BajaNomad
Not logged in [Login - Register]

Go To Bottom
Printable Version  
Author: Subject: August Baja Bound Article: Las Arrastras de Arriola
David K
Honored Nomad
*********


Avatar


Posts: 64478
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
Member Is Offline

Mood: Have Baja Fever

[*] posted on 8-19-2016 at 02:07 PM
August Baja Bound Article: Las Arrastras de Arriola


Please enjoy a look at another historic site in Baja and one that may vanish under the construction a paved road, between Gonzaga Bay and Laguna Chapala...

https://www.bajabound.com/bajaadventures/bajatravel/las_arra...

[Edited on 9-1-2016 by David K]




"So Much Baja, So Little Time..."

See the NEW www.VivaBaja.com for maps, travel articles, links, trip photos, and more!
Baja Missions and History On Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/bajamissions/
Camping, off-roading, Viva Baja discussion: https://www.facebook.com/groups/vivabaja


View user's profile Visit user's homepage
Udo
Elite Nomad
******


Avatar


Posts: 6321
Registered: 4-26-2008
Location: Black Hills, SD/Ensenada/San Felipe
Member Is Offline

Mood: TEQUILA!

[*] posted on 8-19-2016 at 02:38 PM


WOW!
:o
:o
:o

I had no idea!




Udo

Youth is wasted on the young!

View user's profile
bajabuddha
Banned





Posts: 4024
Registered: 4-12-2013
Location: Baja New Mexico
Member Is Offline

Mood: Always cranky unless medicated

[*] posted on 8-19-2016 at 02:47 PM


Geezo, ya'd think they could at least go around the dang thing! What with millions of people being displaced by seawater we should band together and form a human shield to protect this......... whateveritis.....



I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!

86 - 45*

View user's profile
David K
Honored Nomad
*********


Avatar


Posts: 64478
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
Member Is Offline

Mood: Have Baja Fever

[*] posted on 8-19-2016 at 02:57 PM


There is so much Baja out there!
There is not enough time to see it all!
Baja is the gift that keeps on giving!

Anyone who is interested in the many sites all over Baja that were important at one time or of general interest but not well know today should really get a copy of Peter Gerhard & Howard Gulick's Lower California Guidebook. Last printing was in 1970 (of 1967 edition). The 1962 edition or 1964 printing of it are also the same, just without an update note section added.

Walt Wheelock & Howard Gulick revised the book in 1975 to include the new Transpeninsular Highway and other new roads built in the early 70s. The title was modified to Baja California Guidebook and it was reprinted in 1980. It contains all of the earlier Gerhard & Gulick historic notes and dirt road logs. A 3-part folding map replaced the maps drawn by Gulick in the older guide (1956, 1958, 1962, 1967 editions, and 1964 & 1970 printings).


1962-1970 cover




1975-1980 cover


Oh, look at the beautiful palm tree on Concepcion Bay (photo taken prior to the 1962 book). :light: :cool:




"So Much Baja, So Little Time..."

See the NEW www.VivaBaja.com for maps, travel articles, links, trip photos, and more!
Baja Missions and History On Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/bajamissions/
Camping, off-roading, Viva Baja discussion: https://www.facebook.com/groups/vivabaja


View user's profile Visit user's homepage
mtgoat666
Select Nomad
*******




Posts: 17289
Registered: 9-16-2006
Location: San Diego
Member Is Offline

Mood: Hot n spicy

[*] posted on 8-19-2016 at 04:18 PM


A suggested edit for you. You dont call a wheel mill and "arrastra mill." Just call it an "arrastra." Saying "arrastra mill" is like saying "tuna fish."

Also, those old gold mills are often pretty toxic, lots of mercury. Often the mercury concentrations are screaming hot. They look fun to poke around in, but often a bit unhealthy (the mill surfaces and surrounding waste rock from mill)
View user's profile
David K
Honored Nomad
*********


Avatar


Posts: 64478
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
Member Is Offline

Mood: Have Baja Fever

[*] posted on 8-19-2016 at 04:44 PM


I hear "tuna fish" all the time! LOL
Okay thanks, goat, comment noted.
An arrastra is a mill, horizontal, animal or human operated. Arrastra mill was just a way of giving the meaning or English with the Spanish.

