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[*] posted on 1-21-2016 at 10:12 AM
San Isidoro (S.P. Martir visita) now accessed by vehicle


Just a news blip for those of you interested in a closer approach to Mission San Pedro Martir...

I just got a satellite phone call from TW, who in a Toyota truck just arrived at the visita ruins of San Isidoro, along the mission trail to San Pedro Martir, from Santo Domingo.

TW (and other Nomads) has been exploring Baja the past few days, sending me Spot signals, and yesterday headed north from Hwy. 1 on the Los Martires road (near El Arenoso) past the Sauzalito copper mines and north in the sierra foothills.

The new road that loops around the foothills passes within 3.1 miles of San Isidoro and a trail (looked like an auto road from space) goes to the visita site. The road actually ends at the creek (Arroyo Campo del Oso on Almanac), across from the site. Walk across the creek and up onto the bench to see the ruins. Tom took photos we will see when they get home.

Graham was at San Isidoro for several days during the 1997 El Niņo rains trying to find the way to Mission San Pedro Martir (Journey with a Baja Burro).

Here is my web page for San Isidoro: http://vivabaja.com/missions3/page10.html

Photos came from Nomad BajaOkie when he was there many years ago.




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[*] posted on 1-21-2016 at 06:12 PM


I was told about the new road from Rancho coyote.Have a map on that David?
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[*] posted on 1-21-2016 at 06:18 PM


You can see it on Google Earth, and in the Almanac, the 'new' graded road in the foothills is shown only as a trail.

Let me see what I can do Larry!




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[*] posted on 1-21-2016 at 06:24 PM


just do it before the next rainy season
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[*] posted on 1-21-2016 at 06:38 PM
Here you go...




San Isidoro at end of blue arrow
Access road at end of red arrow... 3.1 miles from sierra loop road to San Isidoro . The ruins are straight across the creek and up on the bench from the end of the road. New roads drawn in as solid lines.

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[*] posted on 1-21-2016 at 06:42 PM


Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
just do it before the next rainy season
http://baja101.com/Nomad/4x4.Isidoro.kml


Yes Harald, you show the 3.1 mile road perfectly! TW sent me Spot signals from both ends today. He and the gang are back on Hwy. 1, north of San Quintin as of their last Spot, before dark.




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[*] posted on 1-21-2016 at 07:46 PM


That sounds like a fun adventure! I hope TW took some photos.



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[*] posted on 1-21-2016 at 08:23 PM


Yes, he called on his sat phone and told me he's taking photos of the ruins. Did you look at the 2005 photos there?



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[*] posted on 1-23-2016 at 09:15 AM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Yes, he called on his sat phone and told me he's taking photos of the ruins. Did you look at the 2005 photos there?


Yes, I reviewed the photos a couple of times. Thanks!




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[*] posted on 1-23-2016 at 09:20 AM


I got home Friday evening. It was an interesting trip for sure. I'll do a complete trip report in the next few days.

Rancho Santa Barbara is abandoned but there is a new ranch near by called Rancho Crestones where we met the wife. She said her husband had a bulldozer and with the help from Rancho Ilusion, who also has a dozer, they cleared the road in. Rancho San Miguel is also abandoned.

Going in to the mission from the B1K course Roy had cooling problems with his Range Rover. It became a real serious concern for the rest of the trip. It had me worried on how to get him out if it quit.

The road in is a narrow dirt/rock trail that would not require a 4x4 except at the end it is soft course sand near the creek where you have to turn around. It was 3.3 miles distance on my truck from the B1K course to the creek. There was a camp setup probably for either the cowboys or the men cutting cactus logs that we met on our way out.

Here are a few pictures from the mission site. There were two main buildings maybe 12x20 feet, just my guess. Also a smaller building maybe half the size a short distance away.

The two main buildings.






The smaller building, maybe for storage?


This log tag was attached to a tree maybe a 100 feet away.
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[*] posted on 1-23-2016 at 09:35 AM


Thank you TMW.I hope to do this on my dirt bike,soon.Where you able to drive up to Mission.Or hike,or could dirt bike ride up to it?
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[*] posted on 1-23-2016 at 09:46 AM


It would be difficult to ride up. But the mission is only a couple of hundred yards from the creek, if that far. You just can't see it from the creek because of the bushes etc. From the mission I could see my truck.
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[*] posted on 1-23-2016 at 09:49 AM


There is a barbwire fence between the creek and the mission, near the creek. It's kind of loose so it's easy to slip thru even for a fat guy like me.
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[*] posted on 1-23-2016 at 09:54 AM


Thank you Tom, can you email me the fifth photo? Maybe I can put it in the new book?
For clarity, San Isidoro was a mission visita (visiting station) for Mission San Pedro Martir founded in 1794. Junipero Serra passed by this spot on his way to San Diego in 1769.




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[*] posted on 1-31-2016 at 01:44 PM


Tom did you check out Rancho Nuevo York.Heard from friend abandon. I think the hard part for us,is only From V.G side finding the road,that starts to N.Y.As other trips there years ago,went every way. Except where we wanted to go.
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[*] posted on 1-31-2016 at 01:50 PM


Larry, in Tom's trip report I asked about Nueva York and it seems the road they used out to km 187 passed a few miles south of Nueva York.



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[*] posted on 1-31-2016 at 05:20 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Larry, in Tom's trip report I asked about Nueva York and it seems the road they used out to km 187 passed a few miles south of Nueva York.
Ok thanks David,I just wondered,if they checked it out. Today big storm here,We need the water.
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[*] posted on 1-31-2016 at 08:04 PM


No we did not go to Nueva York due to the car problems Roy was having. We got to the junction for the turnoff and almost went that way since there was a lot of fresh tire tracks that way. But I trusted my NUVI gps and turned left.

Below are Google Earth images of the turn off to NY and the site I think is it. The coordinates from GE are pretty close to those in the almanac. From GE 30-44.210x115-46.375


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[*] posted on 2-1-2016 at 09:22 AM


Thank Chuck.The yellow marker,then the round corral.The white object(If that is ranch house) looks like we been there.Then dirt road behind it.Did go back the road back out to V.G.The road it the time,around N.Y. Was Moto only,big wash outs.That our Motos just barley made it past.Many goats in corral there, trucks parked there.That was over ten years ago. I was just wondering,if it maybe better for us.To go up V.G wash to base of mountains,then go.RT(south)we saw well used dirt road.Thinking it would bypass,all the other dirt roads.From Hiway 1.Get to the same place.
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[*] posted on 2-13-2016 at 08:21 PM


Thank you guys we did the ride today 126 mile round trip.Three dirt bikes.It was a long haul,about 6 riding hours.No flats/crashes good day.
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