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Barry A.
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Quote: Originally posted by Sweetwater  | | Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by David K | Wow, it is just in your guys' blood to be hateful and twisted, is it? We went to sit down restaurants of their choice! You act like you know me Ralph,
why is that? Oh, I am open with who I thought were my friends here... of course it is the few who never reveal themselves (no photos of their faces)
and hide behind a keyboard just waiting to dream up some hate should I have the nerve to post a negative about their loved politicians. I hate
McDonalds, by-the-way.
We worked 6-8 hours, they got $120/day plus a meal, all the ice water bottles they could drink, and couldn't wait to work another day with me. Is
really picking on me all you got left? Sorry, but I am for freedom... what America is supposed to be about. Not more government programs, more
government employees (except needed military/police/fire), higher taxes, and spending money on the religion of man-made climate change instead of the
REAL threats to America.
Please move along... I am done... |
$15/hr. Did you file 1099s on them? Did you pay their SS? How did you verify their status? E-verify?
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Well, that is actually why there are so many "illegals" in the USA. Many profitable businesses prefer not to dot their I's and cross their T's. As
always, demand for poor compliance with the law is met with supply of labor at many levels. It's something that the Trumpster has been guilty of by
his own admission as well as his bragging that he has bought influence. These are well documented in his statements. I continue to be plagued by the
fact that in 7 decades, he has no record of public service and refuses any personal examination of his health or finances but continues to demand
those from others. So here's something reflective of the fact that within hours of his meeting in Mexico, he was called a blatant LIAR. I'm not
surprised.
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Well, These comments are certainly a mixed bag!!! Yes, people & companies hire illegals because the existing law is not enforced. Many are
accusing Trump of being a liar, but so far I don't see it when close scrutiny is applied-----lots of speculation as to what Trump means by the things
he says------when actually he means exactly what he says when viewed in context. I admire lots of people, including some on this Board, that I do
not agree with on some things if they provide some quality that is admirable. Does not mean that I endorse or support them entirely. Trump is a
plain-spoken person, but some of you are appalled by that as the plain truth is scary to some--------I, and millions of others, are not "scared" or
"appalled" by Trumps ramblings, we find it refreshing. The Jihadist's (etc). say nice things about Trump (if that is even true?!?!?!) because they
WANT confrontation for their Holy War as it gives them martyrdom and a path to Heaven when they die, in their deranged minds.
Bottom line: Much of what scares and appalls some, is actually refreshing and exciting for other's--------finally we are getting some reality for a
change.
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Sweetwater
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Here's another view of reality, my only question is if the Hispanic community will show up and vote.
Everbody\'s preachin\' at me that we all wanna git to heaven, trouble is, nobody wants to die to git there.-BB King
Reality is what does not go away when you stop believing in it. -Philip K Dick
Nothing is worse than active ignorance. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe(1749-1832, German writer, artist and politician)
When choosing between two evils, I always like to try the one I\'ve never tried before. - Mae West
Experience is what keeps a man who makes the same mistake twice from admitting it the third time around.
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Barry A.
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I certainly hope they do!! And, of course I hope they vote Republican. If they decide not to do that, then they get to live with the consequences,
and I wish them luck with that. IMO, it won't be good for them, or any of us, long term.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Barry A. | | Quote: Originally posted by Sweetwater | | Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by David K | Wow, it is just in your guys' blood to be hateful and twisted, is it? We went to sit down restaurants of their choice! You act like you know me Ralph,
why is that? Oh, I am open with who I thought were my friends here... of course it is the few who never reveal themselves (no photos of their faces)
and hide behind a keyboard just waiting to dream up some hate should I have the nerve to post a negative about their loved politicians. I hate
McDonalds, by-the-way.
We worked 6-8 hours, they got $120/day plus a meal, all the ice water bottles they could drink, and couldn't wait to work another day with me. Is
really picking on me all you got left? Sorry, but I am for freedom... what America is supposed to be about. Not more government programs, more
government employees (except needed military/police/fire), higher taxes, and spending money on the religion of man-made climate change instead of the
REAL threats to America.