Speaking of mercury, better stop eating tuna fish!




"So Much Baja, So Little Time..."

See the NEW www.VivaBaja.com for maps, travel articles, links, trip photos, and more!
Baja Missions and History On Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/bajamissions/
Camping, off-roading, Viva Baja discussion: https://www.facebook.com/groups/vivabaja


View user's profile Visit user's homepage
rts551
Elite Nomad
******




Posts: 6699
Registered: 9-5-2003
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 8-19-2016 at 05:58 PM


When was the last time you viewed the destruction of this site?
View user's profile
David K
Honored Nomad
*********


Avatar


Posts: 64478
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
Member Is Offline

Mood: Have Baja Fever

[*] posted on 8-19-2016 at 07:01 PM


Where did I say it was already destroyed?

I was there last month. It was all detailed in my trip report in July.

Hwy. construction camp in on the site and the route is right next to the site. They plow up the surrounding terrain for base dirt and to clear a path meaning it is possible the site may get destroyed, so see it if you can.




"So Much Baja, So Little Time..."

See the NEW www.VivaBaja.com for maps, travel articles, links, trip photos, and more!
Baja Missions and History On Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/bajamissions/
Camping, off-roading, Viva Baja discussion: https://www.facebook.com/groups/vivabaja


View user's profile Visit user's homepage
rts551
Elite Nomad
******




Posts: 6699
Registered: 9-5-2003
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 8-19-2016 at 07:27 PM


Oh, I go through there every couple of months lately. They seem to be protecting it. Thus I was wondering why the conjecture.
View user's profile
bajaguy
Elite Nomad
******




Posts: 9247
Registered: 9-16-2003
Location: Carson City, NV/Ensenada - Baja Country Club
Member Is Offline

Mood: must be 5 O'clock somewhere in Baja

[*] posted on 8-19-2016 at 07:43 PM


Kind of like a VIN number

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
A suggested edit for you. You dont call a wheel mill and "arrastra mill." Just call it an "arrastra." Saying "arrastra mill" is like saying "tuna fish."
View user's profile
AKgringo
Elite Nomad
******




Posts: 5805
Registered: 9-20-2014
Location: Anchorage, AK (no mas!)
Member Is Offline

Mood: Retireded

[*] posted on 8-19-2016 at 08:21 PM


Quote: Originally posted by bajaguy  
Kind of like a VIN number

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
A suggested edit for you. You dont call a wheel mill and "arrastra mill." Just call it an "arrastra." Saying "arrastra mill" is like saying "tuna fish."


All of those terms have been approved for use, by the Department of Redundancy Department!




If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!

"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
View user's profile
ehall
Super Nomad
****




Posts: 1906
Registered: 3-29-2014
Location: Buckeye, Az
Member Is Offline

Mood: It's 5 o'clock somewhere

[*] posted on 8-19-2016 at 09:01 PM


Are they still pumping water from the well? If so that may help protect it.
View user's profile
4x4abc
Ultra Nomad
*****


Avatar


Posts: 4163
Registered: 4-24-2009
Location: La Paz, BCS
Member Is Online

Mood: happy - always

[*] posted on 8-19-2016 at 10:13 PM


great article, David!



Harald Pietschmann
View user's profile Visit user's homepage
David K
Honored Nomad
*********


Avatar


Posts: 64478
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
Member Is Offline

Mood: Have Baja Fever

[*] posted on 8-19-2016 at 10:24 PM


Thanks Harald! Tell BajaBound you like my articles please.

Ed, last year I photographed the well with a large diesel pump next to it used for highway construction. Last month, a worker camp was established right at Las Arrastras, so we didn't see down to the well. No doubt it is an excellent water source still.




"So Much Baja, So Little Time..."

See the NEW www.VivaBaja.com for maps, travel articles, links, trip photos, and more!
Baja Missions and History On Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/bajamissions/
Camping, off-roading, Viva Baja discussion: https://www.facebook.com/groups/vivabaja


View user's profile Visit user's homepage
David K
Honored Nomad
*********


Avatar


Posts: 64478
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
Member Is Offline

Mood: Have Baja Fever

[*] posted on 8-20-2016 at 09:23 AM




I made this map last year (2015) when it was seen how the new highway is being pushed straight south from Las Arrastras rather than going by Coco's Corner. We came to new construction equipment 3.7 miles then. Last month, there was actually road building coming into the canyon (from Las Arrastras) and the distance from Coco's Corner to the new roadwork was 4.6 miles. In the map above, almost at the bottom edge where the road bend left/ south, in the canyon.

