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Cyndarouh
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US warning not to cross into Baja
Anyone know whats up with this New Warning not to cross into Baja? Is it to do with the latest kiddnapping/ mudders in TJ? I am going anyway. What
the heck its never stoped us girls before. Plus we blow threw TJ anyway. I guess less people and traffic for us the next three days.
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surfer jim
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Warning?....what did they say?....I haven't heard anything.....
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Bruce R Leech
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Where did you see the warning? what did it say?
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Tucker
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I checked the State Department website
There is no such warning posted there.
\"I think it would be a good idea.\"
-- Mahatma Gandhi, when asked what he thought of Western civilization
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Bruce R Leech
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there are not any travel advisories or warnings issued by the U.S State Dept. at this time for Baja Or Mexico. this sound like a bad rummer to me.
some People start these rummer so they can Chase of tourism. possibly they want to be the only ones in Mexico.
Tourism Terrorism
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Cyndarouh
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Rick Roberts talk show host in SD and in the New's Paper, local news. It says Fox also is saying to stay out. I just emailed Rick Roberts and Thanked
him. Traffic will be less the next Four days for me. Its all about muders, kiddnapping and no medical help. Rick is going Off I mean Going OFF! I also
told him if you stay out of the bars, know where you are travel with some one and so on. No problems and I am a Female going down with my buddy to
take a cooking class in Ensenada. Thats where the info is coming from.
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surfer jim
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Just saw it on a off-road website...looks real to me.....
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Bajalero
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As it stands right now , the US ambassador has made a clear warning to Mexico that they better get things under control for the safety of tourist.
The state dept. official stance is that they , at this moment , have not issued a warning "against" travel to Mexico but have sent out a statement to
tourist that given the current crime environment , extra precautions are needed.
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Bajalero
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A few news links
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/world/3011137
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/01/...
http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/weekly/bltravelwarning.ht...
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Bajalero
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for those out of the area
Here's a internet radio link. Host says he's going to start doing a daily tj /Mexico news update. 6-10 am m-f pst.
http://www.760kfmb.com/radio_popup/index.php
[Edited on 1-27-2005 by Bajalero]
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Bruce R Leech
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this is the warning issued by the us state dept.
don't listen to these radio nuts they take every thing out of context. they will say anything to start controversy for there ratings . when you post
these alarmists statements you are only helping to spread lies.
when there is a official woning it will be on the official website.
Travel Warning Issued by State Department
Dateline: 12/11/99
The US State Department has issued a worldwide warning to American citizens traveling abroad due to "credible information that terrorists are planning
attacks." The warning covers the period through the start of the New Year and Ramadan.
The warning advises Americans traveling abroad to avoid Millennial celebrations and cited information indicating terrorist attacks "could be planned
for locations throughout the world where large gatherings and celebrations will be taking place."
Other safety recommendation for Americans traveling during the warning period include:
Avoid large crowds and gatherings
Keep a low profile
Vary routes and times of travel
Review security practices
Remain alert to changing situations
Exercise caution
Contact the nearest U.S. embassy or consulate for up-to-date information
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Tio Rocky
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State Department
01/26/2005
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/pa/pa_2100.html
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bajaandy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Cyndarouh
I guess less people and traffic for us the next three days. |
I agree with Cyndarouh.
And as long as one keeps ones nose clean and stays out of trouble, not a problem with traveling to Baja.
subvert the dominant paradigm
"If you travel with a man, you must either fall out with him or make him your good friend."
JBL Noel
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Bruce R Leech
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this is a Public Announcement they have not posted a warning yet
ANNOUNCEMENT
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE
Office of the Spokesman
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This information is current as of today, Thu Jan 27 11:33:33 2005.
Mexico
January 26, 2005
This Public Announcement is being issued to alert U.S. citizens to the current security situation along the Mexican side of the U.S.-Mexico border in
the wake of increased violence among drug traffickers. Although the majority of travelers in the region visit without mishap, violent criminal
activity, including murder and kidnapping, in Mexico's northern border region has increased. The overwhelming majority of the victims of violent crime
have been Mexican citizens. Nonetheless, U.S. citizens should be aware of the risk posed by the deteriorating security situation. This Public
Announcement expires on April 25, 2005.
Violent criminal activity along the U.S.-Mexico border has increased as a product of a war between criminal organizations struggling for control of
the lucrative narcotics trade along the border. The leaders of several major criminal organizations have been arrested, creating a power vacuum. This
has resulted in a wave of violence aimed primarily at members of those trafficking organizations and criminal justice officials. However, foreign
visitors, including Americans, have been among the victims of homicides and kidnappings in the border region in recent months.
Mexico's police forces suffer from lack of funds and training, and the judicial system is weak, overworked, and inefficient. Criminals, armed with an
impressive array of weapons, know there is little chance they will be caught and punished. In some cases, assailants have been wearing full or partial
police uniforms and have used vehicles that resemble police vehicles, indicating some elements of the police might be involved.
