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[*] posted on 4-11-2016 at 03:19 PM
Stingray


It's getting to be "shuffle your feet" time. Small skates are a constant menace in inshore water. They can deliver a very painful sting, but one of these large stingrays could really wreck your outing. The 2 stings were: long (6.5 inches), over short (4.5 inches). They are barbed and venomous. Maybe 40 pound stingray found dead on the beach at Las Garzas near Loreto this morning. Boot and hand are of adult male Homo sapiens.







[Edited on 4-11-2016 by tehag]




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[*] posted on 4-11-2016 at 03:31 PM


Wow. That's a big bugger. Where did you find the ray?


I didn't know they had two stingers. One is certainly enough to ruin your day. I got stung in the foot last year. It hurt some.
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[*] posted on 4-11-2016 at 03:33 PM


Been there, done that, two thumbs way down. Do the shuffle, folks!
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[*] posted on 4-11-2016 at 04:12 PM


OUCH!!!!!!!
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[*] posted on 4-11-2016 at 04:12 PM


that's a monster!



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[*] posted on 4-11-2016 at 05:16 PM


Yes, those will carve you up pretty good. They do look handsome though.
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[*] posted on 4-11-2016 at 07:34 PM


Handsome, probably to another ray ??
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[*] posted on 4-11-2016 at 09:52 PM


First trip of my life to San Felipe in 66... Morning #1.. raft mask and snorkle in hand Nobody TOLD ME to do the shuffle. (I was 12) ;o(
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[*] posted on 4-11-2016 at 11:13 PM


Quote: Originally posted by hombre66  
First trip of my life to San Felipe in 66... Morning #1.. raft mask and snorkle in hand Nobody TOLD ME to do the shuffle. (I was 12) ;o(
Remedy that works: HOT HOT water soak breaks down the enzyme


yup, it's either a trip to the doctor/hospital or HOT water




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[*] posted on 4-12-2016 at 09:24 AM


Quote: Originally posted by BigBearRider  
Wow. That's a big bugger. Where did you find the ray?


I didn't know they had two stingers. One is certainly enough to ruin your day. I got stung in the foot last year. It hurt some.


He said "found dead on the beach at Las Garzas near Loreto "




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[*] posted on 4-12-2016 at 10:22 AM


my sisters kids both got hit while visiting ... no one advised ME about the shuffle but then again, I am the only one here who swims at the beach. None of the locals know how to swim and are afraid of the open water. They will "swim" at the entrance to the lagoon.

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[*] posted on 4-12-2016 at 10:33 AM


some claim its good to keep meat tenderizer on hand to treat the wound....
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[*] posted on 4-12-2016 at 10:45 AM


you can put anything you like on the wound
placebos have a 50% rate of success

to break down the proteins of the venom you need medication or heat if you can't make it to a doctor fast.

most pains go down over time - this pain increases for the first 2 days

I have driven many to hospitals and doctors, all in so much pain that they wanted to jump out of the window of the car rather than endure the time until hospital. A few days on morphine is not uncommon.
I drove a football player (huge guy) to Santa Rosalia from Chivato once. He was crying like a child the whole time.

Sting rays are bad news. Killed this Australian TV nature guy a few years back.




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[*] posted on 4-12-2016 at 11:13 AM


Quote: Originally posted by durrelllrobert  
Quote: Originally posted by BigBearRider  
Wow. That's a big bugger. Where did you find the ray?


I didn't know they had two stingers. One is certainly enough to ruin your day. I got stung in the foot last year. It hurt some.


He said "found dead on the beach at Las Garzas near Loreto "


Thanks.

Maybe the geographical location was there in the original post along and I just carelessly missed it. Or maybe it was added when the original poster edited the original post. I don't know.
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[*] posted on 4-12-2016 at 02:07 PM


I think that rays have only one barb on the tail:

http://animals.howstuffworks.com/fish/stingray.htm




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[*] posted on 4-12-2016 at 02:18 PM


Some ray species have multiple barbs. I'm not sure about the common Baja species. The one I found only chose to use one - that was enough.

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[*] posted on 4-12-2016 at 02:36 PM


Thanks for the clarification....wicked critter potential.



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[*] posted on 4-12-2016 at 02:42 PM
Stingray location


I edited the location into the post after someone asked about it.



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[*] posted on 4-12-2016 at 03:28 PM


I've done first aid to over half a dozen ray victims (fortunately none were ME). The meat tenderizer is a MYTH; first and foremost, and as soon as possible, immerse the puncture site in HOT water, as hot as the victim can tolerate (not too hot to damage the skin) and keep it hot, adding to it. The intense pain will lessen considerably almost immediately, and will return just as fast if removed from the hot water. I've transported people in my truck with their foot in a bucket of hot water.

Second; rays bury in ocean mud, and carry a host of nasty pathogens you don't want inside of you. GET TO A DOCTOR. Start a regimen of antibiotics and take ALL of them, not just a few day's worth. My last couple of 'patients' were seen by my neighbor, an MD. On one sting he novacained and lanced the wound, letting it drain, and put in a stitch the next day, also prescribed the antibiotics. His wife, a nurse was on hand also, and told her story of being whacked and refusing the lance/meds, and paid for it with a year of encapsulated infection and pain.




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[*] posted on 4-12-2016 at 04:24 PM


Good info Buddah, thanks for the input. I have been aware of the dangers of a sting ray encounter most of my life, but never realized how often it seems to happen.

Thanks to all who posted so far, I have learned something today!

Edit; Prior to reading this thread, my first line of treatment would have been to put an ice pack on the wound while heading to the medico,

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