Here is the revised 2016 map:



[Edited on 8-20-2016 by David K]




"So Much Baja, So Little Time..."

See the NEW www.VivaBaja.com for maps, travel articles, links, trip photos, and more!
Baja Missions and History On Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/bajamissions/
Camping, off-roading, Viva Baja discussion: https://www.facebook.com/groups/vivabaja


View user's profile Visit user's homepage
TMW
Select Nomad
*******




Posts: 10659
Registered: 9-1-2003
Location: Bakersfield, CA
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 8-20-2016 at 10:12 AM


Great article DK. I never knew Cocos real name before. I just never thought to ask him when I've been there. I wonder if there will be an access to the Turquesa mine along Hwy 5. Ken and his Jeep buddies still need to do that run.
View user's profile
bajaric
Senior Nomad
***




Posts: 602
Registered: 2-2-2015
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 8-20-2016 at 01:24 PM


You guys crack me up! Seems like that has been an important water source for many years, or even centuries. Early mining reports from the turn of the century also describe the area as San Francisquito. effect, affect, need a good proofreader and not spell check for that! where can I get some good ginger beer?
View user's profile
David K
Honored Nomad
*********


Avatar


Posts: 64478
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
Member Is Offline

Mood: Have Baja Fever

[*] posted on 8-20-2016 at 01:27 PM


Yes bajaric, you are correct!
Best ginger beer is probably in Australia? !
That's what the kids drank when I was there. Root beer was nearly impossible to find!




"So Much Baja, So Little Time..."

See the NEW www.VivaBaja.com for maps, travel articles, links, trip photos, and more!
Baja Missions and History On Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/bajamissions/
Camping, off-roading, Viva Baja discussion: https://www.facebook.com/groups/vivabaja


View user's profile Visit user's homepage
Pablito1
Junior Nomad
*




Posts: 56
Registered: 4-24-2011
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 8-21-2016 at 06:58 AM


Good article, thanks.

Regards
View user's profile
David K
Honored Nomad
*********


Avatar


Posts: 64478
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
Member Is Offline

Mood: Have Baja Fever

[*] posted on 8-21-2016 at 12:41 PM


Thank you, I enjoy the history that is so amazing in this rugged land. I am glad others do as well!

My next article will be on an old gold mine town...

Here are my previous Baja Travel Adventure Articles: https://www.bajabound.com/bajaadventures/bajatravel/




"So Much Baja, So Little Time..."

See the NEW www.VivaBaja.com for maps, travel articles, links, trip photos, and more!
Baja Missions and History On Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/bajamissions/
Camping, off-roading, Viva Baja discussion: https://www.facebook.com/groups/vivabaja


View user's profile Visit user's homepage

  Go To Top

 






All Content Copyright 1997- Q87 International; All Rights Reserved.
Powered by XMB; XMB Forum Software © 2001-2014 The XMB Group






"If it were lush and rich, one could understand the pull, but it is fierce and hostile and sullen. The stone mountains pile up to the sky and there is little fresh water. But we know we must go back if we live, and we don't know why." - Steinbeck, Log from the Sea of Cortez

 

"People don't care how much you know, until they know how much you care." - Theodore Roosevelt

 

"You can easily judge the character of others by how they treat those who they think can do nothing for them or to them." - Malcolm Forbes

 

"Let others lead small lives, but not you. Let others argue over small things, but not you. Let others cry over small hurts, but not you. Let others leave their future in someone else's hands, but not you." - Jim Rohn

 

"The best way to get the right answer on the internet is not to ask a question; it's to post the wrong answer." - Cunningham's Law







Thank you to Baja Bound Mexico Insurance Services for your long-term support of the BajaNomad.com Forums site.







Emergency Baja Contacts Include:

Desert Hawks; El Rosario-based ambulance transport; Emergency #: (616) 103-0262