 5 from San Felipe south to the jct with hwy 1 will get pounded to pieces with the truck traffic and I wonder how the people of the Hwy 5 corridor
through San Felipe and the south campos will like all of those trucks |
Only south to Puertecitos may get pounded to pieces as that is old road construction. Puertecitos on south to Hwy. 1 is new, wide and
better-engineered highway... the same as the new Hwy. 1 south of Maneadero.
The new highway 5 from the entrance to San Felipe to Puertcitos has already been discussed... it will be inland, nearer the sulfur mine, like the old
road was... It is just a matter of how long will they wait to build it? That is when the dippy road along the South Campos will get really worn out!
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David K
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bajaguy, you live there, so you do know that this is Mexico! There is no better road in Baja than these newest, with bike path size shouldered
highways now being built down there.
To be fair, roads in the USA also wash out during storms. I just heard on the radio that a fire truck fell into a sinkhole in Poway!
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bajaguy
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You are correct. I do live here and I do watch them build roads. I wouldn't have them build me a driveway. Just because it looks good doesn't mean it
is good.....just keep watching the area between San Miguel and El Mirador
| Quote: Originally posted by David K | bajaguy, you live there, so you do know that this is Mexico! There is no better road in Baja than these newest, with bike path size shouldered
highways now being built down there.
To be fair, roads in the USA also wash out during storms. I just heard on the radio that a fire truck fell into a sinkhole in Poway!
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David K
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| Quote: Originally posted by bajaguy | You are correct. I do live here and I do watch them build roads. I wouldn't have them build me a driveway. Just because it looks good doesn't mean it
is good.....just keep watching the area between San Miguel and El Mirador
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Bajahowodd
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | | Quote: Originally posted by durrelllrobert | | Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by David K | I would rather drive a couple extra miles on a 4 lane curvy road than cross any city and deal with traffic, if given a choice. It is a min. of 1/2 an
hour of the trip just to get across Ensenada!
But, that's just me... a country boy! LOL |
The drive thru Ensenada ain't bad. It seems to go pretty quick. I always need to shop when heading south, so is practical to drive thru town.
Aren't nomads all retirees and vacationers? What's your hurry? |
On a GOOD day the drive from Punta Banda to the first toll gate is 30 minutes but on all other days it's an hour. |
Exactly... and because of that, the mountains around Santo Tomás, and the farm town traffic through San Quintin, expect Hwy. 5 to become the more
popular corridor to L.A. Bay and south to Cabo San Lucas once it is completed. The old dip-filled highway between San Felipe and Puertecitos will be
in a big need of an upgrade to match the new style highways north and south of that 50-mile section. |
More popular with whom? For those of us in Coastal California, it makes no sense to spend the extra drive time and miles to get over to Highway 5. Net
loss.
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woody with a view
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check your sources, Ace!
https://twitter.com/sdbrichards/status/686711368125304832/ph...
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rts551
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give David a break....its not often he gets down that far. Yes the new section of 5 is showing some wear on the northern parts.
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David K
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Hey there Ace, did you read me when I said I "heard it on the radio" and they said "a fire truck fell into a sinkhole"... maybe a little exaggerated,
but that's what the do to get you to stay tuned.
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woody with a view
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perhaps you should listen to a different station, one that spouts facts?
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DENNIS
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | There is no better road in Baja than these newest, with bike path size shouldered highways now being built down there.
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Problem is...the wider the bike path, the bigger the truck using it for a passing lane.
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"YOU CAN'T LITTER ALUMINUM"
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rts551
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How True Dennis. SAme on the road to Tecate.
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rts551
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How would one catch Rush if he listened to something fact based?
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rts551
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initially the by-pass road was to help with truck traffic and an anticipated port in Colonet. Now that 5 is most completed is there a pressing need
for this road.
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woody with a view
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there is. more roads can't be a bad thing....
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J.P.
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Break Down Lane
In most States the lane to the right of the solid white line is considered a break down lane and you will get a ticket for driving in it
As a retired Ironworker and having experience working on many free ways in Ca. and other places. the requirements for constructing the Break Down Lane
is considerably less than the main roadbed and will not support sustained usage.
Of course this esssss Mexico and if its wide enough a 18 wheeler may attempt to pass you on it.
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TMW
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| Quote: Originally posted by Bajahowodd | | Quote: Originally posted by David K | | Quote: Originally posted by durrelllrobert | | Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by David K | I would rather drive a couple extra miles on a 4 lane curvy road than cross any city and deal with traffic, if given a choice. It is a min. of 1/2 an
hour of the trip just to get across Ensenada!
But, that's just me... a country boy! LOL |
The drive thru Ensenada ain't bad. It seems to go pretty quick. I always need to shop when heading south, so is practical to drive thru town.
Aren't nomads all retirees and vacationers? What's your hurry? |
On a GOOD day the drive from Punta Banda to the first toll gate is 30 minutes but on all other days it's an hour. |
Exactly... and because of that, the mountains around Santo Tomás, and the farm town traffic through San Quintin, expect Hwy. 5 to become the more
popular corridor to L.A. Bay and south to Cabo San Lucas once it is completed. The old dip-filled highway between San Felipe and Puertecitos will be
in a big need of an upgrade to match the new style highways north and south of that 50-mile section. |
More popular with whom? For those of us in Coastal California, it makes no sense to spend the extra drive time and miles to get over to Highway 5. Net
loss. |
Leaving San Diego I can get to the Hwy 1/Chapala Jct faster using Hwy 5 than using Hwy 1.
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ncampion
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Just drove from southern California to Loreto two days ago using the"back way" through San Felipe. A much more relaxing drive overall. Got through the
dirt section in under an hour. Total mileage and driving time are almost the same as using hwy 1,but way more enjoyable, plus you get to see some
different scenery.
Living Large in Loreto. Off-grid and happy.
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Don Pisto
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fb reporting ensenada bypass 3 to 3 is completed, anyone drove it?
there's only two things in life but I forget what they are........
John Hiatt
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David K
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Link please?
The Baja 1000 in November was using it for the start and finish of the race.
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