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tres santos
http://www.theecologist.org/News/news_analysis/2987621/bruta...
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Thanks for the link. The web page mentions a New York Times article. In January the NYT listed 52 places to visit this year. Todos Santos is number
23. Why? Well, because of the Tres Santos development, of course.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/01/07/travel/places-...
"Nearly 50 miles north of Cabo San Lucas, tranquil Todos Santos has long been a surfer’s retreat and a day-trip destination for Cabo travelers
keen to visit art galleries. In summer, the new Tres Santos development may tempt longer visits via Hotel San Cristobal, a new 32-room beachfront
hotel from Bunkhouse, owners of Hotel San Jose in Austin. A new 3.5-mile hiking and biking path will link the beach to town to encourage sustainable
commutes. Tres Santos, which bills itself as a “mindful living community” and includes vacation homes, also plans to open a farm and a village with
shops, restaurants and a farmer’s market this year."
Elaine Glusac
[Edited on 4-29-2016 by SFandH]
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SFandH
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I think this is the beachfront hotel development at Punta Lobos. Correct me if I'm wrong.
A picture is worth a 1000 words.
http://tinyurl.com/hr4nezm
[Edited on 4-29-2016 by SFandH]
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Nothing new here. Viviane Mahieux's one sided articles campaigning against this development have been around for a while.
The fight for and against this development are like watching a political debate....both sides telling only one part of the story
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Quote: Originally posted by rts551  | Nothing new here. Viviane Mahieux's one sided articles campaigning against this development have been around for a while.
The fight for and against this development are like watching a political debate....both sides telling only one part of the story
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you are so right - let's make all of Baja look/feel/smell like Cabo. Let's kick those bastard indigenous out
Harald Pietschmann
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"1000 words"
And a few of them not fit for print. gawdawful
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| Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc | | Quote: Originally posted by rts551 | Nothing new here. Viviane Mahieux's one sided articles campaigning against this development have been around for a while.
The fight for and against this development are like watching a political debate....both sides telling only one part of the story
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make baja anything.
you are so right - let's make all of Baja look/feel/smell like Cabo. Let's kick those bastard indigenous out |
When did I ever say make Baja anything. That should be up the citizens. and sure as hell, the indigenous got kicked out way before the yuppies
took over Todos Santos.
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The Sales Pitch
Just spent some time reading their website. Here are some words/phrases from just a couple of the web pages used to sell their houses that don't
exist.
An epicenter for well-being.
artisanal
holistic
integrated
Commune with nature
Write. Paint. Breathe. Grow. Surf.
morning gong and sun salutations
Beauty and solitude
Find your own space
reach the summit in this stellar backdrop
inspires a shared sense of belonging and purpose
yoga teachers, and the enlightened crowd
wake-up call for mindful living
the soulful
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They should fit right in with Todos Santos then. You forgot to mention the free rock and roll concert every year where you can smoke a little
medicine.
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| Quote: Originally posted by SFandH | Just spent some time reading their website. Here are some words/phrases from just a couple of the web pages used to sell their houses that don't
exist.
An epicenter for well-being.
artisanal
holistic
integrated
Commune with nature
Write. Paint. Breathe. Grow. Surf.
morning gong and sun salutations
Beauty and solitude
Find your own space
reach the summit in this stellar backdrop
inspires a shared sense of belonging and purpose
yoga teachers, and the enlightened crowd
wake-up call for mindful living
the soulful
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hey, big money is super smart - more so than most of us. If you can sell yoga courses with those phrases - you can certainly sell property with them.
Harald Pietschmann
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The development - and its opposition - are gaining a lot of visibility in social media. The anti-Tres Santos forces appear to be preaching to the
converted and therefore have yet to reach anyone in a position to intervene. For their part, the developers have yet to acknowledge that there is a
shred of opposition to the project, and that their efforts are in harmony with the townspeople, the fishermen, etc. I would suspect that their ads are
reaching more people than the voice of the opposition, which is largely led by volunteers and not a PR machine.
Needless to say, it will be interesting to see how this all plays out.
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Last time you were in Todos Santos, RTS? The Yuppies have arrived but most of us old timers still enjoy our peaceful living along with a Music event
and nice restaurant once in awhile. How would you like a Development like this in Abreojos? Think I'll go for a quiet walk on the beach. Tio
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Tio, About 4 months ago. And no thanks...we do not have rock concerts or nice restaurants....just normal small town Mexican stuff. Have a nice
walk...looking at the beacjh right now...not a soul in sight.
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| Quote: Originally posted by rts551 | | Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc | | Quote: Originally posted by rts551 | Nothing new here. Viviane Mahieux's one sided articles campaigning against this development have been around for a while.
The fight for and against this development are like watching a political debate....both sides telling only one part of the story
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make baja anything.
you are so right - let's make all of Baja look/feel/smell like Cabo. Let's kick those bastard indigenous out |
When did I ever say make Baja anything. That should be up the citizens. and sure as hell, the indigenous got kicked out way before the yuppies
took over Todos Santos.
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Don't think locals see yuppies taking over or indigenous kicked out. Maybe they don't see it. I don't. I do see greed and outsiders
sneaking development though at Lobos. The marketing I'm reading isn't Todos -- maybe an outsiders idea of what yuppies think Todos is.
They'll find out when they check things out.
Cerritos went the way Lobos has and San Pedrito is ripe for more development. Then La Pastora.
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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Lots of interesting reading about tres santos at the CSU newspaper's website. Make sure to check out the comments at the end of each article.
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion...
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I give CSU credit for following up on events in Todos Santos and reporting them to the student body. It leads me to believe that they might have been
unwittingly co-opted into "green-washing" the Tres Santos project.
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Just one of the "locals" comments....
Joaquin Salgdo • 3 months ago
To Adams, Bodian, Obstfeld and the Collegian semi-reporter who wrote the uninformed and biased article-
What you wrote is just the simple mark of low class Americans trying to live an upscale life in poor and jobless Todos Santos, and desperately want to
stop progress in town, we as local business owners and people that actually work are eager for this town to bloom and show the world its potential,
you on the other side want to continue to live under your miserable pension as rich guys in this town that has been forgotten and disregarded form
development-
Only 30 to 35 uninformed fishermen are the ones that are standing up to something that they do not understand nor want- and their leaders are being
funded by americans who want to make a living out of videos and lies like Lisa Jackson and Sarah Teale-
Open your eyes students, speak wieth the peolple not with their leaders that cleary have other agenda-
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Cachano Higuera • 3 months ago
a very small very unhappy frustrated group of foreign and some Mexicans
from Mexico city lazy freeloaders are those who criticize the project
they should be expelled from Mexico, they are causing a division in the town in fact 98% of the local people agree with
this source of employment, fix your culture and stay at home, Baja is not the place of alien haters
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I agree that it's interesting to read the comments. While I doubt the development enjoys 98% support of the local population, it's also undoubtedly
true that the town is not unanimously opposed to the project. What remains is a dogfight between the resort's PR department and strident activists,
along with the innuendo of back-door deals, crooked politicians and clueless marine biology students. The competing narratives of "Mindful Living in
Paradise" versus "Salvemos Punta Lobos" have taken on lives of their own, more so than the future of the project or its true impact - good and bad -
upon the community.
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well said PaulDavid
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