U.S. citizens are urged to be especially aware of safety and security concerns when visiting the border region. The majority of the thousands of U.S.
citizens who cross the border each day do so safely, exercising common-sense precautions such as visiting only the legitimate business and tourism
areas of border towns during daylight hours. It is strongly recommended that red-light districts and neighborhoods where street drug dealing occurs be
avoided.
U.S. citizens who are victims of crime in the border region are urged to contact the Consular Section of the nearest U.S. consulate for advice and
assistance.
The U.S. Consulate General in Tijuana, which covers the states of Baja California Norte and Baja California Sur, is located at Ave. Tapachula 96,
Colonia Hip?dromo. The Consulate General's telephone number is (52)(664) 622-7400, the fax for the office of American Citizen Services is (664)
686-1168, and the Consulate General's web address is http://www.usembassy-mexico.gov/tijuana/Teacs.htm .
The U.S. Consulate in Nogales, which covers northern Sonora, is located at Calle San Jose, Fraccionamiento Los Alamos. The Consulate's telephone
number is (52)(631) 313-4820, the fax for the Consulate is (52) (631) 313-46-52, the e-mail address for the Consulate is nogales7@prodigy.net.mx and
the Consulate's web address is http://www.usembassy-mexico.gov/nogales/NE_Introduction.htm .
The U.S. Consulate General in Ciudad Ju?rez, which covers the state of Chihuahua, is located at Avenida Lopez Mateos 924 Norte. The Consulate
General's telephone number is (52)(656) 611-3000, the fax for the Consulate General is (656) 616-9056, the e-mail address for the Consulate General's
Office of American Citizen Services is cdjamericancitizens@state.gov, and the Consulate General's web address is http://usembassy.state.gov/posts/mx2/wwwhmain.html .
The U.S. Consulate in Nuevo Laredo, which covers northern Coahuila and northwestern Tamaulipas states, is located at Calle Allende 3330, Colonia
Jardin. The Consulate's telephone number is (52)(867) 714-0512, the e-mail address for the Consulate's Office of American Citizen Services is
NuevoLaredo-ACS@state.gov, and the Consulate's web address is http://nuevolaredo.usconsulate.gov/nuevolaredo/index.html .
The U.S. Consulate in Matamoros, which covers eastern and southern Tamaulipas state, is located at Calle Primera #2002, Colonia Jardin. The
Consulate's telephone number is (52)(868) 812-4402, the fax for the Consulate is (868) 812-2171, and the Consulate's web address is http://www.usembassy-mexico.gov/matamoros/matamoros1.html .
Americans living or traveling in Mexico are encouraged to register with the nearest U.S. Embassy or Consulate through the State Department's travel
registration website, https://travelregistration.state.gov , and to obtain updated information on travel and security within Mexico. Americans without Internet access
may register directly with the nearest U.S. Embassy or Consulate. By registering, American citizens make it easier for the Embassy or Consulate to
contact them in case of emergency.
Updated information on travel and security for Mexico may be obtained from the Department of State by calling 1-888-407-4747 within the U.S., or from
overseas, 1-317-472-2328. U.S. citizens should consult the Consular Information Sheet for Mexico, the Worldwide Caution Public Announcement, and the
travel publication A Safe Trip Abroad, all of which are available on the State Department's Internet site at http://travel.state.gov .
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FrankO
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Listening to Rick Roberts for valid information is akin asking a politician for a straightforward answer. He is an alarmist in the extreme and rarely
alters a good story to interject a fact. Maybe he posts on this board under the name....????
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Cyndarouh
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If you note I was asking if any one had heard of this warning. Not saying if it were true or not. Its all over local TV and radio this morning. I am
not brotherd by any of it. Never have had any trouble and my buddy and I will head south noonish Friday. By the way Tio Rocky, your fresh apple pie
will be in Ensenada early Sat.  :
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FrankO
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Just a little ribbing.
I tell most first timers anymore that it's frightening down south. The roads are terrible etc, etc. Obviously that's not working.
Union thug.
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Bruce R Leech
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I think I am safer here than in any city in the U.S.A.
[Edited on 1-27-2005 by Bruce R Leech]
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Pompano
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Lots of police activity at the border these days....
Just the other day I was overtaken by Michael Jackson as he was fleeing from the federales through Mulege........
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JESSE
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Violence has increased, we are in the middle of a war betwen the Tijuana-Golfo cartel alliance, and the Guadalajara-Sinaloa cartels, in the past few
weeks all cartels have lost key people because of rival hits, and theres nothing the goverment can do about it until one side starts to lose and
decides to call it a day.
Just so you know, 99% of the deaths belong to people who are:
A.-Drug dealers
B.-Corrupt police
If you arent in any of those two categories, your as safe as always.
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