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Nextlevelbaja
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Looks like fun!
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David K
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Baja is full of that kind of fun... man vs. the Baja Desert! It can be on foot, on bike, on mule, or on 4WD!
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Ken Cooke
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We could run this trail in the afternoon and still have time that morning for trips on the bay, paddle boarding, kayaking, sleeping (me)..
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David K
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The XR Trail (La Turquesa Grade) or the Pioneer Mine Trail? These threads are getting confusing without trail names included, lol!
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Ken Cooke
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Quote: Originally posted by David K  | | The XR Trail (La Turquesa Grade) or the Pioneer Mine Trail? These threads are getting confusing without trail names included, lol!
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Pioneer Trail. Sorry for the confusion. Rich T has offered to lead the Pioneer Mine Trail. See you in February!
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David K
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Do pay homage to the founder of Molino de Lacy. The mill originally was named Molino de San Francisquito after the bay and port where Punta Final
village is now located on the Ensenada de San Francisquito (usually called 'Gonzaga Bay'). William Lacy died and was buried right there at the mill.
Read more:
Part 1: http://www.sanfelipe.com.mx/articles_stories/Articles2002/ki...
Part 2: http://www.sanfelipe.com.mx/articles_stories/Articles2002/ki...
The northeast side of the mill hill.
From the southwest side of this hill, the gold mine road heads south towards the Pioneer Mine and on to Coco's Corner.
The Mill of San Francisquito and mine to the south are shown on this 1930 Baja map:
Here is the full Pioneer Mine road shown on the 1962 Gulick map:
Over on the right in the 1970 Cliff Cross Map (this guide and map is how we learned about La Turquesa Canyon):
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PaulW
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For sure there are 3 similar trails nearby on this thread. Pretty mixed up situation on this thread.
1) Trail passes by the Turquiose mine. Cocos is near the bottom, east of the trail
2) Trail passes by the Pioneer mine and Molino de Lacy. Traveling north the start is east of Cocos.
3) Trail leads to the mission Santa Maria. Trail starts near Catavina/Santa Inez
And yes, the photos of Pioneer and the climb to the mission are very similar.
It is difficult to follow with all the newly concocted names.
When you post try to keep the reader aware what you are talking about.
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