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Udo
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La Misión beach damage from king tides...
and ultra high waves.
The sand erosion damage is quite extensive. So much so that the waves are now breaking UNDER the bridge and going straight to the lagoon.
Enjoy!
Udo
Youth is wasted on the young!
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woody with a view
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it must be winter!
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gsbotanico
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I was in the Cantamar/El Descanso area on Monday. The wind was still blowing hard for most of the day. Not much rain came with the high winds. It
would have been nice to get more rain and less wind. The rainfall total for the area is still disappointing when all we have heard about is
predictions of the super El Niño. So far the rain hasn't been like 1993 and 1995, when most of the rain fell in January. The local farmers and
ranchers are looking for the water table to be replenished.
There was the "milagro de marzo" in 1991 when the heaviest rain in the area fell in March. I'm keeping my hopes up.
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mtgoat666
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The earth is warming, sea level is rising. Many reports from all over the world about damage from sea level rise.
Only in the usa are people denying the inconvenient truth!
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grizzlyfsh95
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So you say.
The harder I work, the luckier I get
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David K
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The sea level is visibly unchanged if you say it has raised the length of a cigarette in a place it raises and drops by several feet every day. Salt
flats behind lagoons all around Baja are still salt flats and not larger lagoons after the normal winter storm surge recharges the flats with fresh
sea salt!
That clump of palm trees at El Coyote, Bahía Concepción, on the beach, are still just inches above high tide... as they were in a 1953 photo!
Stop being a denier goat!
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chippy
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Here we go again. Can I see those photos again. J/K
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David K
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Well, since there are new Nomads every day who won't know where to look... and seeing is believing for most people:
1953 (photo by Howard Gulick):
2009:
2012:
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willardguy
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"Well, since there are new Nomads every day who won't know where to look... and seeing is believing for most people:"
yup, hang onto your seats kids, david's gonna take you on a magical mystery tour! do you like maps? do you like useless photo's? do you like movies
about gladiators? 
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24baja
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Hey David thanks for the additional pics, I always appreciate your intelligence and contributions. If you had not have answered my questions 7 or 8
years ago I would probably still be asking those questions. I dont know how you put up with all the negative comments.
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David K
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De nada, 2 for Baja!
We all have various reasons for posting here. I just wish more would do so for friendship or information exchange. It is the Internet, after all, and
'everything' is on the Internet!
By-the-way, I had a nice visit with Mando last month... They don't get much nicer than he!
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Udo
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I don't know if I would have the fortitude to keep doing what you do on Nomads, David.
Udo
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DawnPatrol
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I agree with all of the above!
David K, you are tops in my book for all the informative things you post
Alan Beilstein
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mtgoat666
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Quote: Originally posted by David K  |
Well, since there are new Nomads every day who won't know where to look... and seeing is believing for most people:
1953 (photo by Howard Gulick):
2009:
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Dk,
The fact that salt tolerant palms have survived the recent sea level change does not mean sea level has not changed, and will not keep changing.
Perhaps you can explain what conclusions you draw from the photos?
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by willardguy | "Well, since there are new Nomads every day who won't know where to look... and seeing is believing for most people:"
yup, hang onto your seats kids, david's gonna take you on a magical mystery tour! do you like maps? do you like useless photo's? do you like movies
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I like gladiator movies!
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dtbushpilot
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These occurrences happen from time to time especially during high tide and wind combinations like we are currently seeing. You always hear things like
"we haven't seen this much flooding since the storm of 1923" or comparing today's conditions to similar conditions in the past. What caused it to
happen 50, 100 or 1000 years ago? Was it climate change? Of course it was, it changes all the time, it always will.
(paragraph break for the vision impaired and cranky) I like your maps, pictures and helpful info too David, I appreciate your contributions in
general. I'm glad there are a few contributors left on Nomads, we can't afford to lose many more...
"Life is tough".....It's even tougher if you're stupid.....
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Barry A.
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| Quote: Originally posted by dtbushpilot | These occurrences happen from time to time especially during high tide and wind combinations like we are currently seeing. You always hear things like
"we haven't seen this much flooding since the storm of 1923" or comparing today's conditions to similar conditions in the past. What caused it to
happen 50, 100 or 1000 years ago? Was it climate change? Of course it was, it changes all the time, it always will.
(paragraph break for the vision impaired and cranky) I like your maps, pictures and helpful info too David, I appreciate your contributions in
general. I'm glad there are a few contributors left on Nomads, we can't afford to lose many more... |
-------times 10, "bushpilot"------------you are exactly right!!!
Barry
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David K
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Thank amigos!
Mt. Goat, you mentioned rising sea level... after seeing the photos showing the sea level is the same over the past 53 years... do you not see the
photographic evidence of no sea level changes other than the daily high and low tides? That palm tree clump did not uproot itself and replant higher
up the beach. In fact, it is flat where it grows, so no higher up is possible.
It's okay to trust your own eyes and not the government on occasion! 
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woody with a view
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by willardguy | "Well, since there are new Nomads every day who won't know where to look... and seeing is believing for most people:"
yup, hang onto your seats kids, david's gonna take you on a magical mystery tour! do you like maps? do you like useless photo's? do you like movies
about gladiators? |
I like gladiator movies! |
Joey, have you ever seen a grown man naked?
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BigBearRider
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | Thank amigos!
Mt. Goat, you mentioned rising sea level... after seeing the photos showing the sea level is the same over the past 53 years... do you not see the
photographic evidence of no sea level changes other than the daily high and low tides? That palm tree clump did not uproot itself and replant higher
up the beach. In fact, it is flat where it grows, so no higher up is possible.
It's okay to trust your own eyes and not the government on occasion!
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I don't think anyone can reasonably draw a scientific conclusion that sea levels have not changed based on these photos.
For starters, we don't know whether the initial photos were taken at high tide, and the last photos taken at low tide, vice versa, or anywhere in
between, so how high up on the beach the water reaches is not very informative.
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