Please move along... I am done... |
$15/hr. Did you file 1099s on them? Did you pay their SS? How did you verify their status? E-verify?
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Well, that is actually why there are so many "illegals" in the USA. Many profitable businesses prefer not to dot their I's and cross their T's. As
always, demand for poor compliance with the law is met with supply of labor at many levels. It's something that the Trumpster has been guilty of by
his own admission as well as his bragging that he has bought influence. These are well documented in his statements. I continue to be plagued by the
fact that in 7 decades, he has no record of public service and refuses any personal examination of his health or finances but continues to demand
those from others. So here's something reflective of the fact that within hours of his meeting in Mexico, he was called a blatant LIAR. I'm not
surprised.
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Well, These comments are certainly a mixed bag!!! Yes, people & companies hire illegals because the existing law is not enforced. Many are
accusing Trump of being a liar, but so far I don't see it when close scrutiny is applied-----lots of speculation as to what Trump means by the things
he says------when actually he means exactly what he says when viewed in context. I admire lots of people, including some on this Board, that I do
not agree with on some things if they provide some quality that is admirable. Does not mean that I endorse or support them entirely. Trump is a
plain-spoken person, but some of you are appalled by that as the plain truth is scary to some--------I, and millions of others, are not "scared" or
"appalled" by Trumps ramblings, we find it refreshing. The Jihadist's (etc). say nice things about Trump (if that is even true?!?!?!) because they
WANT confrontation for their Holy War as it gives them martyrdom and a path to Heaven when they die, in their deranged minds.
Bottom line: Much of what scares and appalls some, is actually refreshing and exciting for other's--------finally we are getting some reality for a
change.
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Certainly Barry there is something to be said about taking a risk when it comes to business. I did it many times and won a few and lost a few...
Just not willing to do it on a country.
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Barry A.
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| Quote: Originally posted by SFandH | Since the California electoral college votes are predicted by all to go to Clinton, how California Nomads vote for prez doesn't make any difference.
Especially this election. CA Democrats voting for Trump wouldn't fill a bus.
Soooooo, proposition 64 is my motivator to vote.
Looking forward to vaping some hash oil, legally, finally. It's been a long time coming.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3Lc1wQYuMM
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Well, that explains A LOT.
Carry on. 
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And, you most likely are voting for Killary.... lol
The SAME boiling water that softens the potato hardens the egg. It's about what you are made of NOT the circumstance.
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Trump probably wont be coming to Baja any time soon:
https://translate.google.com.mx/translate?sl=es&tl=en&am...
"YOU CAN'T LITTER ALUMINUM"
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Not a real loss....
Don't believe everything you think....
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It would appear that the Liberal Press and Govt. establishments everywhere (?) are trying their best and will stop at nothing to block change that
they see as threatening. You reap what you sew as they will find out down the line------it ALWAYS happens eventually, and it is chaotic and so
counterproductive, and often destructive to almost everybody. Many intelligent people will never learn, even thought the history is there to see for
those that will look and pay attention. Socialism simply does not work with advanced humans, and never has, and yet that is where we are drifting too
with blinders in place.
I hope I am wrong.
Good luck with that.
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There really must be more options on the political spectrum than "conservative-socialist" . It is a shame that any political position is reduced to
this simplistically dichotomous reduction....creates such divisiveness... 
Don't believe everything you think....
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Barry A.
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| Quote: Originally posted by motoged | | There really must be more options on the political spectrum than "conservative-socialist" . It is a shame that any political position is reduced to
this simplistically dichotomous reduction....creates such divisiveness...
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Agree on the "divisiveness", Moto, but having had KISS (keep it simple stupid) pounded into my head in Law Enforcement Training ALL my life, it is
hard to agree that "simplistic" is worse than complexity when complexity almost always leads to little or no action on problems.
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The problem I see with initiatives such as the trump Non Grata grandstanding vote, is the governments are whipping their people into a frenzy, and the
chance of it getting out of hand in Mexico is dangerous for expats.
