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[*] posted on 3-8-2016 at 05:28 PM
Coco road search


Roads near Coco's
I noticed the the Almanac has many missing roads that are shown on my GPS map.
Consulting INEGI H11D29 I see a road leading N from the Punta Calamajue road east of Coco's. It goes to Punta Final.
Anybody taken that road??

FYI, when I did my INEGI search I stumbled across other interesting maps.
H11D18 Gonzaga
H11D28 Turquesa & Mission S Maria.
H11B88 Hurefanito
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[*] posted on 3-8-2016 at 05:54 PM


The one south from Molino de Lacy that passes the Pioneer Mine?



I traveled only a couple miles of it in 2002... was more of a motorcycle route. Back in the late 1950s, it was a preferred route over the deep sand track along Arroyo San Francisquito.

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[*] posted on 3-8-2016 at 07:01 PM


This photo was taken from the hill at Molino de Lacy... facing south. The road going south, right of my truck, along the right side of the photo, is it...






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[*] posted on 3-8-2016 at 07:10 PM


but i've seen no evidence of it continuing over the mountain?
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[*] posted on 3-8-2016 at 10:22 PM


Quote: Originally posted by willardguy  
but i've seen no evidence of it continuing over the mountain?

By anything bigger than m/c anymore you mean?




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[*] posted on 3-8-2016 at 10:25 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Quote: Originally posted by willardguy  
but i've seen no evidence of it continuing over the mountain?

By anything bigger than m/c anymore you mean?


who's done it on a scoot?
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[*] posted on 3-8-2016 at 11:51 PM


Quote: Originally posted by willardguy  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Quote: Originally posted by willardguy  
but i've seen no evidence of it continuing over the mountain?

By anything bigger than m/c anymore you mean?


who's done it on a scoot?


Kacey Smith from Alfonsina's... it's in her book... plus all the tracks I saw.




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[*] posted on 3-9-2016 at 12:08 AM


I think Kacey calls it The Mine Trail...



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[*] posted on 3-9-2016 at 12:19 AM


Quote: Originally posted by motoged  
I think Kacey calls it The Mine Trail...


Yes, as it was how the ore got from the Pioneer Mine to Molino San Francisquito (Molino de Lacy today)... and that was not using motorcycles!

It was a very tough road in the 60's and 70s... Mike Humfreville even wrote a chapter about it when he drove it in his Land Cruiser!: http://math.ucr.edu/ftm/bajaPages/Correspondents/MikeHumfrev...




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[*] posted on 3-9-2016 at 04:40 AM


it's a medium difficult 4x4 road
I have done it more times than I can count
last time in May 2014
some cool mining stuff out there
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[*] posted on 3-9-2016 at 05:26 AM


wouldn't want to be traveling during an earthquake in this area (last pic) Interesting route. Don't think I'd want to venture here in my Yukon XLT, even though I love 'tough' routes. This looks too challenging. What do you mean, 4x4, regarding the mine reference? "stuff" Any pic's of the 'stuff'.? Would love to see them here. (save me a trick attempt)
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Quote: Originally posted by Phil S  
wouldn't want to be traveling during an earthquake in this area (last pic) Interesting route. Don't think I'd want to venture here in my Yukon XLT, even though I love 'tough' routes. This looks too challenging. What do you mean, 4x4, regarding the mine reference? "stuff" Any pic's of the 'stuff'.? Would love to see them here. (save me a trick attempt)


Starting here at Punta Final, then click on the right arrow to advance through the photos of the road and mine: https://carlosnpainter.smugmug.com/Events/Manly-Men-Baja-201...




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[*] posted on 3-9-2016 at 11:09 AM


This was taken 10 years ago, but I believe this was at the intersection of the road from Punta Final to Highway 5, and that "straight" north/south road (south of Molina Lacy).





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[*] posted on 3-9-2016 at 02:58 PM


love those old Baja road signs

the most creative is probably the Santa Barbara/San Miguel sign at La Junta




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[*] posted on 3-9-2016 at 04:42 PM


Cool beans, guys, thanks for the mini tour. We are not quite that adventurous in the 4x4 department (working with a steadfast but bulky Chevy trailblazer here). I'm curious if one attempted a round trip from the north side to the mine and back, would that be a little less hairy? Or is the mine and road north still in pretty rough terrain?
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[*] posted on 3-9-2016 at 04:50 PM


now im really lost...I thought we WERE talking about going in from the north?
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[*] posted on 3-9-2016 at 04:56 PM


Ah crap, no that was my bad, Willard. The first couple of comments were regarding from the south and I just got all bamboozled. I guess my question would thus be the reverse - from the south to the mine and back.
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[*] posted on 3-9-2016 at 05:08 PM


I could be wrong...but what I've assumed is the other end (calamajue road junction) has mining going on and guards on duty, that you can see from the calamajue road. this within the last couple years.
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Quote: Originally posted by toronja  
Ah crap, no that was my bad, Willard. The first couple of comments were regarding from the south and I just got all bamboozled. I guess my question would thus be the reverse - from the south to the mine and back.


Why not just make a loop... much of the west side is now paved, however.

Note "Pioneer Mine" on the east side road. Look at 4x4abc's photos to see the road and 4 wheeled vehicles on it...


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[*] posted on 3-9-2016 at 05:13 PM


Google Earth is your trip planning friend... Bing Maps has even newer satellite images of many areas.

Timothy Walker found dynamite in a shed near the south end of the road at one of the (then) semi-active gold mines. While TimsBaja.com is no longer on the Internet, I have all his trip pages saved and can show them if interested. Tim and his friends Robert and Robert did a lot of exploring around Coco's Corner and Gonzaga Bay 10-15 years ago.




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