"YOU CAN'T LITTER ALUMINUM"
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Barry A.
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An interesting, alarming, and excellent point, Dennis, and one I did not think of.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Barry A. | ....
Agree on the "divisiveness", Moto, but having had KISS (keep it simple stupid) pounded into my head in Law Enforcement Training ALL my life, it is
hard to agree that "simplistic" is worse than complexity when complexity almost always leads to little or no action on problems.
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Barry,
The KISS principle is not always that simple....reactive solutions, while appearing to be the best solution, may not be be as effective as a
responsive solutions that ameliorate the underlying issues.
My experience often is that effective change results from creating solutions that address the complexities....and in hindsight, I have seen the
process as being "simple"....after untangling the problematic issues.
Simple is good....but not always the best framework.
Don't believe everything you think....
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Barry A.
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| Quote: Originally posted by motoged | | Quote: Originally posted by Barry A. | ....
Agree on the "divisiveness", Moto, but having had KISS (keep it simple stupid) pounded into my head in Law Enforcement Training ALL my life, it is
hard to agree that "simplistic" is worse than complexity when complexity almost always leads to little or no action on problems.
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Barry,
The KISS principle is not always that simple....reactive solutions, while appearing to be the best solution, may not be be as effective as a
responsive solutions that ameliorate the underlying issues.
My experience often is that effective change results from creating solutions that address the complexities....and in hindsight, I have seen the
process as being "simple"....after untangling the problematic issues.
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I respect your views, and I believe "Simple" IS good, especially when complex stymies any solutions--------Comprehensive Immigration comes to
mind------no progress of any significance for decades, and the illegals continue to flood in for a variety of reasons, and ALL Presidents before the
present one have said something needs to be done, and NOW (but nobody does much of anything)-------I think it is time for SIMPLE!!!! Lets get on
with it!!!
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| Quote: Originally posted by Barry A. | Many intelligent people will never learn, even thought the history is there to see for those that will look and pay attention. Socialism simply
does not work with advanced humans, and never has, and yet that is where we are drifting too with blinders in place.
I hope I am wrong.
Good luck with that.
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Are you referring to communist style socialism? Everybody is pretty on board that it didn't work particularly well. If you are referring to modern
socialism or social democracy you might take a second look at Germany, Ireland, Japan, Netherlands, Belgium, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Canada, and
others who enjoy a good quality of life. Oh, and let's not forget our own Socialism in the US--Medicare--I tell you I don't know how many
conservatives don't want the government involved in their lives and think anything the government does is bass-ackwards and would never submit to a
national healthcare program but be damned sure they're accepting medicare--a national health care program-- to pay for their old age issues.
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Barry A.
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Mexicon--------I was perfectly happy with my Blue Cross/Blue Shield healthcare, but when I turned 65 (I think) they did not give me any
choice--------I HAD to join Medicare but my BC/BS still costs me roughly the same as before. I much prefer choices!! So far I am happy with
Medicare medically-speaking, but it sure does not save me any money----in fact I am paying considerably more than before (like about $200 per month
more) The real problem, however, is that I hear that Medicare as it is now will go broke down the line------wow, that is just GREAT----------then
what do we do?
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Don't know, my mom Medicare plus supplemental and was only paying 150 a month, pretty good deal. Medicare is still funded but yes the tax rate or
something else will have to rise as the boomers top weight the system...brave new world as we are living longer but not necessarily having more
productive years--ie raising the retirement age to make SS more solvent.
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 |
Well, that was a really silly interview. The interviewee was the union boss for border patrol agents.
I am mystified why public sector employees have a union,... I believe zero spewed by public sector union bosses.
Barry, you are really showing senility posting interviews with public sector union bosses as if the opinion have any meaning other than fleecing the
public.
Why should government employees have any say in lobbying elected reps???? Huh? They are obviously self-interested and should not be in the room.
Overly generous public sector pensions are bad for the USA. flock the public sector unions! |
Such a bunch of crap.
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